QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jul 2 2008, 12:15 AM)
seems like you were right on EJ Forex Trading Corner V2
Forex Trading Corner V2
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 12:24 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,646 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 12:32 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,214 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jul 2 2008, 12:15 AM) Nice for you. I still cant sleep. Need to be awake and havent finish all my work due to my GU. How am i going to type the project into my microsoft word while my chart is on???? I need to type 15m. then alt+tab see 2 min. then alt+tab to words again. |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 12:35 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,158 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
just closed your chart....
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 07:41 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,214 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 10:33 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,522 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Mordor, Middle Earth. |
QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 1 2008, 11:13 AM) well.....strengthen the euro do more harm than good....... I repeat, there is no way the ECB will drop rate for this time. It is not even in their mind to drop rate. Oil 143USD and u except them to cut rate? previously there's already an announcement on ECB to bring down euro.....not rate....so either the rate stay there or drop......like u say...the chances of rate drop from ECB is so low....but the chances r there They will lose their job for causing an even higher inflation. i am running at least 50% probability they will hike the rate to 4.25%. Oil 143USD. Thats alone have enough reason to hike rate. |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 10:34 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
867 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: So Near Yet So Far |
i found this chartpartern website..useful for chart partern lover
http://www.candlesticker.com/Default.asp Added on July 2, 2008, 10:38 am QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 2 2008, 10:33 AM) I repeat, there is no way the ECB will drop rate for this time. It is not even in their mind to drop rate. Oil 143USD and u except them to cut rate? i agree with u.. the oil price already bad enoughh.. wanna add cut rates summore.. gile laaa They will lose their job for causing an even higher inflation. i am running at least 50% probability they will hike the rate to 4.25%. Oil 143USD. Thats alone have enough reason to hike rate. This post has been edited by hitokiri_maniac: Jul 2 2008, 10:38 AM |
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 11:15 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,158 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 2 2008, 10:33 AM) I repeat, there is no way the ECB will drop rate for this time. It is not even in their mind to drop rate. Oil 143USD and u except them to cut rate? I love your explanation about Fundemental la..... They will lose their job for causing an even higher inflation. i am running at least 50% probability they will hike the rate to 4.25%. Oil 143USD. Thats alone have enough reason to hike rate. |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 11:19 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,185 posts Joined: Oct 2005 |
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 11:59 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,569 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Bermuda Triangle |
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 2 2008, 10:33 AM) I repeat, there is no way the ECB will drop rate for this time. It is not even in their mind to drop rate. Oil 143USD and u except them to cut rate? well....diff ppl diff thinking....They will lose their job for causing an even higher inflation. i am running at least 50% probability they will hike the rate to 4.25%. Oil 143USD. Thats alone have enough reason to hike rate. i would say 90% stay and 10% drop |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 12:14 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,522 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Mordor, Middle Earth. |
QUOTE(normeck @ Jul 2 2008, 11:15 AM) I love your explanation about Fundemental la..... *cough, I am just a FX trader, dont bring me so high up www.Forexfactory.com www.bloomberg.com www.cnbc.com www.ecb.int They have live video from trichet Anynews that u can come over from google. If most of Economist say the samething. It is Most likely it is true. the above 3 websites (except ECB.int) u can link to a lot of other website about fundamentals. I usually link from there to other unknown ed places. Stay out of market guys, This market is like time ticking bomb now. Any stupid move @ ECB will create a swing up and down 100-500pips. I running only 1% probability they will drop rate. As for technical, Look at candle stick 1min, 5min & 30min to decide ur trade, it works very effective. Luqmaz is right, 5750 is proven to be key levels in the past for quite sometime. It probably good to take a long below 5750 with a +1 pip profit SL. This post has been edited by billytong: Jul 2 2008, 12:20 PM |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 01:00 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,158 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
Asian Stocks Decline, Led by Nippon Yusen, Korean Air, Honda
ok ...please teach me on this...lets go to basic 1st Asian Stocks decline....that means?.... their current situation on economy was going down...then JPY currency sure get down right? after that people will sell Yen right?> This post has been edited by normeck: Jul 2 2008, 01:07 PM |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 01:17 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,569 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Bermuda Triangle |
QUOTE(normeck @ Jul 2 2008, 01:00 PM) Asian Stocks Decline, Led by Nippon Yusen, Korean Air, Honda usually when stock decline yen rise....aka gbp,usd/jpy dropok ...please teach me on this...lets go to basic 1st Asian Stocks decline....that means?.... their current situation on economy was going down...then JPY currency sure get down right? after that people will sell Yen right?> i heard something about buy yen to pay debt or something liddat, because yen rate is very low This post has been edited by dr2k3: Jul 2 2008, 01:18 PM |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,158 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
1)when bank decrease their interest rate...then more poeple will borrow money from bank....mean? good for economy? currency will go up?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 01:32 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,569 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Bermuda Triangle |
rate drop = currency drop...because ppl want the rate....same like FD...if low u want to put in o not?
