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post Feb 1 2008, 10:57 AM, updated 11y ago

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Source (IMDB) --> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/
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Bilbo Baggins, a Hobbit, journeys to the Lonely Mountain accompanied by a group of dwarfs to reclaim a treasure taken from them by the dragon Smaug.

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Del Toro to take charge of The Hobbit

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.


Some small news:
- The Hobbit is divided into 2 movies.
- Elijah Woods is confirmed to be returning for these new movies.

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At least Peter Jackson would be involved... I'm eagerly awaiting for another adaptation of a Tolkien masterpiece. Who'll play Bilbo?
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great news....

let's hope they will produce 'the silmarillion' after 'the hobbit'
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QUOTE(Wokuman @ Feb 1 2008, 05:07 PM)
great news....

let's hope they will produce 'the silmarillion' after 'the hobbit'
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Story about the elves oso okay.
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QUOTE(irkuysm @ Feb 1 2008, 11:11 PM)
Story about the elves oso okay.
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Pan's Labyrinth was great! Tragic but great. Can't wait to see this one.. biggrin.gif
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marvelous choice.. thumbup.gif i'm happy that Peter finally resolved it with New Line Cinema.. any director that could make something so powerful and exhileratingly magical as Pans' Labyrinth would do amazing things with The Hobbit.. can't wait..
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Sir Ian McKellen on The Hobbit Films

Will Sir Ian McKellen reprise his Oscar-nominated role of Gandalf in "The Lord of the Rings" prequels The Hobbit and its sequel? McKellen says it's pretty likely on his latest official E-Post:

Q: So has it come to pass, good Sir McKellen? Shall the dreaming masses with their musty books and their blackened pipes at long last hear those immortal words issue from under that famous nose? "Yes, yes, my dear sir-and I know your name, Mr. Bilbo Baggins. And you do know my name, though you don't remember that I belong to it. I am Gandalf, and Gandalf means me! To think I should have lived to be good-morninged by Belladonna Took's son, as if I was selling buttons at the door!" Looking about, I find I share the same hopes as millions of others, so I ask, a single query in a chorus... Will you again be our Gandalf in "The Hobbit" now that the deal is settled?

A: Yes I will, if Peter Jackson and I have anything to do with it, he being the producer and me being, on the whole, a very lucky actor. I've just read your quote out loud - fabulous speech.

Q: Have you been approached yet by Peter Jackson or anyone else about reprising your wonderful role as Gandalf for the two upcoming "Hobbit" movies. I read that principal photography begins in 2009, and I can't imagine those movies without you!

A: Encouragingly, Peter and Fran Walsh have told me they couldn't imagine The Hobbit without their original Gandalf. Their confidence hasn't yet been confirmed by the director Guillermo del Toro but I am keeping my diary free for 2009!

Warner Bros.' New Line is planning 2010 and 2011 releases for the two films.

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with Del Toro, no doubt middle earth will be interesting. No shortage of creature cuz Del Toro is famed for monster movie. Most (if not all) of his movies, either direct or produce have a dark theme. It'll be another fun ride this time.

2010 and 2011... seems like a long time to come.

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wow, del toro + jackson what else can a fantasy fan ask for?
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QUOTE(Wokuman @ Feb 1 2008, 05:07 PM)
great news....

let's hope they will produce 'the silmarillion' after 'the hobbit'
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it is great that guillermo del toro will direct the hobbit rclxms.gif
wondering which actor will potray bilbo baggins?? tongue.gif

it will be a HUGE task if they were to produce the sirmarillion...hope it will happen in the future drool.gif

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QUOTE(Wokuman @ Feb 1 2008, 05:07 PM)
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let's hope they will produce 'the silmarillion' after 'the hobbit'
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I feel Silmarillion isn't suitable to be remade into a movie. Unlike The Hobbit or LotR it doesn't have a central theme. It's almost like a history book for Middle Earth laugh.gif
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I feel Silmarillion isn't suitable to be remade into a movie. Unlike The Hobbit or LotR it doesn't have a central theme. It's almost like a history book for Middle Earth laugh.gif
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I'm trying to read this book. Unfortunately, I failed. Until now also I dunno wat this book all about.. laugh.gif
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really??

the sirmarillion is one of my fav books of all time....
really like the historical stuff abt middle earth and the origins of the elves,men and dwarves and also hobbits...


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I'm trying to read this book. Unfortunately, I failed. Until now also I dunno wat this book all about.. laugh.gif
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It's not an easy read I have to admit. It took me quite a while to finish the book as well. And I'm quite a fast reader tongue.gif
The book basically documents how Middle Earth was formed (literally laugh.gif), and alot of stories about the 1st and 2nd age (LOTR is 3rd age iinm). It's not a book I would recommend reading. It's more for LotR fanatics. But it just shows the attention to detail Tolkien put to Middle Earth that he had written what's essentially the bible of it. tongue.gif
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It's Official: Guillermo del Toro to Direct The Hobbit!

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed on to direct the New Line/MGM's The Hobbit and its sequel, reports Variety.

The widely expected announcement came Thursday afternoon jointly from executive producers Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, New Line president Toby Emmerich, and Mary Parent, newly named chief of MGM's Worldwide Motion Picture Group.

Del Toro's moving to New Zealand for the next four years to work with Jackson and his Wingnut and Weta production teams. He'll direct the two films back to back, with the sequel dealing with the 60-year period between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, the first of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.

New Line is overseeing development and will manage production. Both films are being co-produced and co-financed by New Line Cinema and MGM, with Warner Bros. distributing domestically and MGM handling international.

Del Toro won't leave for New Zealand immediately as he's still in post-production on Universal's "Hellboy II," due out in July.

The official signing of Del Toro comes four months after New Line settled a lawsuit with Jackson over "The Lord of the Rings" and announced that it had agreed with MGM to turn J.R.R. Tolkien's "Hobbit" into two live-action films.

The studios didn't give a start date on production and don't yet have a script. Though no screenplay deal's been set, it's expected that the LOTR scripting team of Jackson, Walsh and Philippa Boyens will collaborate with Del Toro.

With Del Toro blocking out four years for the project, it's likely that the studios are aiming at starting shooting next year and releasing the films in late 2011 and 2012.

