QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 1 2008, 07:01 PM)
All serious watch collectors will first look at the movement, then only the quality/finishing. The quality of the finishing is secondary.
The movement is very important. As serious watch collectors, we look at the movement (caliber). Even if the quality/finishing is superb, there is no point in buying the watch if the watch uses an ETA movement.
I suspect that you are not yet in the serious collector category yet. Only newbie collectors look at the finishing. Remember movement first then finishing. Grace before beauty.
I'll take an excellent condition movement watch to a one with a beautiful dial but less than stellar movement any day. Especially true with vintage watches.
The higher end Panerai costs RM100,000 and above. Isn't that 100x more than a RM1,000+ Tag Heuer.
well different collectors have different priorities, brand and design/finishing/case material/diamonds are also equally important, to tell people that arent serious collector category just because the movement isn't no.1 priority in choosing shows how condescending and unexposed you are to the world of watches.. and your current collection shows. to pay for one 50+k for a patek (and the rest aint exactly A.lange sohne/breguet class) and wanna be in the "serious catagory"? sure or not?The movement is very important. As serious watch collectors, we look at the movement (caliber). Even if the quality/finishing is superb, there is no point in buying the watch if the watch uses an ETA movement.
I suspect that you are not yet in the serious collector category yet. Only newbie collectors look at the finishing. Remember movement first then finishing. Grace before beauty.
I'll take an excellent condition movement watch to a one with a beautiful dial but less than stellar movement any day. Especially true with vintage watches.
The higher end Panerai costs RM100,000 and above. Isn't that 100x more than a RM1,000+ Tag Heuer.
Added on October 2, 2008, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Oct 1 2008, 07:01 PM)
The higher end Panerai costs RM100,000 and above. Isn't that 100x more than a RM1,000+ Tag Heuer.
the lower end panerai 20klower end tag around 1k+ - 2k, around 10x-15x
higher end panerai over 100k as you said
higher end Tag also 10-15k.. 10x-15x
this is a more fair comparison donch ya think?
Added on October 2, 2008, 1:18 pm
QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 1 2008, 10:40 PM)
Wow you are not just average joe man, your in the mid upper class of the society.
How do you pay rm35000 by cash? Bring a shoe box?
If the only way to get good discount is to make your way up by buying more watches from them, it's a long way, 10 years maybe. The owner might even changed. Best way is you take us there la keke.
I suggest buying them in Swiss, no tax, big discount if you pay by cash. If you are buying watches like RM35k the money you save probably enough for the plane tickets.
middle class management type also can buy 20-30k watch no need to be mid upper class.. just have to save for it lor.. if its your main hobby sooner or later you get to acquire the things you love.. How do you pay rm35000 by cash? Bring a shoe box?
If the only way to get good discount is to make your way up by buying more watches from them, it's a long way, 10 years maybe. The owner might even changed. Best way is you take us there la keke.
I suggest buying them in Swiss, no tax, big discount if you pay by cash. If you are buying watches like RM35k the money you save probably enough for the plane tickets.
to buy a 35k watch, no need to bring cash also can. just write a cheque (if the shop is familar with you, they will let you take the watch) , or if not, come back 2days later when the cheque clear to get the watch. or just swipe CC lor..
not all watches buying in swiss is cheaper, for rolex, even in malaysia can be cheaper than in swiss or SG...if you know the key person well, they might let you get higher than normal discount on certain ranges...
This post has been edited by ar188: Oct 2 2008, 01:18 PM