Don't really agree with the proposal. As much as I want to see Man United play a competitive game near me(although I doubt they are going to play in Malaysia anyways if the idea goes thru, more likely Japan or Korea or you know, the bigger footballing nations), I think it's a very bad idea. The idea of letharginess will definitely be thrown about by managers if bad performances arises due to the long travels. The 7 sub idea next season, I can accept, this I think is a bad idea and is more than a money spinning one than anything else. i assume they are adopting this idea from the NFL who holds their regular season game out of the US once in a while.

As for atmosphere...I can't really see the atmosphere in England being replicated back here. I love my clubs songs, there one thing more that Ilove in the atmosphere there. That collective roar they do when the ball hits the net. Never seen that being done here. And rather than club songs, I can visualize seeing more of...."Gila Ahhhh Rooney" or "wah lau weh Gerrard" or..."Fulamak, power aa Lampard" rather than hearing fans bursting out Pride of All Europe, The Busby Boys or the United Calypso, for us Man United fans for example. The typical Malaysian attitude.

Yes , that's a point since they plan the games in mid Jan which will be winter and suddenly they come to Dubai with desert heat.

But do you think the money pondans and greedy fat cat media companies will care 2 hoots ? I don't think so

The stasis I think would be less of a problem , in places like SG , dubai , Sydney etc in China who knows safety may be comprimised.

Thats what I mean dude , if it's in China , there'll be even more ways the game could be corrupted . Yes Mr Lim is a " business man " , good methaphor.

exactly and this is the 1st step to COMPLETELY making the EPL inernational - in the near future ALL big games will be played in so called ' glamour ' places : LA , Beijing etc . The UK fans are going to be betrayed , after all the decades of building up the clubs . f***ing out of order.

And about singing , yeah they may even be able to ape the words but there wont be 1 ounce of realism in it . Good you appreciate this point . If UK fan die , then the EPL will be forvever changed to something weird , pariah and so called ' intenational ' .

The name Liverpool FC will have no meaning , you might as call them the " red Dragons " or something. Phuii horrible.

the ' issue ' or problem is this latest news tends to make it even worse . Youre right we have to revert I would say not even to semi pro but a nationalised league with modest salaries.

But even then , the young will be even more lazy watching 48 hours of football over the WE , where got time even to take a walk with the dog never mind dedicate yourself to the game .

Good that you appreciate these points , you are a real fan in that respect .

Other guys ,

The C shield is NOT proposed to play globally , they dont want that they know the
' fans ' dont want another friendly. Anway the end game is to play ALL games internaionally with Uk being just 1 venue among many .

Msia will not be a venue at least not initially because of SG , SG is counting on our people to go down there.

The way its going this is what they plan with new international owners and such.

I thinkits chowwhai horrible , it will kill any remnant of EPL , will be a IPL .

PS. Where is this 7 subs idea from - link please

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Added on February 8, 2008, 4:40 pmOh I just read , it is NOT 7 subs but 7 on the bench and only 3 as per usual is allowed to change during the game .

get it right glamour fans , see what I mean about not playing the game .

Soon with all this intenat bullsit , we're going to have fans who dont even knownthe diff between offside and backside .

This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Feb 8 2008, 04:40 PM

Looking forward to it. In those days I used to collect newspaper clippings on Selangor. My favourite player was Karen Stromsik in goal. He played a game or two in the 1982 World Cup if memory serves me. Played with a fever as well as the other two keepers were out injured. K. Gunalan marshaled the defence ahead of him. There was a strong spine to the side with Zoran Nikolic and Pavel Korecjik in midfield and attack respectively. We also had the option of fielding either Dollah Salleh or Zainal Abidin Hassan of course. On the bench we had supersub, P.Maniam! Well that was a long time again, sigh...

that was great days of our football period... really missed it too....
that time i luv to go to stadium, bcoz of the scenario in the stadium
wow, really best woooo that time...

The old Malaysia cup was better , no private involvement .

I played vs Zainal in a friendly .

You know who I like from the Selangor team in that era(early 90's). Stromsik was excellent I love him but I love Mehmet Durakovic even more. Got numerous callups to the Australian squad but turned it down plenty of times to help Selangor.

Really? How come? Whooped your ass did he?

Would love to see if he'd do that now, seeing as Australia have now a realistic chance of playing in the World Cup lol.

But the Community Shield would beat a Premier League pre-season throphy [which we had a couple of seasons back] in a sense that at least the Community Shield is a trophy that carries meaning.

Ah , in those days , no big deal to meet these people , they weren't glamour pandans , pros , part timers , fans all mingled and supported each other .

the standard btwn him and the rest of us wasn't that great , the diff is he has better training and fitness coz he does it full time .

I have also played competitively vs a future EPL player ex Bolton & Man C .

Now of course it's different , ask a so called amateur to play the full game he blow out of his ass after 25 mins and then pretend to doing something else.

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Added on February 8, 2008, 7:08 pmnot in the plans .

This post has been edited by Haunkiem: Feb 8 2008, 07:08 PM

totally bullshiat whats the FA thinking

The FA is not in charge the EPL is a private body make up of the 20 teams .

They are in it purely for $ and POWER , real fans can go eat dung as far as they are concerned.

If it doesn't stop now , what will happen is when you go to SG to see MU or whatever , some commie who just last month became a 'fan' from Shanbei will look at you and have the nerve to say :

" Errrrrr , you errrrr not theerrrrrrr realllllerrr fanerrrr , you Malayise "
You the long time suporter who built the following in your own country , prolly even been to OT when it was completely unfashionable .

