Flizzardo:
If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of
MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum?
This post has been edited by CityLife: Feb 14 2008, 07:27 PM
f*** MYM admins, were not out of the accusation yet
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 Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM
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Feb 14 2008, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM) Flizzardo: They just wont listen lah, ive posted it again and again, but theyre like whatever and stuff weve made up our mind.If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum?  |
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Feb 14 2008, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 07:24 PM) Flizzardo: Not just related to the game itself. Since they won't listen.If these were the cases, hv u post ur view with evidence of MYM not treating asian team fairly in the MYM forum? How posting view in MYM forum about what Flizzardo had mentioned earlier like treating asian teams not fair? |
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Feb 14 2008, 08:07 PM
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Underminer pls prove KS's innocence! XD
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Feb 14 2008, 08:11 PM
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I dun think prooving anything will do any good...
If the MYM admin still wanna accuse ppl liddat, how talk also useless =( Sigh... |
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Feb 14 2008, 08:11 PM
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Ks is clear from accusation. i believe so.
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Feb 14 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Jabenja @ Feb 14 2008, 08:11 PM) Ks is clear from accusation. i believe so. Not until theyve really gone through everything and im afraid they wont back up on this one easily,remember just a few minutes ago gg.mars came up with some stupid proof later where he retracted it back cause it sounded so stupid. For now theyre still banned. |
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Feb 14 2008, 09:48 PM
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yes i remember gg.mars taking back his own words due to hashes and forgotten about the delay. u can see that on page 8 or 9 on mymym.com forum also.
i was the one who reply the comment to(gg.mars) and sayd that its delay that matters. BAM, he taking back his words, good one i guess im helping a bit. |
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Feb 14 2008, 09:59 PM
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So everyone here is playing from their country? In a LAN Shop?
How do they know everyone is following the rules? And whts the process of complaining of undispute play? Izzit like police investigation where they receive complaint and call upon the accused or just received complaint and ban? |
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Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Feb 14 2008, 09:59 PM) So everyone here is playing from their country? In a LAN Shop? no, many european teams are playing separately at their homes and communicating thru Ventrillo, which is a chatting software using microphone while playing....How do they know everyone is following the rules? And whts the process of complaining of undispute play? Izzit like police investigation where they receive complaint and call upon the accused or just received complaint and ban? in this case, the organizer , MYM, found a few so called "experts" to review the replay numerous times to check if KS is in fact "maphacking", a term used in WC3 which basically means using a hack programme to grant vision of the whole map at all times, i think they are other functions in this hack programme, but i cant elaborate since i never used it before. the so called "experts" determined KS did cheat with their limited knowledge of the hacking programme and the Warcraft 3 gameplay Engine, and the admin decided to ban KS with this limited proof and knowledge. a few hours later, Naz which have better understanding of warcraft 3 engine prove to the world that KS did not hack but is the gaming engine bug that caused the confusion, but still the admins have apologize or pullback their decision. Hopes this clear up the situation for u, Jali! |
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Feb 14 2008, 10:44 PM
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ban VP! HAHAHAHAHHA
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Feb 14 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#) ,Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM]no, many european teams are playing separately at their homes and communicating thru Ventrillo, which is a chatting software using microphone while playing.... i c i c...in this case, the organizer , MYM, found a few so called "experts" to review the replay numerous times to check if KS is in fact "maphacking", a term used in WC3 which basically means using a hack programme to grant vision of the whole map at all times, i think they are other functions in this hack programme, but i cant elaborate since i never used it before. the so called "experts" determined KS did cheat with their limited knowledge of the hacking programme and the Warcraft 3 gameplay Engine, and the admin decided to ban KS with this limited proof and knowledge. a few hours later, Naz which have better understanding of warcraft 3 engine prove to the world that KS did not hack but is the gaming engine bug that caused the confusion, but still the admins have apologize or pullback their decision. Hopes this clear up the situation for u, Jali! actually i know what MH is.. i do play dota u know lol ^^ So tell me they will go thru all replay at the end of the match or only complaint games? edit: and also why did Naz was the one showing prove that KS didnt hack? Why KS themselve didnt prove such bug exist? Did the admin call upon hearing on KS when 1p complaint? If no then its pretty unfair to KS coz not allowing them to defend themselves and show how unprofessional they are as admin. Even in WCG when there is any dispute both players will be call upon and be heard. Is there any official statement by KS? Would like to read it ^^ This post has been edited by Rin @ si_jali: Feb 14 2008, 11:09 PM |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:17 PM
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The person behind MYM admin should be held accountable for his/their decision.