Jackson's WETA stages, post-production and visual effects facilities -- built for "The Lord of the Rings" -- will be used for both films. And New Zealand will again be the site of Middle-earth, with the story centering on Bilbo Baggins taking the Ring of Power from Gollum.


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Del Toro is one of my respected young directors. Looking forward to these 2 movies.

By the way, the studio is New Line Cinema, they have come to an agreement with MGM about the rights.
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Omg, why would Elijah Wood be in The Hobbit? He's not even born yet...

Anyway, as much as I really enjoy The Hobbit, Silmarillion pawns 'em all. PJ can simply pluck any of the chapters in there and it'll make a good movie.

I would dearly wish to see them make a movie out of Quenta Silmarillion - the war between Melkor and Elves but I think that alone might take another 2-3 movies. laugh.gif

Anyway, Beren and Luthien's arc might make a very good romantic movie. laugh.gif Wonder who will they find to portray Luthien if they really ever gonna make a movie out of the arc. She's the fairest of all the elves
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Ian McKellen & Andy Serkis basically confirmed, in discussion with Alan Lee & Howard Shore

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In an exclusive interview with TheOneRing.net, Guillermo del Toro talks about Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Howard Shore, Animatronics vs CGI, the tone of the upcoming Hobbit films and much more!

How did this whole process get started?

GDT: I met Peter (Jackson) a long time ago when we were planning on doing Halo together, I really love how they have that setup in New Zealand, I call it Hollywood the way God intended it. New Zealand has all the technical advantages when doing a big movie and you are shooting it in paradise, both in terms of artistic freedom and commitment.

When Halo didnt happen, Peter and I stayed in contact on a regular basis, and last winter I started getting inklings that The Hobbit may come this way, mainly from the studio. The first thing I said was that I would only be interested if Peter was involved and the (New Line Lawsuit) problem gets resolved. When that issue was resolved I got a call from Peter and we chatted, and it started from then, it was my Christmas gift!

Fans are all abuzz about The Second Film, can you tell some of your plans for it?

GDT: You know, I traveled to New Zealand just a little while ago, and one of the main reasons for going was to sit down and talk about the second film. The Hobbit, the book, is really one self-contained film, so for the second movie we sat down and worked it out. When we did this we got really excited because this second film is not a tag on, its not filler, its an integral part of telling the story of those 50 years of history lost in the narrative. There will be certain things that we will see from the first movie but from a different point of view, but it will feel like a volume, in the 5 volumes of the entire story. It will not feel like a bridge, Ive been hearing it called a bridge film, its not, its an integral chapter of the story, and I think were all on the same page.

You will be moving down to New Zealand for 4 years, is that right?

GDT: Approximately, my whole family, but the first stages of design and R&D will be done with me going back and fourth from LA and New Zealand because there are a lot of things I need to put to bed before I finally move to New Zealand. Im going much sooner than my relatives would like!

We will officially be doing a lot of prep on The Hobbit this summer, there is so much to do, its amazing. Just the reforestation of The Shire, re planting all those trees and plants will take months, and were going to be as exact as possible.

Films like Pans Labyrinth used a few studio sets to simulate outdoors, will you be doing the same for The Hobbit or will you be making use of New Zealands wilderness like Peter did?

GDT: I think green screen photography is exactly like CGI, it is a tool, I dont think it should be overused. Things like Pans Labyrinth and The Devils Backbone are incredibly dependent on location, we shot on location for more than half the time. Those locations can be enhanced by technology however, both digital and physical. What I would like to avoid is the recreation of the natural environments in CG, I dont like doing that. The movie is essentially a journey movie, I think you need to use locations as much as possible.

Youll be using WETA Digital for the effects?

GDT: Yes, the essential elements for keeping continuity are on track, in the last few weeks Ive been chatting with a ton of people via email, phone, and in person from the previous films. People like Andy Serkis, Sir Ian McKellen, Howard Shore, John Howe, Gino Acevedo, Richard Taylor next week Im meeting Alan Lee. Im doing this to ensure that whatever we do we keep continuity with the other films, yes its a world that is slightly more golden at the beginning, a very innocent environment.

What Im trying to do is keep the elements in place but allow you to feel a progression from The Hobbit until The Return of the King. I believe The Hobbit is a very crucial volume in The Lord of the Rings, it is a narrative that starts out very much in an innocent and golden way. It is permeated from England going through World War One, so there is a loss of innocence and a darker tone as the book and the film progresses. Well be doing that in the first film, taking you from a time of more purity to a darker reality throughout the film, but I think that is in the spirit of the book. All these guys, Alan Lee, John Howe, these guys are integral for us to map out that progress in the two movies, and allow you to completely blend in to the universe that is already in place. But this will be a progression, it should not feel at the start of the film that this is the same time (as the beginning of Fellowship). 50 years in Shire time, is not the same as 50 years in human time, if you think about how our world has changed in only 7 or 8 years, you can think of it as decades of turmoil, those 50 years in Middle-earth.

Do you have any roles cast?

GDT: Well, I had the most charming meeting with Sir Ian, and all bureaucracy pending, hes on board, as is Andy Serkis. We will continue giving you progress reports as the occur. It is our intention that we will not lose any of the key elements.

What will differ from your films versus Peters?

The only thing I will be pushing for more in these films that the other three are full animatronics and animatronic creatures enhanced with CGI, as opposed to CGI creatures themselves. We really want to take the state-of-the-art animatronics and take a leap ten years into the future with the technology we will develop for the creatures in the movie. We have every intention to do for animatronics and special effects what the other films did for virtual reality.

Another thing people will notice, at the beginning of the film will be the palette, that will be slightly different, the world will be the same but it will be a more golden world, a more wide-eyed world. But by no means will we depart from the canon, we will take the three previous films as canon. When I become part of a world that I love, such as this, I really come with a lot of enthusiasm and hard work, and we know we are recreating and creating a world that is part of the mythos of millions of people and we will approach it as passionately and respectfully as it needs to be taken.


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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 26 2008, 08:10 AM)
Omg, why would Elijah Wood be in The Hobbit? He's not even born yet...

Anyway, as much as I really enjoy The Hobbit, Silmarillion pawns 'em all. PJ can simply pluck any of the chapters in there and it'll make a good movie.

