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post Apr 3 2008, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 3 2008, 08:24 PM)
wth?? EU went bearish????
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mayb bcoz of this.. Retail Sales m/m -0.5%



anyway, i strongly suggest u guys go to d basics of chart.. dat is d oldest analysis.. tape readin... we must learn d basics of it 1st..not jus cross here n there...



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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 3 2008, 09:48 PM)
tape reading? hm..how's it like?


Added on April 3, 2008, 9:52 pmyen also got bullish...
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DISCOVERING WHAT TAPE READING REALLY IS
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The principles of tape reading date back nearly 400 years to the beginning
of commodity speculation. Whenever there is disagreement on the perceived
or intrinsic value of a product, there is cause for speculation about
where that price will move. Principles of tape reading take you right to the
heart of this speculative arena. They match price movement to crowd
behavior in the form of a rate of volume.
Tape readers see price movement in relation to the rate of volume
and can determine when the footprints of stock action are made. Tape
reading allows one to understand the actions of the minority and eventually
the majority when it climbs in. These principles are applied to an
individual security's behavior and to the broader market trend's behavior.
Why a stock is moving is not an issue. The evaluation is concentrated on
where it is moving and how far it can move in that direction. Trading tips
often don't pan out, and news creates countertrends to what is deemed
logical. This is where tape reading saves us from our ego and ourselves.
The truth of stock movement lies in the tape, not in our ego.
Over the past years, we have watched thousands of traders bring new
methodology to the marketplace. There is literally a system for every
speculative tool available. A few of these systems are quite good, and others
are just plain ridiculous. However, with the advent of the great bull
market of the 1990s and Internet mania, even the mediocre system could
produce fairly good results assuming it didn't dictate going short on any
new high. This is where the beginners' understanding of market reality,
which was far from true reality, lead them to great losses. This is what
happened during the bear market of Nasdaq in 2000-2002. What worked
even 1 year ago doesn't necessarily work today in the majority of these
systems. However, it is clear that one system has stood the test of time.
More interesting, no one had been teaching it.
Tape-reading principles, having been around for 400 years, have
seen every possible market there is, and they continue to produce consistent
results in bear and bull markets. As you can see, Jesse Livermore's
principles and understanding of market behavior need to be taught to the
trading community, but not in a way that we have ever seen before.
With something so universal that has stood the test of time, it's
necessary to revive an in-depth understanding of how tape-reading principles
can take us to the root of price and rate of volume. They show us
the footprints of the minority and how to capitalize on the irrationality
of the crowd when it finally figures out what the minority already
knows.

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Apr 3 2008, 10:27 PM)
tq for the explanation....appreciate that....
now im studying about volume...seems a little bit hard...
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yar.. at 1st its kinda difficult to learn... but if u can master it, u r good.... i noe how it works. but dunno how to explain though... there r 2 books ab this dat i read...Techniques of Tape Reading by VADYM GRAIFER n CHRISTOPHER SCHUMACHER ... another 1 is Undeclared Stockmarket Secrets by Tom Williams


Added on April 3, 2008, 10:58 pmuhuhuh,... GU is headin higher ^.^

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 3 2008, 11:47 PM)
hmm....it makes more sense than the way i trade...but fxcm doesnt have a volume indicator..

lowyat...the books you mentioned MPH got?
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dunno... i download it though tongue.gif


Added on April 4, 2008, 12:47 amclose one of 2 positions d for GU... 78pips in da pocket... uhuhhu

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 01:53 AM)
lowyat...where did you get the volume indicator? couldnt find it ler..

btw...nice profit man...
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thanks... jus lucky to spot nice pattern..

d volume indicator suppose any software shud got.. its d most basic thing though... d volume is actually direct generated from ur broker's company.. so it may vary... if not mistaken, its not how many lots people buy, but is how many times d ticker hit a certain price...
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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 02:13 AM)
hmm? i tried using ODL...couldnt see the indicator also...?
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huh? got ma... 'volume' .. anyway, dats d basic one... i use volume coupled wit SMA to diffrentiate high n low volume..
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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 01:25 PM)
hmm...another question.. tongue.gif just found where the volume is, thought it was inside the "Studies" options. Anyway, when i got it out, it seems to be empty on all periods..what's wrong?
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hmm? any screen shot?