You have been stabbed in the back by the EPL abd kicked in the face and now you got this weirdo prolly subsidised by the Commie gov to fly to SG and show his uglyface and now EPl respects him more than you .


- how would you feel ?

It won't be global for all the games. Doesn't make sense. You can still watch the game on TV, internet, wherever you are. Besides they would get more $$ over in England. Do you think a regular guy in Malaysia would pay RM 200 for a ticket? This is just a gimmick to promote the EPL brand. Hopefully anyways. I just can't see it right now. A Super League however is a different matter. the Milans team, Real, Barca, Bayern, Big 4(or 3 now ) in EPL..

Keane - Change is good
Black Cats boss backs Premier League proposals
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3120436,00.html

best la...if it happen at Malaysia..can watch Arsenal play ...hihi

Fergie slams Premier League
United boss unhappy over lack of consultation
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3120788,00.html

Selangor playing against Sabah in San Siro for Something Super Liga M. Wow. Its ridiculous. Home and away. 20 teams, 38 games, its more than enough. Just go and create a stupid friendly cup, I don't care, but leave the league as it is. The best league in the world(top 2 IMO), and they want to ruin it.

The FA try to fix sumthing unbroken i guess.

i've been to olympic qualification match between malaysia u-23 and korea u-23 in MBPJ stadium a few years back...
almost quarter of the stadium was filled by the korean supporters and they could make noise compared to the quiet malaysian supporters...
and the game was in balance 0-0, not malaysia were kicked in the @ss!!
finally lost 0-1 in the last 10 minutes...

korean supporters learned to chant and sing just before 2002 world cup, and they have managed to change their attitude..
when will the malaysian football supporters association will make change like that?

nyway, back to the topic,
i just wonder:

How FIFA react to the news?
And how they are going to decide which team plays who?
i propose they will face opponent based on league standings on january...
example:
1st vs 11th,
2nd vs 12th
.
.
.
10th vs 20th

so that all match will be balanced...
just my 2 cents...

more and more reaction comes...

Newspapers condemn Premier League global plan

LONDON, Feb 8 (Reuters) - The Premier League's plan to play matches overseas has achieved the rare distinction of uniting the popular and heavyweight press, with almost universal condemnation in Britain's newspapers on Friday.

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'For Sale, our national game,' said The Mirror, adding 'outrage at greedy plan'.

'Football's sold its soul,' said The Express, 'Global warning' - The Sun, 'They're killing our game,' - Daily Mail.

The Independent weighed in with 'Chase for cash threatens to rob game of founding principle,' while The Times said 'Fans furious at Premier League plans for world domination.'

In a comment piece the Daily Telegraph said that the plan was a bargaining chip to be used by the Premier League in discussions with the FA over giving players more time off from league games before internationals.

Every paper carried reaction from managers and former players, most condemning the idea for its logistical problems as well as an example of the game moving ever further from its traditional fan base.

'It's bad enough with international friendlies, let alone going overseas,' Wigan Athletic boss Steve Bruce said.

Middlesbrough manager Gareth Southgate asked: 'Is it April 1? I find it highly unlikely it would happen. I wouldn't think it would be a realistic proposition.'

However, not everyone was writing it off and Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn was among those who said it was an idea worth investigating.

'I think the time is right to explore the opportunity of bringing the brand around the world but some people have jumped to conclusions,' he said.

'There are a lot of stakeholders to consult, the biggest one being our fans but it's tantalising and off the top of my head I would say it's the correct decision.'

Football Supporters' Federation (FSF) chairman Malcolm Clarke labelled the proposals 'ludicrous'.

'The FSF has no doubt whatsoever the vast majority of supporters are against this and believe it would drag the Premier League into the realms of farce,' Clarke said.

'When this ludicrous idea was first mooted last year we ran a poll and 80 percent were in complete opposition.

'I think that figure will go even higher now that the full ridiculousness of the Premier League's proposals of how this would actually work has been revealed.

'Basically, it's a case of 'We've had their money here, now where else can we get people to put their hands in their pockets?' The sole motivation for this is the Premier League to make more money - aren't they making enough already?'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=506112&cc=4716

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Added on February 8, 2008, 11:57 pmNo plans for Primera Liga foreign fixtures
Spain's Primera Liga insist they have no plans to follow their English counterparts and add an international round of fixtures but admitted it is 'a good idea'.

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The 20 Premier League clubs unanimously agreed yesterday to further examine a proposal that would see 10 competitive fixtures hosted in five major cities over one weekend.

But while Spanish football chiefs back the plan in theory, they claim they are not considering following suit at the moment.

'Up to now we have no plans to do anything similar,' La Liga's chief spokesman said.

'But it seems like a good idea.

'I think it is an idea that fits in with the notion of football as a global game - a sport without borders.

'Football is without borders and something like this is a sign that the sport is adapting to the time that we live in.

'But I want to reiterate that we have no plans to do the same and have not ever thought about it or talked about it.'

In the Premier League's proposal, the extra round would begin in January of the 2010-11 season and would be in addition to the traditional 38 home and away matches each of the 20 clubs currently play.

The plans will take at least a year to finalise and could see five cities across the globe hosting two matches each in a continuous weekend of football.

The spokesman admitted it could be an interesting option for the future but was sceptical as to whether Spanish football fans would accept such a dramatic break from tradition.

'I don't know if the Spanish fans will approve,' he continued.

'They're used to going to watch their team every fortnight in their own stadiums.

'I don't know if they would go abroad to watch two Spanish teams.

'We'll have to analyse it and look at it closely because we don't know what could happen.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=506168&cc=4716

This post has been edited by nizamhameed: Feb 8 2008, 11:57 PM

eh , post some of your own views lah instead of newprint which we all can find .