Damn..... how true is this? Could they possibly debut it during the AV Fair?? Does Yammy do the AV Fair, any sifus know??
Yamaha AVR Discussion Thread
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May 4 2009, 07:36 PM
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Called Yamaha office to enquire on the expected arrival of the V-X65 AVR series (i am interested in the entry level V465 with TrueHD and DTS-MA).Was told that these are not Asian models (???)
Damn..... how true is this? Could they possibly debut it during the AV Fair?? Does Yammy do the AV Fair, any sifus know?? |
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May 5 2009, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ May 4 2009, 10:22 PM) LOL.... I bet the staff is either ignorant or just lack of training My thoughts exactly.... i called them as told them i am asking about the availability of their AVR VX65 series.... and the voice on the other side went "errr.... whats AVR??"..... i was unsure if i was tickled or pissed at that....It will be here by end May or early June. Was passed to another person, a Mr Lim, who then told me that its prolly not an Asian version, and ended up saying "donno"... I hang up laughing my ass off..... Thnx for the heads-up, guess i could wait for another month to audition the V465... Pssst... any idea how much is a amateur / beginner PSB 5.1 speaker set cost? What is the model and whr can i audit them? Wanna couple it with the Yammy V465.... pls help!! This post has been edited by Poadster: May 5 2009, 03:08 PM |
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May 29 2009, 05:02 PM
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Yammy new V-X65 series is now available in Desa, prices are:-
V365 - RM1490 (entry level 5.1 channel with 4 HDMI) V465 - RM1990 (entry level 5.1 channel with DD TrueHD and DTS-MA, 4 HDMI, YPAO) V565 - RM2390 (entry level 5.1 channel with DD TrueHD and DTS-MA, 4 HDMI upscaling 1080p, YPAO) V665 - RM2890 (mid level 7.1 channel with DD TrueHD and DTS-MA, 4 HDMI upscaling 1080p, YPAO) For the specs, go check Yammy's site. The AVRs are in sweet black, but prices are high as they are new models. Desa will feature them in AV Fest in July, but as they have stock now, they are selling them to the early adopters. |
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May 29 2009, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ May 29 2009, 05:19 PM) WTF? The 663 has 2 HDMI only, while 665 has 4..... the rest is too technical for me. At RM2890, it became mid level due to price... At Desa, the Onkyo SR606 is going for RM2300 now, in black and silver. Pioneer 1018 is at RM2700 now, both seems to be better spec-ed than the V665. Anyone can get ur paws on 663 at RM1599 at Desa, go for it. But according to my sources, the 663 have been out of stock in Desa since 1 month ago and last selling price was RM1699, so mayb someone has better info than me. This post has been edited by Poadster: May 29 2009, 05:37 PM |
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Jun 2 2009, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(benjaminn78 @ May 31 2009, 11:08 AM) The ones i saw in Desa LYP is all black, mayb thats the reason the prices are more expensive due to it being in black??Added on June 2, 2009, 2:38 pm QUOTE(mpyw @ Jun 1 2009, 04:38 PM) if they r selling at those prices...it's a rip off and they're plying the Denon/Onkyo way.... Bros, the prices i got was from the sales guy, not negotiated prices.for RM2,890....I'll op for Denon 1909 or marantz SR5003 which is ard RM2k+ now and can ask Yammy chiack sai..... Yammy is prolly trying positioning the 665 against the Pioneer VSX1018 and other competitor models like SR606 and others, which are priced arnd that. I still think its crazy of them to push the 665 to the next level price bracket, and even the 465 is position at the old 663 price level. So anyone else seen a 663 out there now??? Added on June 2, 2009, 2:40 pm QUOTE(htkaki @ Jun 2 2009, 01:15 AM) Sad but I agree with mpyw. An entry level AVR should not breach the RM2K mark. 665 is a total rip-off Their entry level is now the 465, with TrueHD and DTS-MA audio, at sub 2K ma.... am waiting for this price to drop in a few months before taking it home...This post has been edited by Poadster: Jun 2 2009, 02:40 PM |
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Jul 31 2009, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jul 31 2009, 09:49 AM) Just came back fr Yammy sales Bro, there was a box of Z11 tucked in a corner.... that would be the highest end of all.Apparently highest end i saw is 665, kinda disappointed. Price for 665 was like 2k. I didnt buy anything Speakers' discount was like 30% off. Last year the deal was much better |