I would dearly wish to see them make a movie out of Quenta Silmarillion - the war between Melkor and Elves but I think that alone might take another 2-3 movies. laugh.gif

Anyway, Beren and Luthien's arc might make a very good romantic movie. laugh.gif Wonder who will they find to portray Luthien if they really ever gonna make a movie out of the arc. She's the fairest of all the elves
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Hey im quite interested with the upcoming movie the hobbit. But can i know what is 'silmarillion'?
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silmarillion is part of the three books, about the story of the founding of middle earth, and how evil came to be, how man and elves and dwarves were born, how orcs were created, how Sauron was just a kuci kuci evil lieutenant for a much more powerful evil bugger.

not many can read it, cuz its written in shakespearean style. thee thou prithee nay

but i love it. lol

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The Silmarillion is the prequel to The Hobbit and LOTR. It contains several arcs -

Of Ainulindale and Valaquenta :
The 'birth' of Elves, the creation of Middle-Earth, and the 'betrayal' of Melkor who turned his back to Iluvatar (the creator of all things) and turned to darkness - bringing along with him the Balrogs and his trustred aide, Sauron.

Quenta Silmarillion - The First Age of Middle-Earth
This arc is mostly centered on the Silmarils and explains in details how Elves made their way to Middle-Earth. Also depicted in this arc is the awesome battles between Melkor and the Elves and the love between a Man and Elf, Beren and Luthien.

Akallabeth
This arc depicts the creation and fall of the Numenors (Aragorn's ancestors - Men gifted with the Elves' long lives). Sauron plays a bigger part here.

The Rings of Power and the Third Age
Mainly depicts the Second and Third Age of Middle-Earth. It explains in detail the creation of the Rings of Power and how he secretly forged the "One Who Will Rule Them All" ring.







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Jackson & Del Toro to Hold Online Hobbit Chat!

We'll let Weta do the talking for the hottest party invite yet this year...

An Unexpected Party

Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro invite you to a live internet chat about The Hobbit.

Peter and Guillermo would love to answer your questions and hear your comments about our new adventure into Middle-Earth. Please register to make sure you don't miss out on the Unexpected Party and get regular updates on the movies.

Weta are excited to be hosting this one-hour live online chat on our website. Please check the start time for your time zone below:

Los Angeles (Pacific) - Saturday, May 24 at 1pm
New York (Eastern) - Saturday, May 24 at 4pm
London - Saturday, May 24 at 9pm
Paris, Berlin, Rome - Saturday, May 24 at 10pm
Sydney - Sunday, May 25 at 6am
Wellington, Auckland - Sunday, May 25 at 8am


Before you register, you can read Peter's personal invitation here!

Now, to register and submit your question in advance, go here!

The Hobbit is expected to hit theaters in 2010 followed by its sequel in 2011.

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Pre-production is about to get under way on The Hobbit and its sequel, says Variety.

Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens are expected to write the scripts under the direction of Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro. Preliminary contact has already been made with at least three actors whose "Lord of the Rings" characters also appear in the "Hobbit" storyline: Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn), Ian McKellen (Gandalf) and Andy Serkis (Gollum).

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"We will all be involved in the script in some fashion but the exact definition is about a week away, " said del Toro. "I am all for keeping the actors who originated the parts, as much as availability and their willingness will allow."

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Liv Tyler Talks The Hobbit
Will Arwen make an appearance in the new films?

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IGN caught up with actress Liv Tyler yesterday in New York City to discuss her new horror film The Strangers, but while we had her pointy Elven ear we just had to ask her about whether or not she'll be returning to the Lord of the Rings universe as Arwen for the upcoming pair of recently announced Hobbit films.

"Somebody just said to me, 'Has your agent called Peter Jackson yet?'" says the actress with a laugh. "And I was like, 'Whoa. What are you talking about?' [The reporter] was so aggressive. It's so funny the way people think and see [these things]. Someone just told me now that [director] Guillermo del Toro was doing it and that they're going to split it into two films, which will be The Hobbit plus some sort of a bridge to The Lord of the Rings. As far as I know, Arwen and Aragorn are not in The Hobbit, or definitely aren't in it. But I don't know yet."

While Tyler points out that Arwen does not show up in the book version of The Hobbit, the so-called bridge film could be another matter altogether.


"It's very interesting and I guess I should try to find out," she says. "I'm curious because there were all those other books like The Silmarillion. And the appendix, that's where they got the whole idea for my part, just from the appendix. There's so much other amazing stuff."

She says she is definitely onboard for a return appearance if del Toro and producer Peter Jackson invite her.

"Oh, are you kidding?" she says when asked. "In a heartbeat! I'll buy my own ticket and be on the plane in a second. I mean, that was a magical experience and it was just a once in a lifetime, amazing [thing]. Because it was so like we knew and we didn't know that it was sort of something that had never been done before, and there was this feeling that was really gung-ho. Like, 'O.K., let's go off together!' And we just rolled our sleeves up. It really was this amazing, crazy, special thing."

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i only remember Bilbo, Gandalf, the dwarves, Smeagol, Smaug & Beorn from the book. but from the look of things it looks more like a reunion to me...

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 22 2008, 12:11 AM)
i only remember Bilbo, Gandalf, the dwarves, Smeagol, Smaug & Beorn from the book. but from the look of things it looks more like a reunion to me...

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Exactly. Why is Aragorn gonna be in the movie? Shouldn't we have a glimpse of Gimli instead? After all, the dwarves were involved as well but not Aragorn. I do hope that they don't throw in the LOTR characters into the Hobbit for 'reunion's' sake.
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Its just like Liv Tyler had mentioned, the book contains so much more exciting things to offer, other characters that were not mentioned in the book would look like "hey what are they doing here?" laugh.gif

I guess *maybe* Del Toro will bring the old casts back, but just minor roles or cameo.

However.
If they appear only as minor roles & follow the book.
Film critics *might* not like it.
Fans will love it.

If they go make an entirely updated version from the book.
Film critics *might* like it.
Fans will definitely disagree.

Eitherway, the first 3 movies are not entirely following the books anyway, there are parts where they had to change to suit movie choreographic-style and to make it much more presentable to viewers, especially those that had never read the books.
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Yeah, like what happen during Battle of Helms Deep. laugh.gif In the book, there are no other Elven archers besides Legolas present. Legolas merely wishes that they had a hundred archers of Mirkwood with them during the battle.

