no hard feelings ok
for me i only budget in the range of RX-V1900, for i feel that its good enough, for i only get to play at late nights and in the hall( no sound Room ) on the contary if i really want i and COULD, would have gone for the likes of Z7, Z11, ADP 1, LX82,91
coming back to your case, what i meant is, if you have more budget, if not maybe can save more to go for the next upper level, that is 665 to 865 (if its available, for my case intially i aim for 1909, then see see, no phono, i waited a while for the 2809,that time LX series no stock then later i got 3900 at RX-V1900 price, really feel its worth the Extra 2k for
- better Video scaling anchor bay chip( Lexicon 1st BD player also uses this chip which cost US3,900.00)
- Neworking capabilities
- Better components and ccts
- software upgrade, through LAN or USB
- support front Presence Speaker for 3D sound
- and a lot of other great stuff
PS... 665 is still a very good AVR that stands out within the price category
Hey.. no offence taken.. Im just so new to this stuff I need extra time to digest it. Ive been setting my mind on 665 for some time cuz thats the only AVR I can afford.
you have been asking for prices since 4-5 months ago

you actually buying or just playing a fool? i've never seen
fool survey this long
Isnt it abit harsh so say something like tat? Not all ppl have the moolah to grab what they want. I dont think its foolish to be precise. If ur talking about fool, most probably Im the biggest fool of all, cuz Ive been eyeing this AVR's stuffs for a long long time. Anyway no hard feelings yeah..