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Jul 31 2009, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Jul 31 2009, 05:21 PM) Nothing higher than the 665. Opps correction, there was a Z11 but no special offer price on that unit... New units are 20% off the RRP with 12 months warranty, while opened units (displayed units with no connection, i checked the connectors) are at 30% off whith 6 months warranty. No easy payment or interest free schemes whatsoever. Was there early at 1030am, was targeting the 465 to replace my Pioneer VSX518. I dont need 1080p upscale but simply passthru, but love to have the HD audio options. Dont need 7.1 output as i have only a 5.1 speaker set, but the 465 has pre-out for the back surround, so i can still drive that with relatively cheap power amp if i choose to go 7.1 later. Was hesitant to get the Titanium Silver open unit at first (priced RM1393) but Grace quickly showed me the Black Noir open unit. Snapped it up and will set it up later tonite. Cant wait.... Added on July 31, 2009, 6:30 pm QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jul 31 2009, 06:23 PM) I asked the lady when i went this morning @ 9+am. Nope, it was full priced. I heard it was RM30Kish, while the Z7 is RM20Kish.Btw Z11 is way out of my budget. Was that Z11 on sales too? Added on July 31, 2009, 6:33 pm QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Jul 31 2009, 02:34 PM) U mean for the 665? New unit is less 20% = 1912, open unit is less 30% = 1673. Good luck in trying to find the open unit now. When i left there at 11, there were 2 open units (or 1 new and 1 open, not sure). This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 31 2009, 06:33 PM |
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Jul 31 2009, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(Exarkun @ Jul 31 2009, 06:54 PM) The Rm1673 price is for the open unit of 565 not 665. The 665 open unit was around RM2042 or something. Strange, i dont recall any other persons viewing the AVR when i was watching them. Too bad i missed you or else we could have said hi.... hahahahWhen I left there at around 1045am, only one 665 open unit (bought by wkang few minutes later), no more 565 (cause I bought the only open unit for RM1673), and two 465 (open unit) and one 365 (open unit). The rest you see there are new ones with 20% off. I bought the opened Black 465 (the only one), did u see any black opened 465 when u were there? This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 31 2009, 07:19 PM |
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Jul 31 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(versey @ Jul 31 2009, 07:21 PM) Yes, there were quite a few models there, mostly 30% off.For less than RM700 (RM693 i think) there is one down firing sub (cant recall the model, there was an uncle looking for down firing sub under 700, the sales guy showed him this.). I think there is a 215 model there too. Sorry, had no interest in subs, so cant be exact on the model. |
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Jul 31 2009, 09:56 PM
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Aug 2 2009, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(Exarkun @ Jul 31 2009, 10:41 PM) I saw a guy in striped t-shirt looking at the amps when i was there. When i left carrying my 565 i saw him talking on the phone outside the building. Was that you or was that wkang? That would be me, i was in a beige T-Shirt with black strips on the arms and collar.... was busy on the phone that i missed a fellow yammy owner carrying a new AVR. Would have spoken to you if i had noticed you carrying the AVR....Mayb next time, or any future TT session.... Added on August 2, 2009, 2:59 am QUOTE(tbcheese @ Aug 1 2009, 08:20 PM) Hi there, anyone here got any experience pairing the Yamaha V465 with the PSB Alpha B1 and C1 speakers? You can manually set it up the 465 to determine that the Sub and the surrounds as "None", thus making it a 3.0 system driver. I dont think the auto setup YPAO works without the other 2.1, but you can try.I'm looking to set up a 3.0 system first and then add a subwoofer later if necessary. Maybe go surround if I manage to get rid of some of the clutter at home. In the meantime I'm shackled by budget constraints. =( Appreciate any advice from all of you. Thanks. Bummer I go around helping wkang survey and ended up joining the HT bandwagon myself. I dont quite trust the YPAO, as the sound is not as to my liking. Had to manually tweak all the speaker settings to get them right. But setup was easy and with all 4 inputs and output is via HDMI, the rear cluster is really lessened now. Also, i would put priorities on the Subs first, effectively building a 2.1 system as opposed to a 3.0. Notice most other systems are built 2.1 instead of 3.0, as the Subs will vastly improve the movie and music experience while the LR speakers can share the load of the Center. But this is my preference. Did u get the 465 yet? This post has been edited by Poadster: Aug 2 2009, 03:01 AM |
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Aug 2 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(tbcheese @ Aug 2 2009, 11:14 AM) Ahh neodynium magnet speakers. I'm always in awe of the capability of the tiny speakers. Although my last experience with such speakers were a little bit disappointing. My friend bought a set of Altec Lansing PC speakers which used neodynium magnets. Looked nice and sleek and put out some good sounds too but ultimately relied too much on the subwoofer for the low and even mid-range. Paired with a good Sub it should be good. Just a matter of personal preference. Congrats on completing your system (for the time being until the itch sets in again Good buy, did u get the open or new unit? Am loving the 465 after manually tweaking the unit to my liking, now need to see if the sound improves after the burn in period.I got the 465 already at Yamaha yesterday I was weighing between 2.1 and 3.0 but ultimately went with 3.0 as i figured the Center would be cheaper than the Sub. It's an unplanned purchase so gotta be careful with the spending. It doesn't help that my sudden purchase has necessitated the purchase of a new TV shelf hehehe. I'll reconsider about the 2.1 since you're the 2nd guy to recommend me this. Got any suggestions for a budget of 1.2-1.5k? I know it's a bit tight but what can I do It may be too late for this advice, but there were Yammy subs at the clearance. There was a "down-firing" sub at sub 800 (pun intended... haha) and the 215 model was sub 600. Add that to you 3.0 and you get yrself a sweet 3.1, now all you need are the back speakers. Hmmm... at 1.2 - 1.5, you could go the Yammy sub (at 800) and enuff left over to get the back speakers, and if u budget it correctly, the new TV shelf (not cabinet or tv rack, but shelf)... Good luck.. |