And, that 's what PJ did. Legolas wish has come true. laugh.gif
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i do hope del Toro will portray the dwarves in a much better light compared to Gimli in LOTR. making fun of dwarves because of their height is getting a bit old.

with names like Thorin Oakenshield, u would expect nothing but bad-ass ninjas swinging their battle axes. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ May 22 2008, 09:09 PM)
i do hope del Toro will portray the dwarves in a much better light compared to Gimli in LOTR. making fun of dwarves because of their height is getting a bit old.

with names like Thorin Oakenshield, u would expect nothing but bad-ass ninjas swinging their battle axes.  biggrin.gif
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When I think of a little guy that is so fast, and also good with swords, one character comes to mind:

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When I think of a little guy that is so fast, and also good with swords, one character comes to mind:
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thank heavens dwarves are not green. it's bad enough with all the facial hair and the Scottish accents.. laugh.gif

another thing that's cool about del Toro is the creatures and makeup in his movies looks good. freaky but good.
Pale Man and the Hellboy characters were sweet! biggrin.gif

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Silmarillion would be fine.

I would like to see what Sauron looks like, before he donned his badass armour lolz. I remembered that he shapeshifted into some gigantic wolf in the book.

and.. the lost of the Silmarils to Melkor.. and the epic duel of the Elf High King Fingolfin and Melkor.. tragic it was..


edit: oh yes, and Huan... a brave dog he is smile.gif

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QUOTE(firedauz @ May 15 2008, 02:34 PM)
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Jackson & Del Toro to Hold Online Hobbit Chat!

We'll let Weta do the talking for the hottest party invite yet this year...

An Unexpected Party

Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro invite you to a live internet chat about The Hobbit.

Peter and Guillermo would love to answer your questions and hear your comments about our new adventure into Middle-Earth. Please register to make sure you don't miss out on the Unexpected Party and get regular updates on the movies.

Weta are excited to be hosting this one-hour live online chat on our website. Please check the start time for your time zone below:

Los Angeles (Pacific) - Saturday, May 24 at 1pm
New York (Eastern) - Saturday, May 24 at 4pm
London - Saturday, May 24 at 9pm
Paris, Berlin, Rome - Saturday, May 24 at 10pm
Sydney - Sunday, May 25 at 6am
Wellington, Auckland - Sunday, May 25 at 8am

Before you register, you can read Peter's personal invitation here!

Now, to register and submit your question in advance, go here!

The Hobbit is expected to hit theaters in 2010 followed by its sequel in 2011.
Anyone went to ask questions from them online? biggrin.gif
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The chat kinda ended a while ago, so here's the scoop on the chats given by both of them.
This sure will answer lots of questions about the upcoming movies rclxms.gif

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Jackson and del Toro Talk The Hobbit!

Executive producer Peter Jackson and director Guillermo del Toro answered fans' questions today about The Hobbit (targeted for a December, 2011 release) and its sequel (December, 2012 release) in an online chat. Below you can read the full transcript of the chat!

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Peter_Jackson: Hi this is Peter here, great to talk to all of you. It is a rainy Sun morning down here in NZ, hopefully there is sun shining where you are. Over in London we have Guillermo on the other end of his computer, and he'll be coming on to say hi. A quick note, we will deal with the 20 most popular questions that have arrived over the last 2 weeks during the course of the hour, but would love to answer as many as we can from as many of you on this chat and who want to fire additional questions. So let us get underway. Hi Guillermo, are you ready?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Hi! Guillermo here- Its a bit cloudy in London but people are already drinking out on the streets- God Bless the pubs-

Peter_Jackson: We have them in a super exciting count down form and will start with Q20. We have chosen 1 questino but in the case of these 20 they represent many 100s of similar questins.

wetahost: Here's the first question: 20 - Will you be doing less location shooting this time because your set builders, digital effects teams etc have become so proficient?

Peter_Jackson: Middle-earth is location, with very few structures really. It's a natural countryside and that's where a lot of shooting will take place.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Location will be favored and real set construction. I love REAL set construction and think that sets are very important part of the storytelling and scope of a film...

AnthonyPearson: What are your plans with the casting of Bilbo Baggins? Is Ian Holm still an option?

Guillermo_del_Toro: The fact that Ian Holm is SO memorable means that PJ, Fran and PB did their job right. We will utilize him in some fashion for sure but the difficulty of th erole will be better assesed after we do the script (s).

DavidPlaice: Will there be any locations outside New Zealand, e.g. the Welsh Marches for The Shire?

Peter_Jackson: Hi David - It is unlikely we will need any locations outside of NZ which has always been the perfect Middle Earth. there is nothing yet that tolkien has described that we haven't managed to find in this amazing little country and I expect the Hobbit to be no different.

Guillermo_del_Toro: None being considered at the moment.

aust: Will Howard Shore be returning to do the score?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Yes- absolutely, Shore is the VOICE of these films and we will absolutely be invited back. Peter and Fran have talked to him a couple of times already and Ive exchanged emails about the subject. He will return.

nolcai: Hello. Are you planning to use some location in italy?

Peter_Jackson: Hi nolcai it is unlikely we will shoot any of the Hobbit of Italy, but I would love come to Italy for a vacation, you should tell me the best places to visit.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Not really- But I love Italy...

wetahost: 19 - May i congratulate on your new appointment as director of The Hobbit, Guillermo. My question is to Guillermo, what can we expect from your vision and approach with this picture and I'm guessing there will be alot of dark elements to this film, but how far will you go in terms of horror and violence?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I hope that Mirkwood can be pretty scary but not graphic, I hope Riddles in the dark has an element of fear and suspense and to be deeply atmospheric but still allow the ingenious, engaging contest to take place. And Smaug should be all shock and awe when he unleashes his anger so, it will be pretty intense but not gorey.

icaroz: Will the Ring trilogy get a blu-ray release around the time of Hobbit? or sooner?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Icaroz - We are working on a blu ray version of the LOTR trilogy with Warner Bros at the moment, not sure when it is due for release. It certainly won't be this year.

KenshinIV: What are the chances Ron Perlman will be voicing Smog?

Guillermo_del_Toro: At this time the voice of Smaug is down to a very few choices in my head and I have a completely specific one, Ron has a good chance but I have other plans for RP... we will see...

