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post May 1 2008, 09:20 PM

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aiks...lowyat...your GU....but it still might have a chance to bounce back

ooh..what i meant was...in stock market, too many factors could influence the price. heck, even the currency index is able to affect the stock market. Need to consider too much. By the time done studying, the trend might have already formed... biggrin.gif

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post May 2 2008, 02:11 PM

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aah..it's another friday..so fast. EU just completed wave C..moving almost 200 pips shocking.gif

Would be interesting to look at UJ on monday, if today can break through 105.20...GU's drifting also seems to be exhausted...

wah..EJ EJ...possible violent drop to 160.50 hmm.gif
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post May 2 2008, 06:16 PM

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GJ er...long time didnt look at it...spread it too high for scalping le tongue.gif ...yeah...seems like it's moving up too..haha..tomorrow saturday..can take break.. biggrin.gif

ooh...thought you entered position during the peak...

hmm..i still see GU is goin down...here is why

on weekly chart...
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the price retraced on both of the 38.6% level, but was rejected on the vertical 23.6% level. Since then it has been testing to break through both 38.6% level.

on daily chart...
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doesnt look too bullish to me either. However, i didnt look at RSI or Stochastic...but the price changed its support level and consolidated. Wah...but today bounce back quite high...

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post May 2 2008, 08:37 PM

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lol...my positions on EU, GU, UJ all open and closed in less than 2 minutes...shot up like a super rocket...


Added on May 2, 2008, 8:41 pmhahaha...now see the price movement...lot of people are trying to join...most will be trapped...


Added on May 2, 2008, 8:46 pmlowyat...had to agree with you...first time i see price can move 100 pips in less than 5 minutes...but you can try use higher leverage to scalp on the corrections to salvage some losses


Added on May 2, 2008, 8:53 pmUS market just opened less than one hour...some jackass must be doing all this...

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post May 2 2008, 10:59 PM

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no le..if steel industry...i can help lar.. tongue.gif good good...cant wait for your comments...hard to find ppl to talk bout forex...all talk bout stocks sad.gif
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post May 3 2008, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 3 2008, 03:52 AM)
hmm... ur retracement line kinda diffrent from me though... coz i use tom demark's method....

this is my monthly chart, i cant use weekly chat to draw my retracement line coz d low i pick is vry to d left side...
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this is my reason y i enter, but too bad, i enter too early... didnt fully do a proper research...
1.busted pattern of triangle formation
2.retrace to 0.7071
3.volume at d left 'w' is much more than d current 'w' pattern
but d bad things is my weekly chart's zig zag still doesnt form a 'line' yet... so, it has d probability to go lower.
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btw, u also can talk ab stock market chart ma... test more of ur TA skill in diffrent market.. moreover got free software from chartnexus... jus do paper trade lor..
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ooh...interesting...on the same monthly chart, i use low at Jun 2001 & high at Nov 2007. The High/Low before/on 1985 seems not so useful, as the market has adapted the price 1992 to 2001. But i dont look much on monthly..no money to swing that long laugh.gif

As for scalping (GU now is damn good for scalping), i look at the daily chart. The last bar on the chart i posted was an up bar. Seeing that prices shifted its support level and bouncing on the level, i place a position just above the support line, and "wait and see".

but anyway, if you're looking at a daily/monthly chart, then your SL should be quite high ba...yesterday only drop bout <200 pips..your GU didnt kena SL ba..?