The problem here, since it's a nation vs nation tournament. Banning a team without "beyond resonable doubts" is not approriate for the team and the nation concern as well. In this case, other "expert" may have a different opinion as what the expert in MYM might have. Hence, a lot of reasonable doubts being raised and further challenge the initial decision made by the organiser. MYM is a reputable group and hope they will further investigate carefully and live up to their name. This post has been edited by CityLife: Feb 14 2008, 11:27 PM |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(CityLife @ Feb 14 2008, 11:17 PM) The person behind MYM admin should be held accountable for his/their decision. Is the expert r well known to the community? Did the community know who the expert is? Or izit classified?The problem here, since it's a nation vs nation tournament. Banning a team without "beyond resonable doubts" is not approriate for the team and the nation concern as well. In this case, other "expert" may have a different opinion as what the expert in MYM might have. Hence, a lot of reasonable doubts being raised and further challenge the initial decision made by the organiser. MYM is a reputable group and hope they will further investigate carefully and live up to their name. |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:57 PM
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Feb 15 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(chapree @ Feb 14 2008, 11:57 PM) lol so funny how they give statement..."Why The Haste?" Because got game coming up.. So thats why they ban KS at haste.. and clear at haste as well.. lol Anyway gratz to KS for the unban but have to say thx to the admin for willing to accept their mistakes. Eventhough it doesnt seems like they are sincere but its ok lor it doesnt matter. What matter now is for KS to redeem themselve and win the tourney ^^ ps: And there goes my 24 hours today! Thx god i dun have to read 1000++ comment again ^^ |
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Feb 15 2008, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Feb 14 2008, 06:35 PM) another fact I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums?- mineski (philiphine no1) was dqed and given loss for backdoor against DOP .. actually right after the backdoor happened mineski apologized and offered rmk but DOP manage to wipe out mineski and so they said its ok to continue but after they lost the game mineski was dqed for backdooring lol .. zenith (singapore no1) was lagging horribly and requested for different host but the admin and their opponent (VIP) didt allowed them to rehost even when singapore was leading alot all top 5 asian teams/countries have been treated unfairly lol |
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Feb 15 2008, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(Dogta @ Feb 15 2008, 02:07 AM) I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums? Flizzardo is a DoTA Police and 'jambu' as one might say.I mean seriously, he knows the history of other DoTA players that were treated shitly by the admins. Anyways, welcome back Ks. Quote from Yamateh "gg u back" I demand S1RRO to apologise sincerely. Added on February 15, 2008, 2:14 amtDs-IS , TKTKTKTK. This post has been edited by sunakujiro^^: Feb 15 2008, 02:17 AM |
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Feb 15 2008, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ Feb 14 2008, 11:41 PM) Is the expert r well known to the community? Did the community know who the expert is? Or izit classified? from what i know few of the experts was called are GG.Mars (not really sure about his involvement in the investigation team but from the thread he opened in ggc but later removed he did say MYM admin contacted him before , ggamrs is big admin in ggc) , Metro (DA forum admin and former mym admin), Maelk (MYM DOTA leader) and i dont know about others but Maelk disagree for mh as he said the evidence was not enough , Metro agreed for mh (no suprise he is a well known asian hater he, even admitted it himself) , GG.Mars he agreed for mh but later changed his opinion QUOTE(Dogta @ Feb 15 2008, 02:07 AM) I've been wondering for the longest time, are you the same flizzardo on Dota forums? nop my nick in DA forum is spacebadger |
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Feb 15 2008, 11:22 AM
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lol ...
ggc got show the match in live right ?> y wan maphack ? juz call 1 of ur fren log in and watch for live and put it in the big screenie !!! best map hack |
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