Galdor_Felagund: Will you use the Hobbit holes used in LotR?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Galdor-Falagund - yes we hope with the permission of the land owner that we will rebuild Hobbiton bigger and even better than what it was for LOTR in exactly the same location

Peter_Jackson: Here is Q18

wetahost: 18 - Peter & Guillermo: What do you envision Gandalf's role will be in this film? He seems to go off on his own and disappear in several sections of the book. Do you want to stay faithful to that or give him a more active role? How do you think you'll ingratiate his character into an effective, cinematic storyline?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I believe that Gandalf is meant to be used in that way- coming and
going in and out of the narrative. If anything, this creates the perfect setting for those gaps to be bridged by the second film

Peter_Jackson: Those gaps are great! There's a lot of stuff going on, which is distracting him. I'm just pleased to be getting Gandalf the Grey back for two more movies. Ian and I loved him best. We were a little sad when the Gandy the White took over.

mwilcox: Will you be filming the Hobbit in 3D?

Guillermo_del_Toro: At this stage it is too early to tell, but no plans are being made for that at the moment...

RSG1050: Mr. del Toro, have you started keeping a notebook of sketches on this film yet?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I have started already and shared some of the design a=ideas with Alan Lee and John Howe during a very excited lunch in London.

RobbieM: Will Ian McKellen return as Gandalf?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Absolutely!!

Peter_Jackson: Hi Robbie - absolutely

Peter_Jackson: Here comes Q17

wetahost: 17 - Dear Peter Jackson, I enjoyed your cameos in the LOTR movies, Will you have a cameo in this Hobbit, and what character would you like to play?

Peter_Jackson: I actually haven't thought about it. My convention is to do cameos in films I direct. I don't know if that extends to films I produce. I guess we'll find out. I love Hobbits! I am a Hobbit, in very many respects, as were my parents. Tolkien wrote about a type of people he knew, in pre-war England, and somewhere along the line, he must have bumped into my relatives!

Guillermo_del_Toro: Unlike Peter, I'm a Dwarf ( a coarse creature I am)- but I studiously avoid cameos

Jessalyn: When do you expect filming to begin?

Peter_Jackson: Dear Jesslyn - at this point in time the plan is to write for the rest of this year and start early conceptual designs. 2009 will be dedicated to pre-production on both movies and 2010 will be the year we shoot both films back to back. Post productin follows one film at a time with The Hobbit being released Dec 2011, and F2 release Dec 2012. That is the schedule in about as much detail as we have ourselves at the moment.

Peter_Jackson: And Q16 ...

wetahost: 16- Peter: What was it about Guillermo that made you feel he was the
right guy to continue on the saga of Middle-earth? Are the two of
you on the same page for the vision, direction, and style that these movies will have? If the two of you disagree on a point, who wins out?

Peter_Jackson: I'll talk more about this in a later question, but watching his films, he has
respect for fantasy. He understands it, he's not frightened by it. Guillermo also understands character, and how the power of any movie is almost always linked to how closely we empathize with characters within the story. His work shows great care and love for the main characters he creates. He also has supreme confidence with design, and visual effects. So many film makers are scared of visual effects - which is no crime, but tough if you're doing one of these movies!

If we disagree, the director has to win, because you should never force a director to shoot something they don't believe in. But we're both reasonably practical and ego-free, and I believe that if we disagree, we both have the ability to express our differing theorys - state our case, like lawyers - and between us, work out what's best for the movie.

Eriol: So what age rating are you aiming at?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Eriol - the rating will be the same as the Trilogy, PG13 on both movies

Guillermo_del_Toro: An intense PG-13...

Reguba: Will the Hobbit get an extended edition like LOTR?

Peter_Jackson: Dear Reguba - interesting Q. The truth (and this is the truth) is that you don't plan for extended editions up front an extended edition is the result of left over scenes that have been deleted out of theatrical cut. In an ideal world the script is written lean and tight and therefore there are no scenes left on the cuttring room floor and therefore no extended edition. However when writing 3 epic LOTR films there was no way we could keep the writing process as lean, so the extended edition was a result of seeing our thought process during the writing and shooting play itself out on screen with scenes we no longer needed when we finally cut the films together. Whether there will be an extended edition of the Hobbit will depend entirely on the final theatrical cut and what we have left over.

Guillermo_del_Toro: That one is REALLY too early to answer... but being a DVD freak (now a B-Ray freak) I think that if you have enough alternative material you can make it accesible on DVD (or B-R) format... Is not a priori that one decides this.

Peter_Jackson: Now for Q15

wetahost: 15 - Will you be using the same production team ie. Special
effects, art directors, cinematographers, composer etc..

Guillermo_del_Toro: Many of them will be back. I will supplement the FX departments, the design departments (with very interesting names), but the crew will utilize as many of the original elements as possible.

elffan9: Will we be seeing Legolas in Mirkwood?

Guillermo_del_Toro: We all think that this is a very interesting idea but the scripts are in process so- sorry,.. too early to tell.

Peter_Jackson: And now Q14

wetahost: 14 - In the Hobbit book, we have talking trolls and the Eagles and
Smaug talks as well, however in the LOTR Trilogy, trolls did no more than grunt, Fellbeasts screamed, and the Eagles, who were meant to talk, just stayed silent. How much will the portrayal of such animals change in the Hobbit?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I think it should be done exactly as in the book- the talking beast
motif has to exist already to allow for that great character that is Smaug. It is far more jarring to have a linear movie and then out of the blue a talking Dragon.

Yetzi: did you start casting for the 13 dwarves?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Nope- no casting has started yet, but some people have thrown their helmet in the ring.

Peter_Jackson: Hi Yetzi - no casting has commenced and won't until the scripts are written. We have had chats with one or two ofthe LOTR actors however but the casting will be driven largely by the writing and it is impossible to cast 13 dwarves without knowing their personality and characters. We anticipate we won't be in serious casting mode for these movies until well into next year.

wetahost: 13 - Hi. Do you intend to play this one by the Book (The Hobbit that is) and make it a very light childrens tale on film, or do you plan to stick with the much darker treatment- in keeping with the LotR films - particularly the latter ones. My personal preference would be for the latter - cannot see how eg. the Rivendell Elves could regress from their nobility in LotR to those "...Tra-la-la-la...." singing versions which wer in the Hobbit Book. Thank you.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Well see about the Tra-la-la- later- but the book, I believe, in echoing the loss of innocence England experienced after WWI, is a passage form innocence to a darker, more somber state- The visual / thematic progression should reflect that in the camera style, color palette, textural choices, etc.