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post May 3 2008, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 3 2008, 10:06 AM)
wat u mean by this?

yar.. i use daily chart for this GU.. yup.... SL quite high... dats y i dun like higher time frame.. coz in between them sure got others swing.

oh, for GU, i didnt put my stop loss... my stop loss would b 2-3days below my 'caution line'. so its kind of subjective to put a certain price number..

i think ill take a rest for 1 week gua.. few straight losses. need some time to forget ab it though..huhuhu. for d meantime mayb will look at higher timeframe to see any chart formation been formed.
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ooh..what i meant was...In using Fibonacci, though using higher time interval shows more accuracy, but in this case of GU, from 1992 to 2001, the crowd have gotten used to the price, by means that it's no longer high or low. So, if using Fibonacci of high and low before 1985, the retracement level is not that much of reliable.

try to look at EU...if can, try to use Fib Fan as well..i found it to be quite useful..
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 3 2008, 01:33 PM)
but wat ab EU? people not get used to it??
wow.. interestin... for EU, its act has head n shoudler formation...min TP is 1.8XXX!! d prob is, wat price we shud join in... btw, dun forget its stated publicly d G7 group will intervent if USD gettin more n more weak...

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edited: aww.. my mistgake... no data for EU for date time...huhuuh.. y leh no data??
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aiks..i was going to say that EU will start its correction soon after hitting 1.600...Yesterday night's sudden movement was partially done by their central bank by buying more USD. So, the feds are rather desperate now. It would be rather hard for the price to go near 1.600 as it's a rather important phycological level of resistance, while the price is still in an uncharted area since Sep 1992 (high 1.4575). The next nearest extension level is at 1.8015...so if price does attack 1.600 again, firmly go long till 1.800 biggrin.gif

but i believe US will not let that happen le...if USD keep falling...the Japs will also cry...lol

if i were to trade on a monthly chart..i'll go short on 1.5390 and limit till 1.5020 or 1.5030.

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post May 3 2008, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 3 2008, 03:09 PM)
yar... will retrace.. no doubt... my TP for downtrend still not hit yet leh.. uhuhu.. waitin for long term holdin..

btw, if they keeps buyin usd, they r fightin d trend... which will cause them whole lots n lots of capital..not a briliant move.. i belief a lot of countries will transfer money to stronger pairs.
IMHO, i think d best way to do is change d 'money language'...  let d usd heal itself... d problem in us there is far from over n every1 knows dat..
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haha...yeah. The banks keep pumping in money...soon enough they'll have tonnes inside the bank with no where to run...then we'll see inflation. either way, USD up or down, traders still make money... rclxms.gif earn USD, use in RM...hohoho
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the other day my friend told me...he was using chartnexus, and he need to pay to use MA200...lol...you guys found those addon indicator packages useful?
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hmm...i wonder if historical data will be of importance in forex...or until the year Euro comes out is good enough...
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post May 4 2008, 02:57 PM

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from the weekly chart...taking low at Aug07 bout 0.75, and high at Feb08 bout 1.95...the Fibs would be 50%@1.35, 61.8%@1.49, 76.4%@1.67

there was quite some congestion on Jul07. You see the upmove on early 08, it pass through the congestion zone with no prob. now the price is recovering, with the earlier upmove on early 08, it shouldnt have much prob passing this congestion area again.

As for the recent congestion at Feb08, that is also around 1.67, is about the high during Jun07 and May06. So the critical retracement level is 76.4%. If the high on Feb08 is a new high, i will sell it on 1.60 le...may be crashing down once hitting 1.67...the price would bounce around the intermediate MA first, before going 1.60

see the price move on mid Jan08, after reaching 1.67, the upmove actually shows sign of weakness le...the further extension is mostly caused by momentum...can slightly confirm this by looking at oversold at RSI and the lower volume..if you can find is there's any previous high/low..then better..try draw Fib Fan on the low in Jul and high in Feb..

dunno la...i'm still an amature on tech analysis...lol


Added on May 4, 2008, 6:29 pmoh no...lowyat...i just downloaded chartnexus...look at the attachment. Both Fibs are taken on same high/low. I believe it would be rather bearish soon..this is why:

1) Candlestick: shooting star followed by doji

2) Bearish Flag formation

3) Resistance at 61.8% fan line

4) Lowering on both RSI and Stochastic while prices moving up

I dont think the price could reach 1.60 at all, unless there're any good news

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post May 4 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 4 2008, 07:54 PM)
@small-jeff
Bearish Flag formation is wat?  tongue.gif

thanks for d analysis...

btw, for d candlestick part,

my software analyse it  21-4-2008 as spinning tops, black -> reversal 51% of d time
i dunno much candlesticks n nowadays vry less use indicator...

