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post Feb 14 2008, 10:07 AM, updated 18y ago

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http://www.mymym.com/en/news/12312.html

those azholes just cant take it losin to our nation team cos were all better yo. vmad.gif


Added on February 14, 2008, 10:10 amwe need more people there to pressure them admins so they bring snake and anyone whose involve down.

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post Feb 14 2008, 10:47 AM

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lol the mym admin is well known for bias against asian team

disqualified china for having oversea player when almost all other nations do have other players that stay at different countries while playing the game (best example Merlini having Taiwanese citizenship but staying in America) they never define how can a person represent the Country ? having citizenship and staying at the country or staying at the country ?

and another incident is Indonesia was given loss for being late 1 hour to Kazakthan ( oh btw kazasthan have 2 players playing in Russia oh weeee not banned? wonder why china is banned ) Indonesia was late by 1 hour because they were having SKOTH match which was suppose to be the day before but they had to reschedule because Indonesia was having flood and some of their members were trapped in the flood

notice how strict they are against Asian teams.

and oh yeah Russia had 4 players from VP playing in Pride Nation 1 . ( not dqed? i wonder why? )

and norway was late for 1 day and yet they were given 2nd chance to play it the day after but in the norway Forfeited
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kingsurf cheated didn't they?
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You are such a funny guy.. is not KS cheated.. The whole JB ppl in JB kingsurf who watched the match with KS cheated lo if u say like that rite?


Added on February 14, 2008, 11:07 amFull news interview from GOSU
http://dota.gosugamers.net/news/7953-kings...ught-maphacking

Clarification by NAZ on KS MapHacking Issues. KS is CLEARED from MapHacking
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http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=204187

YouTube Video On KS VS 1P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUnJbQxwCo


Click Spoiler from Quote of The Maelk regarding this case

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post Feb 14 2008, 11:09 AM

too long...
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vincent_audio,

It's already cleared up that KS not MH la...As far as i'm concern.
I read all the comment in the link given.so much flames..sigh
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post Feb 14 2008, 11:10 AM

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Ks isnt cleared at least by the mym forum , go check it up ,they are still accusing them of maphacking. If not the article wouldve gone down and they would apologize, f***ing bunch of racist euro clan.
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post Feb 14 2008, 11:14 AM

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Oh. yakah..not by MYM forum? ic ic. well, we just have to wait for the final verdict la. although there are proof from both side rite?

1p should be kick off..smile.gif ban forever n label as loser if the final verdict says that KS is innocent.
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QUOTE(ubhm @ Feb 14 2008, 11:10 AM)
Ks isnt cleared at least by the mym forum , go check it up ,they are still accusing them of maphacking. If not the article wouldve gone down and they would apologize, f***ing bunch of racist euro clan.
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ya that's my point cleared by not in MYM forum which is the main point. If they can prove it otherwise, they would have taken down that and apologised
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lol today i spend 1 hour reading it eventhough its not in my field coz its interesting ^^



but why Ks didnt do any backing? I mean there is no statement yet done by them rite? or izzit they post it in another forum?


would like to know more about this ^^
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the only self defence that ks can come out with is they are playing at lan center (cc) with alot of spectators behind them

they did explained this MYM admin but they woudlt listen

MYM|Snake : dont give me this shit plz thx

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fun fact 1- team 1p is MYM|Snake former teammate during a lan tournament in Romanian (1p is from greece)
fun fact 2 - TEG which is the team that suppose to fight KS in the bracket is Snake's former team (they were beaten by KS in group stage of mym prime 8 despite being the favourite team to win heck even SK who supposed to place 1st in the group was beaten by KS)

http://www.mymym.com/en/team/374.html

http://www.mymym.com/en/coverage/434/9.html


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more stuffs to read at DA's forum

