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Hi guys - a question on a different forum from the normal one! =)

I'm in a corp based in Caldari space, and we're all mostly Caldari, and fly missions for Caldari Navy. Hence when we do group missions it's normally 1-2 Ravens, 2-3 Drakes and a few Caracals (one of them is me).. all very boring. Very effective, but boring. When salvaging we have 4 different destroyers, which is nice, but when fighting it's all the same thing.

I have some Amarr frigate skills, so I wanted to get an Amarr ship to add some colour to our fleet and look better. I want to get a Prophecy as my BC. I'm going for Amarr BC rather than BS because BC isn't a faction-specific skill, so if I really don't like it I can switch to a yucky Drake later on with no extra training. I'm choosing Prophecy over Harbinger because it's cheaper, and the bonuses are weaker. Since my Corp is based in Caldari, we fight Guristas a lot, and lasers don't do very well against Guristas. I want to use hybrids or projectiles, but with the Harbinger I'm wasting (and paying for) a lot of good Energy Turret bonuses, whereas with the Prophecy I still get a nice 5% armour resistance per level. The other bonus, reduced cap for Energy turrets, is supposed to be lousy even if you did use lasers, so I'm told by all laser users. Prophecy also has a single missile launcher which I can use to arm a Heavy Missile (or Assault Missile to take out frigates).

Basically I get an Amarr battlecruiser which I can switch to Drake if I don't like it and I use hybrids/projectiles instead of lasers without sacrificing my ship bonuses. Prophecy is weaker than Harbinger in almost all departments, and much weaker than Drake, but given what I'm aiming for, I'm sure it's going to fit in well with my Corp fleet missions.

My question is.. will I get thrashed doing Level 3 missions solo using a Prophecy armed with hybrids/projectiles? How can I best maximise my armor resistance bonuses? Not using lasers reduces cap drain, but do hybrid and projectiles drain cap as much? How can I make this work?

Thanks all!! =)

This post has been edited by Charsiupao: May 13 2008, 09:40 PM

Because the Amarr Prophecy is one of the best looking ships in the game, while the Brutix etc are just ugly. If I wanted a good powerful ugly ship I'd have used the Drake anyway =)

Amarr's defence really that weak? Or is is because without the bonus to hybrid or projectile weapons the DPS is too low?

Raven is a Battleship, not a Battlecruiser. After the Prophecy I could go Raven - I just want to skip the Drake.

Gallente cannot le.. the Brutix and Myrmidon are both very ugly. With the Prophecy I'll probably also be using Hybrids anyway, it's just that unlike the Brutix and Myrmidon, I won't get any bonuses from the ship for using it. My using Prophecy is effectively replacing my using, say, a Ferox, just that it's not as ugly and will do less damage with Hybrids.


I have no intentions of using lasers - which is why the Prophecy is more attractive than the Harbinger. The bonus to armour doesn't matter which gun you use, and the energy turret lower cap requirements is worthless anyway.

That's why I mentioned in my first post that I don't want to use lasers, using hybrids or projectiles (probably hybrids really - 6 railguns) otherwise I can't hurt the Guristas. I'm just curious to know if there's any way I can kit out my Prophecy so that it can tank damage pretty well. I know the Prophecy is a defence ship, while Harbinger is an attack ship - all four factions have one of each at BC level. If I can add some reflective platings or whatnots etc, why can't the Prophecy armour tank Guristas? Is there no way to counter the Guristas' missile damage using armour? Prophecy grants 5% armour resistance per level, so wouldn't that help?

I'm aware that it's not as good as a drake which can tank wave after wave of Guristas even when the pilot goes to toilet for a break. It's not like I'm taking a frigate to do level 3 - I'm assuming that EVE is fairly balanced in many respects, and that any battlecruiser, configured correctly and played wisely, should be able to hold its own against a level 3 mission. If a Drake, Brutix, Myrmidon, Harbinger etc are all so decent, I's just wondering why the Prophecy has no chance at all.