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if u see this 1, it was above 1.43 for 3bar, for me its good sign.. moreover, d reduction of volume traded reduce alot,it shows, smart money is not dumpin alot of shares. they r actually clearin people who still stuck at above..

my cut loss woulb b if it close below 1.43 for 1-2bar or close below d triangle.
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hm..to me..smart people always knows where the direction of the chart is going de..they only make false BO to trap ppl so ppl will believe there's a reversal or something, after that, the chart will go back to its supposed to be direction...so, knowing the direction of the price, can sometimes ignore that there're smart money le.. biggrin.gif IMO, usually flag is caused by market makers, giving false impression of reversal...but sometimes, a flag can become a reversal rclxub.gif

haha..at least use RSI or Stochastic ba...you dont want long when it's overbought biggrin.gif

QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 4 2008, 08:56 PM)
MT4 got volume.. u can right click d price window n choose properties, then tick volume in price chart

no forex for chartnexus tongue.gif


Added on May 4, 2008, 9:08 pm@ small jeff,
it seems ur fan does work in klse... mind share wit me wat book it contains much ab this topic ka... or u jus brief me how to make it work... thanks.. tongue.gif
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haha...Fibs and Gann works in every market prices. I read through "Fibonacci and Gann Applications in Financial Markets - George A. Maclean", and also the ebook you recommended biggrin.gif but i still havent really been able to apply Gann's tools yet tongue.gif

Fib fan is applied like Fib retracement. Usually i'll apply it in various time frames' high/low, both the vertical retracement and the fan together, then compare the retracement level of different time frame. From there, you'll see how easy/difficult is it for the price to make its directional movement. However, Fibs are only good when the market is rather volatile or moving relatively violent (IMO lar)..if the price is channelling; sideways, bearish of bullish, not so good to apply..

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hm..tomorrow took leave...see how to trade during day time..hahaha

efit: lowyat..can understand what i explained ar? i read back...also feel confused myself..lol

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post May 5 2008, 12:31 AM

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the fan part...

you also very strong ar...here trade forex...there trade stock... biggrin.gif aih..tomorrow looks quite difficult for EU and UJ sad.gif

anyway...if you're interested in the book, pm me your email ba...

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go for brokers that have ready made indicator packages, then let it automatically trade for you, and you'll be millionaire soon... whistling.gif tongue.gif forex very easy to earn money rclxms.gif whistling.gif


Added on May 5, 2008, 5:48 pmlowyat...why the chartnexus still at 2/5/08 ar? wont update one? or have to wait till the market closes first?

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post May 5 2008, 07:16 PM

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lowyat...your ramunia still open ar? another doji leh...the attack on the 61.8% fan has failed


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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 5 2008, 07:25 PM)
in daily chart?
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yeah...bad sign...haha..this thread should change to TA+FA thread biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Gaara92 @ May 5 2008, 07:39 PM)
GJ, down until this night... huhu~

Signal generated By Forex Killer v2.0
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the down move has already completed. It would be rather difficult to pass through the previous congestive zone. Price might rally a little or direct rebounce, and consolidate until breaking any resistance/support.


Added on May 5, 2008, 7:51 pmand can you stop advertizing Forex Killer?

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post May 5 2008, 08:14 PM

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what is H and S? lol...

If EU can break through 1.5470..it might go bullish...but for the time being...still bearish.. biggrin.gif USD go strong good...more RM...hahaha
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ May 5 2008, 08:16 PM)
head n shoulder..  tongue.gif
yar, dat d price need to break in order to form H n S in 1hr chart...
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lol...i totally missed out on H&S...you're good at spotting patterns thumbup.gif

but i think it would be short lived (up move)...immediate resistace at 1.5515...

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