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Discussion A decent idea, especially for them EPL chairmen, Copypasta-ed from Football 365's mailbox
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TSmadmoz
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 Feb 16 2008, 11:47 AM, updated 18y ago
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QUOTE Remembering When Football Was Good...
When the Premier League came into force in '92 the prime fear for clubs not involved was obviously financial. This has come to pass, with four teams in the third tier in administration at present, let alone those who have already succumbed. With teams such as Wrexham in dire need of support, I have always thought it would serve to credit the Premier League if some kind of percentage of revenue from each club is dispersed amongst the have nots of English football.
I know it's not their job as such but surely a modicum of decency would dictate that teams perishing with debts that barely total seven figures could look to the more illustrious or even in some cases just plain richer clubs for help? Should another breakaway league be implemented then all that will happen is more teams will end up with their neck in a noose and the top 10 thinking 'we're alright Jack'.
I was watching a video of the WC '90, the last great World Cup, the final aside, and my friends and I were talking about how great football used to be in the 80's (I know it's more romanticised but still) - £5 on the turnstiles for a Park Lane ticket and a game that whilst on the cusp of selling its soul was still very much a people's game. It saddens me that I can legitimately think football is so far gone now, it'll take a fans movement of immensity to get it even halfway back.
Daniel Mallerman Instead of the rich thinking of more ways to make themselves even richer, why not help out clubs in the lower divisions? The EPL cannot survive on its own without the lower leagues. For instance, without the Championship there would be no relegation  What fun would that be? This post has been edited by madmoz: Feb 16 2008, 11:53 AM |
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Duke Red
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Feb 16 2008, 05:59 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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You know as well as I that football clubs are being run like a business these days with tycoons from all around the world taking notice of it's popularity. You have to be ruthless in business and you do step on toes. What interest would it serve for one business man to help another and create competition for himself then?
Novel idea, let's see if anything eventuates.
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TSmadmoz
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Feb 16 2008, 09:17 PM
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Does the EPL pay some sort of royalty to the FA? If they do, I suppose this is already a way of 'supporting' the lower leagues?
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Duke Red
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Feb 17 2008, 10:55 AM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 16 2008, 09:17 PM) Does the EPL pay some sort of royalty to the FA? If they do, I suppose this is already a way of 'supporting' the lower leagues? There is another point to consider and it was highlighted in the papers not too long ago; compensation to clubs when players who are on international duty get injured. Clubs are reluctant to release players for international duty especially when they are carrying an injury of sorts. One reason is of course that club sides aren't concerned with the nation side, and another reason is they don't receive sufficient compensation if a player gets injured especially for a lengthy period. |
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kobe8byrant
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Feb 17 2008, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 16 2008, 09:17 PM) Does the EPL pay some sort of royalty to the FA? If they do, I suppose this is already a way of 'supporting' the lower leagues? I am sorry but asking EPL clubs to perform charity? That rarely/never happens. The best that clubs can do is donate the gate receipts of the FA/League Cup games to other clubs. Besides money is still TRICKLING down to the lower leagues. Relegated clubs from the EPL are given a sum of money and when they are in the Championship, it'll be spent on players again.  |
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StarGhazzer
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Feb 17 2008, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Feb 17 2008, 11:02 AM) I am sorry but asking EPL clubs to perform charity? That rarely/never happens.  Back to the topic. In a realistic world, there's no corporation that shares their advantage with their competitors. So on what basis should "rich" teams support smaller teams financially? I can see mutual cooperation in technical terms e.g. sharing training facilities, grooming youths, or even holding particular matches where the lesser team will get more ticket/TV revenues; however sharing out the profits just ain't going to work here. Maybe it's time team owners learn from the past mistakes such as Leeds liquidation. Outrageous spending on players whose price tag severely outweighs their capabilities, and hence increasing the financial burden should always be avoided. You can't bite more than you can chew, can you? It's a sad fact that football has metamorphosed from a sport into an industry tainted with affluence where team with the most financial muscle wins the tug-of-war. But what can we expect? ALL kinds of sports that get world-wide fame and publicity requires mountains of money as the operating costs snowballs without stopping, the best example being Formula 1. This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Feb 17 2008, 07:35 PM |
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kobe8byrant
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Feb 17 2008, 07:36 PM
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EPL clubs are already farming out players to these lower league teams. I mean that is if the argument is regarding the alleged decrease in quality in Lower League football. Luke Steele, was a product from United and he's improving the quality of the lower leagues, among the many players who left Academies to join lower league teams.
Regarding bankrupt clubs, you got to be kidding. You fail at business and you want your rival to bring you back up and running? Try asking United to donate money to Leeds!
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Duke Red
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Feb 17 2008, 10:40 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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It's risky business and when a club like Leeds spend more than they have, it's called an investment. Sometimes it goes bad. Chicken and egg story but in the end, you need to put in money to make more money.
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m o m o
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Mar 18 2008, 01:42 PM
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Well, what makes them think clubs in the lower and nether regions will use the money soundly?
Look at Gretna...a total shamble...
Relegated teams from BPL have been receiving parachute money...
From a business point of view, football is a business...business-wise, too bad for the others...
What can be done is to help in terms of coaching and facilities...and making sure the money is 100% spent there and not having 5% going to the agents, 5% going to club chairmen etc...
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verx
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Mar 18 2008, 02:52 PM
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Soshified Madridista
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 17 2008, 10:40 PM) It's risky business and when a club like Leeds spend more than they have, it's called an investment. Sometimes it goes bad. Chicken and egg story but in the end, you need to put in money to make more money. The way Leeds did it, it wasn't an investment, it was a gamble. Spending huge sums of borrowed money on players and relying on CL qualification to be able to cover it is pure stupidity. Spending the same amount on a bigger stadium to generate more revenue in the long term is what one would call an investment. This post has been edited by verx: Mar 18 2008, 02:54 PM |
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Duke Red
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Mar 18 2008, 02:55 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(verx @ Mar 18 2008, 02:52 PM) The way Leeds did it, it wasn't an investment, it was a gamble. Spending huge sums of borrowed money on players and relying on CL qualification to be able to cover it is pure stupidity. Spending the same amount on a bigger stadium to generate more revenue in the long term is what one would call an investment. Can't quite remember the sequence of events but didn't Leeds qualify for the semi-finals of the Champions League? Read Fowler's book and they were in trouble even then. The following season was however a disaster. |
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verx
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Mar 18 2008, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 18 2008, 02:55 PM) Can't quite remember the sequence of events but didn't Leeds qualify for the semi-finals of the Champions League? Read Fowler's book and they were in trouble even then. The following season was however a disaster. I'm sure if they had continued to qualify for CL they would have survived. Probably just. But once they failed...it all went downhill from there. |
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