mayb u need to scroll to left side... coz d data not save in ur pc yet gua...

btw, i jus take profit 50pips for GU, open position this afternoon.. tongue.gif

still got one open position left... ^.^ mayb take it within today coz tonight goin bc hometown for 'ching meng'


Added on April 4, 2008, 6:08 pmclose d.... another 223pips in d pocket.... time to hav a rest... 1 week -> $680++ nett profit.. 680 x 3=rm2k... hmm... really hope i can control my emotion so can earn more n more money...

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 06:56 PM)
nice nice...1 month can gain back your capital...save the money and open a standard acc...then...super rich..

anyway...went to MPH just now..dont have any books on tape reading. Just a bunch of senseless books, which starts to explain what is doji after 3/4 of the book..hmm..guess have to buy the ebook..

i did briefly read through quite an interesting book though..title "candlesticks and pivot points"..
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by john L person? i also got read it, but not d candlesticks part tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hitokiri_maniac @ Apr 4 2008, 08:53 PM)
i guessing u open not juz one lot everytime u open trade at particular pair.. multiple lot rite?double edge sword... if u profit u will profit double.. if u loss u loss also double unsure.gif
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err... nope smile.gif

d onli time i open more than 1 position is when it move really far from my buyin price or when i hav confident level around 85%.... hmmm... hmm.gif mayb i shud say 90%... like GU for this 1-2days... now for GU hit d uppertrend line...

anyway, still rememb i said ab GU? yar, dat 1 i go against my rules... dat is open position to average d losin position..


Added on April 4, 2008, 9:36 pm
QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 07:34 PM)
wah...you bought so many books...is it good? couldnt remember the author though..
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i didnt read all of it, therefore i cant comment tongue.gif

i downlaod it actually..huhhhuuh dats d good thing of internet tongue.gif


btw, still rememb wat i said ab triangle? watch out for GU, but bkful fake 1..

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 4 2008, 11:59 PM)
hmm...been having some troubles in these few days trading, the US situation caused much distortion. Really need to redefine how to set entry point...

lowyat..you bought all those ebooks?
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free 1 lar... huhuhu... tongue.gif learnin dun need to b expensive, but learnin control emotion need money sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 5 2008, 12:38 AM)
sigh..been trying to find..cant find free ones...can email to me ar? tongue.gif
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uhuhuhu brows.gif brows.gif

btw,jus finish scalpin around for ciggy tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Apr 5 2008, 02:53 AM)
ciggy? what pair is that? errr.. or u mean ciggarettes?  laugh.gif
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yup... uhuhuh tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2008, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Apr 5 2008, 03:01 AM)
hey bro . how long have u been on demo account before turning into live account?

what's the profit percentage over your total margin now? thumbup.gif
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hmm.... been using demo since 2 years ago.. but testin for 1month onli... then stop... after dat when i start workin, my colleague teach me ab stock market.. not doin good... infact damn bad...

so, i test my knowledge in forex to see how far i can go... so test demo again for 2-3months..

profit percentage r? hmm... let me see, dunno how to calculate leh tongue.gif but for now, 687/2000 x 100= 30+% . i belief i will eventually lose some money.. but hopefully i can control my emotion to cut loss...
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Apr 5 2008, 03:34 AM)
way to go bro...   thumbup.gif  hey bro, i just wanna ask .. been seeing u guys talk about wat wat wat fa, macd, ma, ta etc etc... where do u guys learn all tis from.. i m reading babypips now and still havent get to any part that reveal these.... are all of these things included in babypips.. i assume that u had read tru babypips rite?

and also i read the article u posted about tape reading.. u reckon that's important?
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babypips is for beginner... yup... read it twice d... but not really like things ab d few last chapthers tongue.gif

tape readin? hmm... it depends.. for me, its important.. coz i use it wat tongue.gif
anyway, since its d oldest chart analysis, so i guess its important smile.gif

actually, tape readin is jus principle...IMHO, u need to couple it wit other stuff...