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Aug 4 2009, 12:28 AM
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Aug 28 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Aug 27 2009, 10:22 PM) It shld be in the range of RM1800 ish.....Try Desa HT at Low Yat or Kepong..... they usually have the best prices..... for Yammy... Added on August 28, 2009, 3:28 pm QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Aug 28 2009, 05:56 AM) Sorry.This question should be asked earlier. Is it worth upgrading fr my current amp(1600) to a new one considering it cant do 1080p and hdmi 1.3. Right now bd60 is doing all the internal decoding of the audio and video. My tv is FullHD panel. Dude, that is the million dollar question, and only can be answered by yrself.Thanks. There are a few considerations (mostly mine) for u to decide. 1. Are you happy that you are not getting the Lossless audio that the BD60 is able to bitstream out? Are you contended with your current audio output? 2. Are you happy with the amount of cables running at the back (BD60 HMDI -> TV, AVR CoAx ->, etc), meaning much cables running all over the back? Or u prefer all HD (audio and video) to stream via HMDI -> AVR -> TV, making it much cleaner.? 3. Are u happy with yr current setup? Or you upgrade coz u wanna and can afford it? Then decide if its a step you wanna make. For me, I wanted to eliminate the cable clusters as my WDTV, PS3, Xbox360 and DVD are via HDMI/component -> LCD for 1080p, while the audio via coax and digital cables to AVR. Add to that Wii, Astro and aerial coax, the cables are all over the place (even if they are hidden using casing) and you have shielding noise problem if you stick too much cables with each other. With a new HDMI 4 in /1 out AVR (V465), its solves my greatest concern. So what are yours?? This post has been edited by Poadster: Aug 28 2009, 03:28 PM |
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Aug 28 2009, 06:18 PM
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Aug 28 2009, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(maja_5365 @ Aug 28 2009, 07:17 PM) Yup u were right i should not have asked the question as it can be answered by myself. I am merely suggesting the questions, as the decision are all yours to make.Anyway I'm getting lossless audio (MPCM) thru bd60 and eliminate all the cable clusters by connecting bd60 ->yammy 1600->fulhd lcd. It sounded much better than the normal DD and DTS that I used to hear. But now I am in blu ray world, so is there a lot of different between hdmi 1.1 and 1.3 and also 1080i and 1080p? If it is then I might consider to upgrade. Thanks. Are you sending the MPCM via HDMI to the AVR?? So the cable mgmt thing may not be an issue to you, sorry as i didnt know yr setup. There are detail differences from 1080i to 1080p, but its noticeable. Simple test for yr eyes. Play a BD scene using yr current setup, as yr AVR will output it in 1080i (am i right?). Then set the BD60 HDMI cable directly to yr LCD (instead of yr AVR), and replay the same scene. As long as yr BD outputs at 1080p and yr LCD displays 1080p, then see if you can notice the difference in details when displayed in 1080p (u did say yr LCD is FUllHD ya??) Then decide of buying a RM3K++ amp is worthy the upgrade to 1080p visuals (and the boasting right to show TrueHD or DTSMA words on yr 1900).... Good luck. |
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Sep 3 2009, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(pennykia @ Sep 3 2009, 01:08 AM) New in unopened box with 12 mths warranty: 20% off RRP arnd 1590ish.Opened display unit with 6 mths warranty (not used): 30% off arnd 1380ish. There were stocks of the black ones.... nice.... i got mine there, ran there on the 1st day at 10am and there were a few buyers oredi.... Watch for it next year?? Added on September 3, 2009, 1:33 am QUOTE(dynamike @ Sep 2 2009, 02:14 PM) Desa Home Theatre sd. bhd. is selling the items, Read their ad VERY CAREFULLY, it states "FROM" with a few models listed.1.)Komplek Desa, Jln Kepong Batu 8 1/2, 52100 Kepong, Wilayah Persekutuan 03-6275 6511 2.)Ground Floor, Kompleks Desa, Jln Kepong Batu 8 1/2, 52100 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan 03-6274 7571 they dont have any online website,u can call them or buy the star newspaper,every friday,u should see their advertisement. Best way to find out price is to walk in and haggle. Desa Kepong usually offers the best prices amongst the Desas. I was there when they lifted the veil on the new Vx65 series (2 weeks before the official launch in MY), and posted the prices back then, they were selling them at actual RRP.... How prices have fallen.... with a boost from Yammy themselves during their clearance warehouse sales. Was surprised to see the new V365, V465 and V565 selling at 20% and 30% off. This post has been edited by Poadster: Sep 3 2009, 01:33 AM |
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