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TSLodewijk
post Feb 15 2008, 01:19 PM, updated 18y ago

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Processor E8400 FPO/Batch Q746A474, Packing Date : 01/07/2008
MB Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 F6i BIOS
VGA Winfast GeForce 8800GTS 512 MB
Memory Team Xtreem DDR2-800 CL3 2 GB Kit
PSU Gigabyte ODIN Pro 1200 Watt
Cooled by Thermalright Ultra Xtreme 120 + Thermaltake 12 cm Fan

Remember, this is all on air cooling biggrin.gif

Dual Prime @ 4.2 GHz 1.424 volt real 1.44 in BIOS

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Dual PI 32M @ 4.5 GHz 1.504v real 1.520v in BIOS

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3DMark 2006 @ 4.5 GHz

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Super PI 8M @ 4.6 GHz 1.545v real 1.568v in BIOS

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Suicide Shot @ 4.77 GHz @ 1.58 volt

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post Feb 15 2008, 01:25 PM

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hmm a lot of vcore leh..

and stability on ram only??
proc leh??

got two ppl with the same batch..


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TSLodewijk
post Feb 15 2008, 01:32 PM

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Can you see my SS with Orthos ??? that's CPU stability my friend
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lol same batch + same pack date smore laugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Feb 15 2008, 01:32 PM)
Can you see my SS with Orthos ??? that's CPU stability my friend
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SS=System Stability??

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The "In-place large FFTs" test uses relatively large FFTs which cannot fit into the CPU cache so this test accesses main memory a lot. It only accesses a relatively small amount of main memory because it runs the FFTs in-place so it accesses the same RAM over and over.


but oklarr seems ure nb is stable which is actually the challenge for e8400. not really the vcore..

but definitely ure proc is way too much vcore me thinks base on the result of the same batch.

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post Feb 15 2008, 01:42 PM

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The vcore for 4.2 is rather high,should go 4.4 like that on this batch and the vcore.
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post Feb 15 2008, 01:45 PM

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hmm different vid??
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post Feb 15 2008, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Feb 15 2008, 12:42 PM)
The vcore for 4.2 is rather high,should go 4.4 like that on this batch and the vcore.
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hmm maybe different mobo... will try again with Mars biggrin.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Feb 15 2008, 01:47 PM)
hmm maybe different mobo... will try again with Mars biggrin.gif
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yeah cause i have that batch.. friends one
and ezoinics also has it..

my bet.. ure gtl is way off.. hence ure force clocking the vcore.

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post Feb 15 2008, 03:44 PM

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Nice results TS.
But it seems like the vcore is a lil bit on the high side right? hmm.gif

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post Feb 15 2008, 03:59 PM

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ok guys. behave yourself. cleaning up thread now.
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post Feb 15 2008, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 15 2008, 03:44 PM)
Nice results TS.
But it seems like the vcore is a lil bit on the high side right? hmm.gif
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thats cause i suspect his gtl is high.. so via brute force...

found that sometimes brute force more stable though..

hm ts noticed something about ure results.. interesting.. so thats how u guys do it..
will try in a minute..
nice proc score.. on 3dmark..way higher than me maximus by 20 points..
wonder was it the rams or tweaking..


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post Feb 15 2008, 07:37 PM

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Nice E8400 and looks like most people should be happy doing 4.2Ghz stable for daily run.

Btw, I see E8500 on pricelists already biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 15 2008, 08:37 PM)
Nice E8400 and looks like most people should be happy doing 4.2Ghz stable for daily run.

Btw, I see E8500 on pricelists already biggrin.gif
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almost Rm1k to get extra 0.16Ghz and 0.5 multiplier sad.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM

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1.42V aint that high i think
its still acceptable & with decent(no need those really hi-performance) HSf, temp should be just fine smile.gif

ps: wolfie really make me itchy.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM)
1.42V aint that high i think
its still acceptable & with decent(no need those really hi-performance) HSf, temp should be just fine smile.gif

ps: wolfie really make me itchy.. sad.gif
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1.42v for that batch at 4.2 is high bro..
caus u need only 1.368v for 4.25


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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM)
1.42V aint that high i think
its still acceptable & with decent(no need those really hi-performance) HSf, temp should be just fine smile.gif

ps: wolfie really make me itchy.. sad.gif
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Yes, 1.42V is decent and is what reported by many other users as well (around that voltage range) smile.gif
We should go by facts, not the assumption of Super PI completion = stability right? rolleyes.gif

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^ ahh ic icc
didnt know coz never have wolfie.. will be hoping to get near future, but mostly OEM or ES version.. wanna get cheaper 1 as i prefer quaddy more tongue.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 15 2008, 09:27 PM)
Yes, 1.42V is decent and is what reported by many other users as well (around that voltage range) smile.gif
We should go by facts, not the assumption of Super PI completion = stability right? rolleyes.gif
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thats ive been telling u..
their bus termination voltage is way off

heck i can even demo for u but whats the point...in the end will be targeted as bragging etc.. sishh..

that webby edgeofstability.com is really good
or u can try this.. it was done by XS legend awhile back on the 975bx
for c2d no point.. but for quaddies and wolfdale there is..


first few ideas of gtl by FCG
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=94

and to understand VTT..