jus take profit for UJ by short it... need to wait nearly2 hours..... 37pips = 36.44x3=rm100+.. belief still can go down though, but need to sleep, tomolo go bc hometown...zzzzzz


Added on April 5, 2008, 4:04 am
QUOTE(Kazachok @ Apr 5 2008, 03:41 AM)
since you guys had used the demo for a long time, what do u think about it? does it resemblance the real thing?
i mean the difficulty, odds etc.
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difficulties r? dunno... but i belief there got difffrent between type of acc, if ur account is standard, u get easily filled / execution...

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Apr 5 2008, 04:07 AM)
nice 1 there bro.... seems like u are on a nearly winning all your trades... or are you keeping the losing 1s to yourself?  tongue.gif keep up the goodwork man, have a safe journey home tomorrow... gotta sleep now too..bye
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thanks btw..

smile.gif still doin good though, anyway i already prepare d risk invovle by doin business in forex.. but jus advices, if we loss a big amount of money bcoz of holdin it too long/ bad trades, try our best to forgot ab it asap.. if u can do dat, u r good to go.. blush.gif



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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 5 2008, 02:26 PM)
even though i'm only demo...this week has been the worst week for the past 2 months. So many flags forming here and there  rclxub.gif . So far we see lowyat getting his wallet thicker and thicker  notworthy.gif
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huhu... every tactics has its time ma... but when bad times arrive, risk management play important role..



hmm... time to find nice chart pattern again... hmm.gif hmm.gif

let see whether i can make another usd700+...
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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 6 2008, 09:38 PM)
lowyat..ask you something er...by means of tape reading, does it means reading the chart itself in the lowest time frame?

yeah...bad times = just sit back and drink coffee + smoke


Added on April 6, 2008, 9:38 pmps. good luck this week biggrin.gif
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tape readin can b done in any timeframe..

here is d major principle..


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Added on April 6, 2008, 10:05 pmIMHO, d principle is normal onli.... wat is important is d key word.. strength, weaness, sellin climax, buyin climax bla bla bla...most of d time, i use tape readin for scalpin purpose onli.. or for entry purpose...

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 7 2008, 12:29 AM)
thanks...nice article...and i found a trend which seems to be like what is described in it (1hr chart)...must order that book soon sad.gif

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however, it does looks like a channel to me. A and B is rather confusing to me, however, the pattern on C and D is being rather clear. But looking at what happens after D, a crossover occured after several hours of weak buying which seems to be a signal of trend continuation.

Hm..suddenly i got so lost after trying to do more studies onto this...lol...
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IMHO, in order to work, ur 1hr chart must collerate wit other time frame..

if u wan order book, i think u better order d book by tom williams, x stock operator..a vry good book i must say.. if u really wan d Techniques of Tape Reading's book, i can try email.. but its kinda big file 4mb+... btw, i didnt finish readin dat book though tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jebonen @ Apr 7 2008, 10:15 AM)
For the morning tread... sikit sikit lama2 jadi gunung.... biggrin.gif  smile.gif
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good good... happy tradin ^.^


this morning open 1 position for UC... d rest still waitin for any clear chart pattern...


Added on April 7, 2008, 5:13 pmjus close position for NU... 30+4pips in d pocket... still got 1 open position for UC... crap, slow movin counter... T.T

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 7 2008, 06:10 PM)
so how's the trade today so far? good profits?


Added on April 7, 2008, 6:29 pm

"x stock operator - tom williams"? tried to search amazon, couldnt find any...hmm...seems like it's important to understand the market sentiment...sometimes it does give a signal of when a major report is coming out...can serve as an indicator as well.

bro..if you have time, pls email me ya..hm..actually books in amazon also quite cheap..unlike those stupid local stores..
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today ok lor...got usd34... mayb take profit too early.. uhuhhu.. well, at least it already hit my minimum TP... wink.gif

still holdin UC...

hmm.. dunno leh, i cant send to u tom williams's book... 22.7mb... sweat.gif sweat.gif unless u stay vry near to me.. tongue.gif

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