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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Feb 14 2008, 05:24 PM)
the only self defence that ks can come out with is they are playing at lan center (cc) with alot of spectators behind them

they did explained this MYM admin but they woudlt listen

MYM|Snake : dont give me this shit plz thx

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fun fact 1- team 1p is MYM|Snake former teammate during a lan tournament in Romanian (1p is from greece)
fun fact 2 - TEG which is the team that suppose to fight KS in the bracket is Snake's former team (they were beaten by KS in group stage of mym prime 8 despite being the favourite team to win heck even SK who supposed to place 1st in the group was beaten by KS)

http://www.mymym.com/en/team/374.html

http://www.mymym.com/en/coverage/434/9.html
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more stuffs to read at DA's forum

http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=402
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Yup, all hell break lose once GG posted interview and Naz posted his analysis of the replay that showed Ks is legit.
Speaking of the CCTV image, did Ks posted it already?

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post Feb 14 2008, 05:52 PM

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nope i dont think they have yet

it gets worse that the VP against ROSA match have the exact same red circle in fog thing ( the evidence that they used to accuse KS of maphacking)

now if they banned KS for that reason they should ban VP too . lol
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WOW, i think KS need to video themselves playin from now on for every online matches just to proof their innoncent, should ask some tips from Edison Chen on how to get a good angle to shoot the videos, he is an expert on shooting videos while playing thumbup.gif
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something you don't know
S1rro (MYM admin) say that Ks 5 player are not all playing at the same lanshop
1. He don't want to reconsider what he done, because he still believe Ks are using mh play against 1P
2. He know that Ks-MikeBz is not playing at KingSurf, so pointed that Ks-MikeBz is playing mh against 1P.
3. even if a CCTV image have show, it also show 4 KS player but not Ks-MikeBz is there, so CCTV image is useless IMO.
4. I think is just a bug for the replay, if red circle = mher, then not only KS will be ban, VP should be ban too..
5. Why MYM admin believe this case while they don't want to investigate VP vs rosa game? TeG-Snake and 1P player are close, and S1rro and TeG-Snake is best fren too.

just stay tuned and see what would mym admin did it.
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more supportive comments for ks now in the comments list...

great to see that!


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ubhm, just curious, did goldfries award u with anything when u posted this thread?
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another fact


- mineski (philiphine no1) was dqed and given loss for backdoor against DOP .. actually right after the backdoor happened mineski apologized and offered rmk but DOP manage to wipe out mineski and so they said its ok to continue but after they lost the game mineski was dqed for backdooring lol

.. zenith (singapore no1) was lagging horribly and requested for different host but the admin and their opponent (VIP) didt allowed them to rehost even when singapore was leading alot

all top 5 asian teams/countries have been treated unfairly lol

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Yeah, you claimed that the screenshot if bugged, and yet you USED it as your arguments to accuse them MH?

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:25 PM)
ubhm, just curious, did goldfries award u with anything when u posted this thread?
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yeap 10% but i dont mind, this is our nation pride at stake man , i would die for this. GOD I AM SO PISSED RIGHT NOW!
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because MYM admin will not accept that this is a BUG with the red circle thing. so some fanboy just posting out another screenshot about VP vs ROSA because if Ks being ban, VP should be ban too..
did you get the meaning ?
and yet, where is our malaysia admin, didn't do anything to help ?
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Flizzardo:

If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of
MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum?

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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM)
Flizzardo:

If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of
MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum?
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They just wont listen lah, ive posted it again and again, but theyre like whatever and stuff weve made up our mind.
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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM)
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If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of
MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum?
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Not just related to the game itself. Since they won't listen.

How posting view in MYM forum about what Flizzardo had mentioned earlier like treating asian teams not fair?

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Underminer pls prove KS's innocence! XD
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I dun think prooving anything will do any good...

If the MYM admin still wanna accuse ppl liddat, how talk also useless =(

Sigh...
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Ks is clear from accusation. i believe so.
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QUOTE(Jabenja @ Feb 14 2008, 08:11 PM)
Ks is clear from accusation. i believe so.
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Not until theyve really gone through everything and im afraid they wont back up on this one easily,remember just a few minutes ago gg.mars came up with some stupid proof later where he retracted it back cause it sounded so stupid.

For now theyre still banned.

