663 is RM1800. 863 about RM2800 (quite a waste of 1k to buy if u don't need the upscaler and power difference from 663 not that much). Add another 1k at RM3800 u can get RX-V1800. Now this baby is worth the price. Syiiook!
Too bad I'm not elite enuf to own one

hello, i wanna ask, looking for a av amp.

now, im eyeing on the onkyo 606, at 2999, for the moment. so which model of yamaha is in level with the onkyo 606 ?

Yes, you can use the existing 5 speakers, later on when you have more budget you can upgrade to higher range speakers. On the 663 you MUST set it as 6 ohm. Any speakers lower than 4 ohm will give the receiver a hard time, and may overheat.

For the sub, you'll need a separate amp, as most AV receivers only has pre-out (sending out the signal non-amplified). My advice is to get a new active subwoofer.

You'll always get to hear the 5.1 audio codecs, and with 663 even the HD lossless tracks, for this part, it's the receiver that's important. But to get the best sound, you'll need good speakers.

Not sure about 663, but my 1800 can upscale analogue sources (S-video/RCA, not digital sources like HDMI) to up to 1080p. But I can only see little improvements, because Astro quality sucks to begin with. Like people always say, rubbish in rubbish out.

I don't have any experience with the Pioneer receiver though.

maybe can give yammy a chance for audition. since the price per performance is about the same, infact cheaper in yammy, but onkyo builts looks more solid.

605 selling for around 2.8k in M'sia
S'pore will be a lot cheaper

looks like onkyo is a little expensive. seems like i got to look at yamaha .

looks like onkyo is a little expensive. seems like i got to look at yamaha .

All AVR except even Yammy (a lil') are overpriced in Malaysia....that's why HT market very small....