but rate low good for stock....but not for jp case...very complicated....too many chain reaction |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 01:54 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,522 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Mordor, Middle Earth. |
QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 2 2008, 01:17 PM) usually when stock decline yen rise....aka gbp,usd/jpy drop It is call carry Trades. I'll try explain in a quite layman term.i heard something about buy yen to pay debt or something liddat, because yen rate is very low Because Yen have low interest 0.5%, so their "BLR" is low too, it is good to borrow the money fron Yen Banks and put into Stocks or high FD currency like AUD or NZD. Most people will borrow to buy stocks, for example, a local unit trust stock Fund manager took ur money and put into high interest FD like AUD or NZD, and he will use that money to borrow money from Yen Banks, *(hey I have xx amount of AUD or NZD how much I can borrow Yen). Then AUD NZD is like 7-8% FD, vs Yen 0.5%, even u factor in the BLR rate. U still earn money. So most hedge fund or big guys borrow yen to buy stocks. When stocks go UP, more demand to borrow Yen, Because when U buy Stock with Yen, u are actually selling Yen at the same time. In this case the Yen will depreciate, Hence all xxx/Jpy pairs goes up with stocks. When stock crash, everyone scared, they sell their stocks and demand for Yen. When u sell ur stocks u need to demand for Yen so u can settle ur LOAN from bank earlier. When demand of Yen increase, Yen goes up, Hence xxx/Jpy pairs crash. It is better for me sell my stock take small loss and buy back expensive Yen than Holding my stock for bigger loss + having bank to charge me LOAN interest over time. Stocks like Dow Jones, FTSE, DAX has a huge effects on Jpy. Because Americans and Europeans have bigger pockets |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 02:02 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,569 posts Joined: Sep 2006 From: Bermuda Triangle |
ya...what he say...
i think should be......borrow yen(sell yen) to buy usd/gbp/euro to buy stock..... i dont think anyone would accept yen when u try to buy US stock This post has been edited by dr2k3: Jul 2 2008, 02:07 PM |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 02:12 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,158 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
The Day Ahead Canada & U.S.: ADP Employment Report, Challenger Job Cuts
(CEP News) - Jobs will be on the minds of investors as two key employment reports will be released on Wednesday. Markets will get a look at the labour market with the release of ADP employment report ahead of Thursday's nonfarm payrolls data. Economists expect ADP to show a decrease of 20,000 jobs for June, following a 40,000 rise in May. does that means it will get -ve for NOnFarm? |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 02:15 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,522 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Mordor, Middle Earth. |
QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 2 2008, 02:02 PM) ya...what he say... U borrow yen, and with that amount of money u buy USD and buy USD stock. I am trying to cut the one out so it is simple enough in my explanation. i think should be......borrow yen(sell yen) to buy usd/gbp/euro to buy stock..... i dont think anyone would accept yen when u try to buy US stock |
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 02:17 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,081 posts Joined: Aug 2005 |
close d EJ positions for yesterday... waitin for clearer sign...
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 02:30 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
867 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: So Near Yet So Far |
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 2 2008, 01:54 PM) It is call carry Trades. I'll try explain in a quite layman term. so in short wordBecause Yen have low interest 0.5%, so their "BLR" is low too, it is good to borrow the money fron Yen Banks and put into Stocks or high FD currency like AUD or NZD. Most people will borrow to buy stocks, for example, a local unit trust stock Fund manager took ur money and put into high interest FD like AUD or NZD, and he will use that money to borrow money from Yen Banks, *(hey I have xx amount of AUD or NZD how much I can borrow Yen). Then AUD NZD is like 7-8% FD, vs Yen 0.5%, even u factor in the BLR rate. U still earn money. So most hedge fund or big guys borrow yen to buy stocks. When stocks go UP, more demand to borrow Yen, Because when U buy Stock with Yen, u are actually selling Yen at the same time. In this case the Yen will depreciate, Hence all xxx/Jpy pairs goes up with stocks. When stock crash, everyone scared, they sell their stocks and demand for Yen. When u sell ur stocks u need to demand for Yen so u can settle ur LOAN from bank earlier. When demand of Yen increase, Yen goes up, Hence xxx/Jpy pairs crash. It is better for me sell my stock take small loss and buy back expensive Yen than Holding my stock for bigger loss + having bank to charge me LOAN interest over time. Stocks like Dow Jones, FTSE, DAX has a huge effects on Jpy. Because Americans and Europeans have bigger pockets when japan stock exchange goes up... the pair xx/JPY will go up.. when the stock goes down.. the pairs xx/JPY will go down also.. rite? how about stocks like Dow Jones ,FTSE,DAX effect to pairs XX/JPY? |
|
Topic ClosedOptions
|
| Change to: | 0.0198sec
0.28
6 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 11:40 PM |