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yes i remember gg.mars taking back his own words due to hashes and forgotten about the delay. u can see that on page 8 or 9 on mymym.com forum also.
i was the one who reply the comment to(gg.mars) and sayd that its delay that matters. BAM, he taking back his words, good one i guess im helping a bit.
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So everyone here is playing from their country? In a LAN Shop?



How do they know everyone is following the rules? And whts the process of complaining of undispute play?



Izzit like police investigation where they receive complaint and call upon the accused or just received complaint and ban?
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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Feb 14 2008, 09:59 PM)
So everyone here is playing from their country? In a LAN Shop?
How do they know everyone is following the rules? And whts the process of complaining of undispute play?
Izzit like police investigation where they receive complaint and call upon the accused or just received complaint and ban?
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no, many european teams are playing separately at their homes and communicating thru Ventrillo, which is a chatting software using microphone while playing....

in this case, the organizer , MYM, found a few so called "experts" to review the replay numerous times to check if KS is in fact "maphacking", a term used in WC3 which basically means using a hack programme to grant vision of the whole map at all times, i think they are other functions in this hack programme, but i cant elaborate since i never used it before.

the so called "experts" determined KS did cheat with their limited knowledge of the hacking programme and the Warcraft 3 gameplay Engine, and the admin decided to ban KS with this limited proof and knowledge.

a few hours later, Naz which have better understanding of warcraft 3 engine prove to the world that KS did not hack but is the gaming engine bug that caused the confusion, but still the admins have apologize or pullback their decision.

Hopes this clear up the situation for u, Jali!
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ban VP! HAHAHAHAHHA
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QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#)
,Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM]no, many european teams are playing separately at their homes and communicating thru Ventrillo, which is a chatting software using microphone while playing....

in this case, the organizer , MYM, found a few so called "experts" to review the replay numerous times to check if KS is in fact "maphacking", a term used in WC3 which basically means using a hack programme to grant vision of the whole map at all times, i think they are other functions in this hack programme, but i cant elaborate since i never used it before.

the so called "experts" determined KS did cheat with their limited knowledge of the hacking programme and the Warcraft 3 gameplay Engine, and the admin decided to ban KS with this limited proof and knowledge.

a few hours later, Naz which have better understanding of warcraft 3 engine prove to the world that KS did not hack but is the gaming engine bug that caused the confusion, but still the admins have apologize or pullback their decision.

Hopes this clear up the situation for u, Jali!
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actually i know what MH is.. i do play dota u know lol ^^



So tell me they will go thru all replay at the end of the match or only complaint games?



edit: and also why did Naz was the one showing prove that KS didnt hack? Why KS themselve didnt prove such bug exist?



Did the admin call upon hearing on KS when 1p complaint? If no then its pretty unfair to KS coz not allowing them to defend themselves and show how unprofessional they are as admin. Even in WCG when there is any dispute both players will be call upon and be heard.



Is there any official statement by KS? Would like to read it ^^

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The person behind MYM admin should be held accountable for his/their decision.

The problem here, since it's a nation vs nation tournament. Banning a team without "beyond resonable doubts" is not approriate for the team and the nation concern as well.

In this case, other "expert" may have a different opinion as what the expert in MYM might have. Hence, a lot of reasonable doubts being raised and further challenge the initial decision made by the organiser.

MYM is a reputable group and hope they will further investigate carefully and live up to their name.



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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 11:17 PM)
The person behind MYM admin should be held accountable for his/their decision.

The problem here, since it's a nation vs nation tournament. Banning a team without "beyond resonable doubts" is not approriate for the team  and the nation concern as well.

In this case, other "expert" may have a different opinion as what the expert in MYM might have. Hence, a lot of reasonable doubts being raised and  further challenge the initial decision made by the organiser.

MYM is a reputable group and hope they will further investigate carefully and live up to their name.
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Is the expert r well known to the community? Did the community know who the expert is? Or izit classified?
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Latest update! Ks have been cleared by MYM!! thumbup.gif

http://www.mymym.com/en/news/12321.html
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QUOTE(chapree @ Feb 14 2008, 11:57 PM)
Latest update! Ks have been cleared by MYM!!  thumbup.gif

http://www.mymym.com/en/news/12321.html
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lol so funny how they give statement...