Peter_Jackson: As I said earlier, I personally feel that The Hobbit can, and should have a different tone. The "tone" of these stories shouldn't be defined by the pressure our characters were under in LOTR. The world is a different place at the time of the Hobbit. The shadow is not so dark. However, what should stay the same is the reality of Middle-earth, and the integrity we bring to it as filmmakers.

Shane: Will the two movies be shot at the same time?

Guillermo_del_Toro: The idea is to shoot them "back to bacK" with a small break to breathe and to reconstruct certain sets and have time to reasses... But a schedule of a year is expecvted.

Peter_Jackson: Hi Shane - Yes the movies will be shot back to back and the shooting of the movie will be driven by which actors are working with us at a given time and what locations we are in. For instance, if we are shooting Hobbiton scenes for Hobbit movies we would also shoot Hobbiton scenes for F2. So during our year of filming we will be shooting both movies at the same time out of sequence.

reel1: Hi, Guys. Was it intentional to release the first Hobbit film on the 10 year anniversary of FOTR?

Peter_Jackson: Dear Razor - No this is the first time I have actually thought about it ... that is nice I will claim credit for the idea from this day forward

Peter_Jackson: Q12 ....

wetahost: 12 - Peter: During production of the trilogy, there were days where there were several filming crews working simultaneously, with
different people directing. Would you ever want to head up a crew and direct the shooting of a scene for a day?

Peter_Jackson: Most directors prefer to direct everything themselves. I thought I could on LOTR, but very quickly found out that the sheer scale prevented it. Instead of a 15 month shoot, we would have shot for 3 years! Guillermo always shoots his own material, so we'll do our best to construct a schedule that allows him to do that. It will depend a lot on how the scripts break down.

I'd happily shot some second unit stuff, anytime Guillermo asked me to. But let's see what happens.

Mr.Movie: Are you already go to New Zealand, Mr.Del Toro ?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Yes- I've been actually been there already -secretly- shh- and will be there shortly after HELLBOY II opens and will be getting a LOT of frequent flyer miles in the next few months-

Peter_Jackson: Hi Greg - F2 is referring to Film 2

Peter_Jackson: Here comes Q11

wetahost: 11 - Guillermo del Toro is an accomplished director. I just wondered whether ok not, he will bring more prostetics, animatronics and physical effects to the film, as he does with such films as Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth (which are great films by the way)? Or will Weta Digital still have their work cut out for them with VFX?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I plan to mix CGI and PHYSICAL in such a way that your eye wonders which is which- keep you mind busy but NEVER allowing for the weaknesses of either tool to take over. Yes, I have, by trial and error, learned that both tools need to be mixed and how much they must be mixed to succeed in creating environments and living creatures. WETA is the lead house, absolutely but we will expand the creature team and beef up the prosthetics team. Imagine a physical creature with a radio controlled muscle / facial system but with partial CGI replacement on the head or mouth, etc and youll start to get the idea

Guillermo_del_Toro: And now for the question...

Vampireta: So how was your first meeting with each other?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Vampierta - The first time I remember meeting Guillermo was at Bob Shay's hosue during a LOTR party. Obviously at that time we had no concept of what the future held!!

Guillermo_del_Toro: We finished a tray of shrimps together and agreed that NEW LINE should keep hiring round, bearded directors with funny accents...

Peter_Jackson: Q10 ....

wetahost: 10- Hi there, thanks for giving this opportunity. my question: will Alan Lee and John Howe be on board again? I really admire their work. good luck for this project and have a lot of fun.

Guillermo_del_Toro: As I said, I had a marvelous lunch with John and Alan in London a few days ago and we all got very excited as we discussed my ideas on Smaug, Mirkwood, etc They are most definetly back!

Peter_Jackson: Impossible to imagine it without them!

Trotter_the_Ranger: What will be the title for the second movie?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Too early- but not "H2 Electric Boogaloo" that has been discarded.

Peter_Jackson: Hi Trots - the second movie doesn't have a title yet and probably won't until we write the script. As you will see we have the incredibly boring name Film Two which I assure you will not last for very long. Just bear with us.

Peter_Jackson: Q 9 ...

wetahost: 9 - Peter, perhaps you could clarify what your role will be in the production of these films: What exactly does an executive producer do? Will you follow that model or "forge your own path?" How will Guillermo's role and your role be different? Do you plan on writing thescript again with Fran and Phillippa?

Peter_Jackson: Truth is "Executive Producers" do a range of things on movies from a lot to virtually nothing! I see myself being one of a production team. My interest is helping Guillermo make the very best films he can. I love writing and I'm looking forward to that. Guillermo will be writing, along with Fran, Philippa and myself. As a director, I could never direct something I didn't have a hand in writing, and we're not expecting Guillermo to do that either. If the director is part of the writing, it means he was there when the discussions took place, story decisions were made ... he knows why things are the way they are, and what they need to achieve. Everything is in a script for a reason, and only by being part of a writing team (or writing it yourself), do you really understand the intention of every beat.

I see my role as being part of that writing team, which will create the blueprint, and then helping Guillermo construct the movie. I want Guillermo to make his movies, and I want to make sure we end up with a 5 movie series that's as good as it can possibly be.

Merlkir: any ideas about the talking wargs? the wargs in hobbit are remarkably different from the "hyena" ones in the LOTR movies..

Guillermo_del_Toro: Absolutely: they will be different from the Hyena ones established in the Trilogy- they will be faithful to the creatures in the book and will be redesigned accordingly.

lordlinton: Loved the video diaries for King Kong, will you guys be doing something similar for the Hobbit?

Peter_Jackson: There is a lot of questions about production diaries for the internet - the truth is that Guillermo and I haven't even discussed this topic yet, now do we have a real plan in place for the internet and DVD side of the film. You have to realise that although this was announced and is all round the world we are at the very beginning of the process just starting to think about the scripts. We are not trying to fob anyone off but we simply haven't got that far in the process yet and it is a plan we will put into place during the course of 2009.

