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TSrogerwee
post Feb 8 2008, 09:41 PM, updated 18y ago

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hi guys...

I've owned a Ashton electric/acoustic guitar with 10watts amp,

Now my hands so itchy to play full electric guitar, so got me Ibanez Grg170Dx with zoom g2 effect..

my q.

1. what is 2dual channel amps?

2. what is reverb?

3. why when playing electric guitar on my 10watts amp the sound very2 terrible?

sorry i'am very2 noob about electric guitar...
SweetTooth
post Feb 8 2008, 10:00 PM

 
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what is 2dual channel amps?

2 channels as in clean and distortion. each provides different sounds

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what is reverb?

in layman terms, echo.

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why when playing electric guitar on my 10watts amp the sound very2 terrible?

you get what you pay for smile.gif
blacktrix
post Feb 8 2008, 10:02 PM

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No worries mate.......... we all have to stat somewhere!

1. A Dual Channel amplifier USUALLY means that it has two "modes" of sound, usually a clean and a distortion/overdrive sound.

2. Reverb is an echo effect that is sometimes present with certain amplifiers. There can be a digital or analog "flavors" of reverbs, where most prefer the more natural sounding analog spring reverb. An example of this effect is if you shout out loud in a very big, but empty room....... that kind of echo effect.

3. An acoustic amplifier is normally very biased towards the high-end spectrum of the sound, which gives that acoustic "ring" to the sound. A normal guitar amplifier has a flatter EQ compared to an acoustic amplifier.

Experts, please also chime in your answers.
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post Feb 8 2008, 10:08 PM

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looks like need new amps..hehhe. i tot all guitar amps are the same,

that why when playing with headphones the sound is ok....but with the acoustic amps, my god like the whole world going to fall apart....

thanks for the answer....

and any suggestion on small but powerfullelectric guitar amps around rm500.
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post Feb 8 2008, 10:14 PM

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Our favorite tiny but powerful Roland Microcube.......
5w, but it really packs a punch, some great built in-effects (even though you don't need them) and some great selection of modeled amps (ie: makes your amplifier sound like higher end amps).
Should be around the RM350-400 price mark.
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post Feb 8 2008, 10:22 PM

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if you're into extreme distortion, go for the Laney Extreme range
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post Feb 9 2008, 12:17 AM

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Since we're on this topic ...

For metal kinda sound .. Do you guys think "Marshall" or "Laney" brand amps suits "metal" better?

I dont know, to me Marshall sounds more like a "metal" brand..

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post Feb 9 2008, 12:40 AM

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Again, depends on the amp model.
If for budget reasons, don't get a Marshall..... the MG series is quite bad..... I personally tried out a few and really didn't like it. Totally doesn't carry the Marshall name well. For that price, I would rather go for the Laney Hardcore for Metal.......
But if we're on THAT price range, we're talking about RM700-ish, I would go for the Vox AD30VT-XL....... it has a valve in the power-amp section and has some great variety of Metal and Boutique amps you can simulate.... and yes, the simulations are VERY accurate actually.

Once you know the proper sound you're looking for, then only lock down your final amp. In my case, it's a Marshall JCM2000....... and I've played with so many simulators in the past (For a quick score, I used a Zoom 505, Zoom GFX5, Vox Tonelab SE and also Line6 Gearbox software) and KNOW that the Marshall crunch is the sound for me. But if you're starting out, it's good to get as many amp (or simulations) before you lock your own tone.
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post Feb 9 2008, 01:07 AM

 
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or a roland cube 15/20 thumbup.gif
i personally havent tried the ad30vtXL yet, but i take blacktrix's word for it biggrin.gif
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post Feb 9 2008, 03:19 AM

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as all of your questions answered already
i just want to recommend you ibanez tone blaster 15w reverb (tb15r)
good for practice & cheap too
price is around rm500

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post Feb 9 2008, 08:19 AM

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The Vox AD30VT-XL is actually a valve-reactor amp...... means there's only a single 12AX7 Tube, which is normally used in the pre-amp section.
It basically gives you a very similar sound to the tubes, but don't actually have to worry about changing it for a long time, we're talking roughly 2 years plus, depending on how often you play.

It's not like a power amp where you have to warm up your tubes before you play..... just plug in, hit the power button, and you're good to go.

More about the Vox AD30VT-XL here:

http://www.voxamps.co.uk/valvetronixxl/ad30vt-xl.asp
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post Feb 9 2008, 10:16 AM

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Woah,I thought the tube for the AD30VTXL no need to change wan.How much do 12AX7 tubes usually cost?
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post Feb 9 2008, 12:56 PM

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Below 20USD.......
But again, you don't have to change them for a very looooooong time. You'd probably upgrade your amp before you need to change them tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2008, 02:26 PM

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my fren change his marshall AVT tube not long ago
rm70 for a electro harmonix 12AX7
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post Feb 10 2008, 10:03 AM

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You know Blacktrix, about the Marshall MG series... yeah it doesn't sound like what you'd expect Marshall distortion to be like. But personally, I think the distortion is quite nice for a budget solid state... probably because I don't really like the typical Marshall sound! hehe sweat.gif

The MG has got this nice scooped and smooth sound to it...
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post Feb 10 2008, 12:03 PM

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Hmmmmmm.... I found the distortion more trebly and grainy..... must go to Bentley and get a second opinion.
I hear alot of good things about the MG15DFX though........
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post Feb 10 2008, 10:32 PM

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The Marshall MG is pretty good, at bedroom volumes, but sounds quite bad when cranked, distortion gets really ugly. Most solid states are like that, due to the lack of headroom.

The tube in the Valvetronix is not really used to drive the power amp/speakers section of the Vox amp, it is used to emulate how an actual tube power amp would react. The final power amp driver is still a solid state amplifier. So, in that case your tubes would not need to be replaced that often, unlike a real tube power amp section. Further more, 12AX7s are not actually power tubes and is definitely not used as power tubes in the Valvetronix. Hence they are not operated under very heavy loads and would last quite long.

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post Feb 11 2008, 11:39 PM

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yups probabli about 2-3yrs depend on usage
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post Feb 21 2008, 04:56 PM

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sorry to tumpang, but what would amp would sound 'bluesy'.

I want that old-skool blues sound thats crisp. Budget around RM500.
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post Feb 21 2008, 05:15 PM

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Get the Vox AD15VT then..... alot of great blues sound, like the coveted AC50...

 

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