"Why The Haste?"



Because got game coming up..



So thats why they ban KS at haste.. and clear at haste as well.. lol




Anyway gratz to KS for the unban but have to say thx to the admin for willing to accept their mistakes. Eventhough it doesnt seems like they are sincere but its ok lor it doesnt matter.


What matter now is for KS to redeem themselve and win the tourney ^^



ps: And there goes my 24 hours today! Thx god i dun have to read 1000++ comment again ^^
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Feb 14 2008, 06:35 PM)
another fact
- mineski (philiphine no1) was dqed and given loss for backdoor against DOP .. actually right after the backdoor happened mineski apologized and offered rmk but DOP manage to wipe out mineski and so they said its ok to continue but after they lost the game mineski was dqed for backdooring lol

.. zenith (singapore no1) was lagging horribly  and  requested for different host but the admin and their opponent (VIP) didt allowed them to rehost even when singapore was leading alot

all top 5 asian teams/countries have been treated unfairly lol
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I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums?
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QUOTE(Dogta @ Feb 15 2008, 02:07 AM)
I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums?
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Flizzardo is a DoTA Police and 'jambu' as one might say.
I mean seriously, he knows the history of other DoTA players that were treated shitly by the admins.

Anyways, welcome back Ks.

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I demand S1RRO to apologise sincerely.


Added on February 15, 2008, 2:14 amtDs-IS , TKTKTKTK.

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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Feb 14 2008, 11:41 PM)
Is the expert r well known to the community? Did the community know who the expert is? Or izit classified?
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from what i know few of the experts was called are GG.Mars (not really sure about his involvement in the investigation team but from the thread he opened in ggc but later removed he did say MYM admin contacted him before , ggamrs is big admin in ggc) , Metro (DA forum admin and former mym admin), Maelk (MYM DOTA leader) and i dont know about others but Maelk disagree for mh as he said the evidence was not enough , Metro agreed for mh (no suprise he is a well known asian hater he, even admitted it himself) , GG.Mars he agreed for mh but later changed his opinion

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I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums?
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nop my nick in DA forum is spacebadger
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lol ...
ggc got show the match in live right ?>
y wan maphack ? juz call 1 of ur fren log in and watch for live and put it in the big screenie !!! best map hack
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QUOTE(TM_Ming @ Feb 15 2008, 11:22 AM)
lol ...
ggc got show the match in live right ?>
y wan maphack ? juz call 1 of ur fren log in and watch for live and put it in the big screenie !!! best map hack
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ggtv streamed matches have a couple of minutes delay, to prevent such exploits.
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:25 PM)
ubhm, just curious, did goldfries award u with anything when u posted this thread?
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QUOTE(ubhm @ Feb 14 2008, 06:50 PM)
yeap 10% but i dont mind, this is our nation pride at stake man , i would die for this. GOD I AM SO PISSED RIGHT NOW!
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Why would a Malaysian team disgrace their nation by maphacking in a game? We are legit players aren't we? Malaysia Boleh~~

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a champion of malaysia team being accused for maphacking?
come on, they don't dare to do that, if they done that the whole Malaysian has known earlier
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well, I hope Snake is out of the admin team.
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not even a week has passed and everyones forgotten about the incident, snake is still on the lose!
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MYM Unfair....KS WIN 1P then bu suang...dumb ass kid s1rro
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i think he is out ald la ? if u click the coverage, no more snake face there.
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QUOTE(ataris @ Feb 20 2008, 01:54 PM)
well, I hope Snake is out of the admin team.
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they got disban from mym pride 9. T_T
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QUOTE(LuVz @ Feb 22 2008, 12:13 AM)
they got disban from mym pride 9. T_T
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tDs-IS
post Feb 22 2008, 01:33 AM

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Posted Today, 12:13 AM
they got disban from mym pride 9. T_T

QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 22 2008, 12:46 AM)
who????????

faizal tahir OIAM!

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