Peter_Jackson: Q 8 coming ...

wetahost: 8 - I always thought creating Gollum would pose a great artisic challenge to the artists whose job it would be to adapt the Lord of the Rings. With the Hobbit I believe Smaug will pose one of the great challenges. Now we have all seen dragons in movies. But for the Hobbit I personally am excepting nothing less than unbelievable . Were will you go for inspiration? What styles will the art dirction look at? Personally I can see a lot being done with the setting from Pan's Labyrinth. Thank you and good luck to you all.

Guillermo_del_Toro: This is a big one-- Allow me to quote form my random responses at Onering.net

I am a big Dragon fan. I've said it before- And I was fortunate enough to be born a Dragon in the Chinese Horocope...

And although its always impossible to agree on the "greatest" of anything, I bring forth these two as the main film contenders for that title: Eyvind Earle / Disney's Maleficent dragon ( a triumph of elegance of color and design) and Vermitrax Pejorative from
Dragonslayer.

In my opinion, every other design has borrowed heavily from these two.
I plan to create something new and groundbreaking.

Smaug should not be "the Dragon in the Hobbit movie" as if it was just "another" creature in a Bestiary. Smaug should be "The DRAGON" for all movies past and present. The shadow he cast and the greed he comes to embody- the "need to own" casts its long shadow and creates a thematic / dramatic continuity of sorts that articulates the story throughout-

In that respect, Smaug the CHARACTER is as important, if not more important, than the design. The character will emerge form the writing- and in that the Magnificent arrogance, intelligence, sophistication and greed of Smaug shine through-

In fact, Thorin's greed is a thematic extension of this and Bilbo's "Letting go" and his noble switching of sides when the dwarves prove to be in the wrong is its conceptual counterpart (that is a hard one to get through, Bilbo's heroism is a quiet, moral one) and the thematic thread reaches its climax in the Bilbo / Thorin death bed scene.

Anyway, back to Smaug: One of the main mistakes with talking dragons is to shape the mouth like a snub Simian one in order to achieve a dubious lip-synch. .. A point which eluded me particularly in Eragon, since their link is a psychic one.

To me, Smaug is the perfect example of a great creature defined by its look and design, yes, but also, very importantly, by his movement and -One little hint- its environment - Think about it... the way he is scaled, moves and is lit, limited or enhanced by his location, weather conditions, light conditions, time of the year, etc. That's all I can say without spoilers but, if you keep this curious little summary you'll realize several years form now that those things I had in my mind ever since doodling the character as a kid had solidified waaay before starting the shoot of the film.

A big tool is also how and when he is fully revealed. I could give you specifics- beat-by-beat in fact (I'm geeking out to do it), but...

I will say no more in order to save you from ruthless spoilerage (we have a few years to go, you now...?) and increased anxiety.

Let me, however, say that this is actually one of the points I feel most enthusiastic about.

As to his voice- well, each reader has a Smaug voice in his / her head, just like you always do when "hearing" a great character in a book.

I have mine... and it will be revealed in time...

manuthevif: Guillermo, Will Peter be directing Hellboy 3 at some point?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Offers have been made but he remains elusive- we will be in talks soon.

swjedi18: Will be seeing The While Council in The Hobbit?

Peter_Jackson: Hi swjedi18 - To early to say before the scripts are written but it is definitely an idea we are discussing.

Guillermo_del_Toro: There's a very good chance if the "gaps" are filled in some form in either narrative. Too early...

Peter_Jackson: Now for Q7

wetahost: 7 - how important is it to you to create overall consistency between Peter's LOTR films and Guillermo's? in terms of the actors, look and feel, scenery, score, fx -- is your aim to have them stand on their own or sync up with the trilogy?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I believe that its a little bit of both- the world must feel like the same world. The aspect ratio, music, essential established costume and production design trademarks but I would love to bring a lot of new flavours to the table. THE HOBBIT is, in essence, an overture to a massive Symphonic work so main themes are reprised but new modulations and new colors are introduced, thematically and texturally.

Peter_Jackson: I love Guillermo's symphonic allusion. The "overture" can have a different flavour, a different texture, yet be a carefully crafted introduction to what's to follow. Film Two is perfect to dramatise the shift in Middle-earth that propells us into the dark days of LOTR. If LOTR is World War One, then the Hobbit is like an Edwardian adventure tale, set in the days before world notices the looming storm clouds.

Junaid: Is The Hobbit harder or easier than LOTR to adapt as a script?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Junaid - Both are equally difficult to be completely honest. The Hobbit has its own unique problems, different to those of LOTR.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Not easy- I tell you that-

Peter_Jackson: Here comes Q6 ...

wetahost: 6 - Will Weta be releasing figures for this film like it did with Kong and Narnia?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I would hope so!! I want them all!!

Galdor_Felagund: How does Christopher Tolkien feel about the two new films?

Peter_Jackson: Hi Galdor - Christopher Tolkien did not wish to be involved in the LOTR movies and I would assuem his feelings are the same with these two films. I totally respect him for that since he is looking after the legacy of his father's books and does not wish to be involved in someone else's interpretation of those stories.

Peter_Jackson: Here comes Q5

wetahost: 5 - Having recently reread the Hobbit with my children, it strikes me that the Hobbit contains a fairly linear story that doesn't necessarily follow the "three act" formula typical of movies. What do you see as the biggest challenge adapting the story to the big screen?

Guillermo_del_Toro: There are so many- I am all for trying to preserve every idiosyncrasy the novel has- the very things that seem unfilmable and that in my mind- will make it thrilling as a film. The novel is much, much more inventive and dislocated in its narrative (Bilbo being hit by a rock during the Battle) than you may think at first. I think that you can treat a classic like a museum piece stuffed and mounted- or you can make it a living, breathing narrative that is unfolding right then and there.

Peter_Jackson: Structure is important in film, but as Guillermo says, there's often structure to be found in the most unlikely of places! It's quite possible to build a structured story and retain idiosyncrasy. It's going to be part of the joy of writing this.

Lukas-Eldarion: Will you do another chat later on in the process?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Gladly- gladly- I'm in!!

Peter_Jackson: Hi Lukas - we would love to this has been a lot of fun. Let us just get the last of the official questions out because we are working down to the most popular ones in the final few

Peter_Jackson: Now for Q4

wetahost: 4 - Will Gollum play a role in the second film? If not, any plans to find a different role for Andy Serkis? Because, and I think most will agree with me, everything is better with more Serkis.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Yes! As all of you know, Gollum has a rather fascinating arch to go through and his alliance to Shelob or his period of imprisonment in Thranduil's, etc but it is early still- so early in fact that to reveal more would tie our hands and be counterproductive.