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=94

wth is FSB termination voltage aka vtt aka HT-Link voltage
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source -> line -> component -> short line -> termination

the "lines" in this case are signal traces. works a lot like a SCSI bus. high speed switching operations can cause reflections on the line (in essence, this is resonant noise caused from high-speed switching on the lines as the memory controller gates on and off to place data on the bus, nothing more than rising and falling voltages). clearly enough, the faster the signal switches (higher frequency memory) the more noise.

termination resistors, used in passive termination environments, are exactly matched to the target frequency for operation based largely on trace length, ESR (equivalent series resistance) and the over capactive/inductive nature of the circuit, as well as some other things well out of the scope of this post. problem is that this is often matched for a specific frequency...which as we know is not so cool for overclockers. enter the active termination system. this actually uses a voltage bias to set final line resistance value so that the user can tune for better operation when overclocking.

this method of tuning is largely trial and error as you have no way of know the specification of the circuit or have any idea of the calculations need to find the "perfect" value. so anway, the answer is, strangely enough, whatever works best.

hope this helps.

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpo...741&postcount=7

PS.. for some.. just because they cant achieve it they assume the rest cannot..and worst still they take the multitude as a reference which makes things worst..and worst still after u convince them.. the idiot will think its because of the batch or vid..DA

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Hm.. that's only one hour. I've seen OCs that ran fine over one hour but failed at 8 hours. I think if you really want to say "stable" you should run that thing for 8 hours. What I do is I run orthos and ATITool's find artifact. Then I stop the cube from spinning. That seems to really raise the temperature for some reason.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 15 2008, 10:15 PM)
Hm.. that's only one hour. I've seen OCs that ran fine over one hour but failed at 8 hours. I think if you really want to say "stable" you should run that thing for 8 hours. What I do is I run orthos and ATITool's find artifact. Then  I stop the cube from spinning. That seems to really raise the temperature for some reason.
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hmm in ati tools
if u do the find mem and find core clock
they call it heat up phase..

even the ati cc overdrive does that..

stability varies to everybody...

some still argue on priority
when the writer of prime95 has already said this

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"The operating system does an excellent job of giving all spare CPU cycles to the program. The only thing that raising the priority will do is make your other jobs less responsive. For example, lets say during the next minute your spreadsheet needs 10 seconds to recalculate. If your spreadsheet is running at a higher priority, then it will take 10 elapsed seconds to display its results. Prime95 will then get the remaining 50 seconds of the minute. If they run at equal priority, then the spreadsheet will get 10 of the next 20 elapsed seconds before it displays its results. Prime95 also gets 10 of the first 20 seconds as well as the remaining 40 seconds. In both cases prime95 got 50 CPU seconds, but in the first case you saw your spreadsheet results faster.
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http://www.mersenne.org/faq.htm#faster

is small fft stable.. no idea.. is there a difference in running every 1 minute vs 15 minutes on the fft and would that reflect real world performance.. no..

so each of the test itself was a debate..

hence some joes just standardize it for posting purposes..
and some like to argue based on nothing..

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Not every motherboard lets you adjust GTL, VTT, etc.
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post Feb 16 2008, 09:33 PM

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WoW! 4.7Ghz rclxub.gif very high n good oc results.gonna try it on mine now brows.gif

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notworthy.gif TS,good result..
drool ady with this toY
anyway any result that reach 5Ghz?
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Above is my E8400 is it the same batch? Sorry for the noob question.
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The batch number can be found on the CPU or the label beside the box.
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Ah thx sorry for not knowing.
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Feb 21 2008, 12:07 AM)
Ah thx sorry for not knowing.
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Feb 20 2008, 11:58 PM)
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Above is my E8400 is it the same batch? Sorry for the noob question.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 21 2008, 04:41 PM)
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cstk1, your E8400 is which batch?
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would the e8400 be bottlenecked if i use abit ip35-e?and whats the dffrence btween ip35-e and ip35-pro? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 22 2008, 06:52 PM)
would the e8400 be bottlenecked if i use abit ip35-e?and whats the dffrence btween ip35-e and ip35-pro? hmm.gif
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It works fine on the IP35-E or IP35-PRO. The difference between these 2 includes RAID capability, better cooling, more SATA ports, etc. You can read them from the reviews available all over the Internet smile.gif
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thanks..but now im in dilemma..
abit ip35-e or ggbyte p35-ds3 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 23 2008, 11:21 AM)
thanks..but now im in dilemma..
abit ip35-e or ggbyte p35-ds3 hmm.gif
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What CPU are you intending to use with?

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