Thanks for the setup, Nightfall - I know you mean well! =)

Maybe I should just move to Amarr space where everyone is flying bloody Harbingers, Apocalypse, Abaddon and Armageddons, then at least my Caracal won't look so common.

Yaloh, I thought it could work, just not as well, but apparently most people here (and on the EVE forums) say that it cannot survive some level 3 missions solo, so maybe Prophecy is a really really lousy ship. But I'll probably still try and let everyone know what happened and how it died! =)

Another question - what is the best range one can hope for with medium hybrid or medium projectile? With Heavy Missiles I can get a missile range over 65km (not sure how far because my targeting range so far can only reach 65km). With railguns, I noticed the best I can hope for is 28km using 250mm Prototype I Gauss or 250mm Railgun II. Thorium charges give me 40% range bonus (Iron give 60% but damage looks lousy). Throw in 5 ranks of Sharpshooter and it works out to be only about 50km range. Is that as long range as a Medium Turret can go?

This post has been edited by Charsiupao: May 14 2008, 05:27 PM

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Yeah, probably have to train Cruiser at best. Cruiser level V can take close to 30 days to train (or more if your perc and will are low), so it's still good. Imagine an Osprey with the full 100% (20% x 5) mining bonus or a Caracal with the full 25% (5% x 5) bonus kinetic damage.

No grinding. You can set a skill to train for 20 days and come back after 20 days if you wanted. Your skills train even when you're offline (as long as you set a skill to train). You only really need to play to gain ISK (money) to buy stuff, and, of course, to enjoy yourself!

Joining late is not a problem. Apart from experience, how effective you are depends on your skills - each skill got 5 levels. The training time for the skills increase exponentially while the benefits are linear, so somebody played for 3 years with many skills at level V, you can come in a train all to level IV in a very short time, and only be a little bit weaker.

Very deep game, very hard to explain uless you start playing!

Is Eve down? Been trying to get through for the past 2 hours or so but can't - everything else works other than Eve and its website.

Darn, and I had just completed training too - wish I had put in a long train instead of a short 3-hour skill. =(

Aaah!! *comfort*. That really bad. I wonder why couldn't log in when everything else was working. No news on CCP side today so must be something between the Malaysia/Iceland connection or something.

I normally only go to Jita immediately after downtime when less ppl - that place is insane, and if by some chance you dc over there, you'll probably never reconnect.. =(

I think even in the EVE-store they'll email you the code rather than send a physical card. I tried ordering a mousemat and things from them but also not authorised, although the E-ON shop works perfectly fine. My credit card company say they didn't even get any request from the EVe-Store, so something's wrong there. Sent them an email but they never replied.

The place a lot of my EVE friends go to buy ETC is www.shatteredcrystal.com - although I've never tried it. They sell everything, I think.

Does anyone else have this problem? I disconnect every 10 minutes or so. It's only for a few seconds, but enough to make me lose link. I can jump about 3 systems before I'm forced to dock and wait things out. A Streamyx thing, or just my PC?

Me too - have you seen the price, though? =(

Having said that, they're much bigger than those Star Wars toy ships we see. These are around a foot long, and the Tempest is more than a foot tall. Quite tough to store them in a display case - Raven is very wide, Tempest is very tall, and Mega/Apoc are very long. Must take a lot of space....

Another good thing is they made these battleships so big, they can easily release frigate models at the right scale.

This post has been edited by Charsiupao: Sep 11 2008, 05:43 PM

What most mission runners do is blow up the wreck so the thief gets nothing. Easier to do with Turret ships, though. Taking out a wreck 50km away when the ninja closes in on it using lasers is quite satisfying. In Cantonese we say "yat pak liong san".

Sometimes you can make friends with the thief in local, but it's rare. Normally ninja salvagers have no class, like a Bangla or Indo illegal immigrant robber, but occasionally if you talk, they talk back, and if they're polite and you let them take without shooting, and they know you can shoot, you can make a friend and next time maybe they don't kacau you anymore. You give face, they give face.

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