Guillermo_del_Toro: There can never be "too much Andy"

Peter_Jackson: Now for Q 3

wetahost: 3 - Hello from New Orleans! What production challenges do you feel will be different for The Hobbit and the sequel compared to the experience of making The LOTR?

Peter_Jackson: Yikes! Every film is a challenge. I always say that making a movie is like film school - you're always learning. But unlike most schools, you never get done with it. You never learn everything. Over time, you get to anticipate problems a little better - but new ones hit you. You get to figure out solutions, but there are always extreme problems you could never guess.

One of the things I'm going to enjoy in this experience, is that I'll be better placed to help anticipate the problems and fix them. When you're directing, you're right at the coal face, always exhausted, often emotional - and I'll enjoy being a couple of steps back from that and simply helping where I can. Having done it 3 times as director, there's a lot I know that can help smooth the way for Guillermo.

Peter_Jackson: And we will now do 2

wetahost: 2 - Hello Mr. Jackson and Mr. Del Toro! Thank you very much for this time. My question is one that I think you will hear alot of from many of us...from what material will you pulling the second movie from? I know it'll be great with you two on board, but I am mighty curious. I am a huge fan of both of you and I look foward to more Tolkien films!

Guillermo_del_Toro: The idea is to find a compelling way to join THE HOBBIT and FELLOWSHIP and enhance the 5 films both visually an in their Cosmology. Theres
omissions and material enough in the available, licensed material to attempt this. The agreement is, however, that the second film must be relevant and emotionally strong enough to be brought to life but that we must try and contain the HOBBIT in a single film.

Peter_Jackson: Lets do a few more random questions before the final grand question.

wetahost: Hi Guys my question comes in two parts. Firstly will we notice a significant shift in visual style from LOTR to the Hobbit due to Guillermo's unique asthetic? And if so will there be a complete re-imagining in the design of places seen in both books (ie Bag End and Rivendell) due to this differing style?

Guillermo_del_Toro: GDT The basic designs, the preestablished designs will be only updated insofar as the epoch difference. Half a century more or less which in Middle Earth terms is not that much but- think about how much our world has changed from say 2001 to now The new settings and designs should blend in enough not to feel like a completely different world but yes, the movies are bound to have some distinctive stylistic imprint.

wetahost: Gentlemen, a two part question. 1st, shooting on film or HD? 2nd, scope or flat?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I normally use 1:85 but I thoroughly plan to respect Peters choice of format used in the Trilogy (2:35:1) but it is my intention, for now, to shoot this on film, not HD.

wetahost: How will the new Gollum differ from the Gollum of the LOTR trilogy, if at all?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Once again, only in the passage of time (hes half a century younger) but it will be Andy and the established design will be our Template

wetahost: Will the Mirkwood Elves be different from the Rivendell Elves of the LOTR trilogy?

Guillermo_del_Toro: That is definetly my intention but I cannot reveal anymore at the moment.

wetahost: Considering that you're stretching The Hobbit into 2 movies can we assume that Beorn will be featured and will not be given the Tom Bombadil treatment?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I may be in the minority, but I absolutely LOVE Beorn and I intend to feature him in the films. BTW I also like TB quite a bit

wetahost: I would love to know how you are going to deal with goblins in the movie. Will they look like the smaller orcs in the LOTR movies or are you going to make a completely new design?Also will everything look like it did in the LOTR movies or will you be redesigning it to fit your vision?

Guillermo_del_Toro: This is an area in which I hope we can expand and enhance a LOT from the established designs in the Trilogy. I plan to come up with a very strong, new treatment for the Goblins. I also think the Wargs should be readdressed for their role in The HOBBIT.

wetahost: One thing I love about watching movies from different film makers is seeing their own visions put onscreen. But since these HOBBIT movies are being made to tie in with the LOTR series, does this mean Mr. Del Toro's wonderfully imaginitive vision will be limited to follow the rules set up by Mr. Jackson?

Guillermo_del_Toro: It is my privilege to roam through roads previously traced but I definetly intend to take you to new and exciting places that the Trilogy did not explore. Nevertheless it is our intention that, once done, the 5 films will play like a symphonic work that seamlessly transports you through this world.

wetahost: Hi there,i'm Beren from Romania and i'd like to ask Mr. GDT if he plans to use(as PJ did) extensive matte paintings and "big-atures" to portray the vast panoramas and cities of Middle-earth or the more simpler CG effects? Thanks and cheers.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Peter and I both love old school techniques. I adore physical miniatures and try to use them as much as I can and have a bit of a fetish about that. Matte Paintings and Big-atures will definetly be in these.

wetahost: Question for Guillermo, assuming they are all returning to write the screenplay, will you be writing alongside Peter, Philippa and Fran also?

Guillermo_del_Toro: I intend to. Their input in the literary creation of the screenplay is a must. I depend on them and expect to spend many delightful months wandering through Middle Earth.

Peter_Jackson: Writing a screen play with a group of collaborators is like the Lennon McCartney collaboration .... sometimes one or two people do more than others on certain parts of the process and vice versa, it all comes out in the wash and we share equal credit in what everyone has done, with 4 of us we will be able to divide the work up in interesting ways and everyone will be able to help craft these films.

wetahost: I'd comment on the awesomeness of director choice, but I'm sure that gets old. Concerning The Hobbit and the numerous Dwarves, I was wondering if all of them are going to find their way into the film. In Lord of the Rings, you had 9 in the Fellowship, but you had three movies to flesh them out. In the Hobbit, you have 13 Dwarves and one film to throw them all in. I'm definitely hoping to see all 13 make their way in, but what are you doing about this?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Tolkien wrote 13 dwarves and I intend to use 13 dwarves. I am, in fact, thrilled to keep them all and have them be distinguishable and affecting as characters. Much of the drama and emotion in the last third of the book and film will come from them.

wetahost: Guiilermo, I have always thought of you as a visionary director, and I love your work- could you please tell me what was the deciding factor that made you agree to direct The Hobbit?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Of all of Tolkien literary work I was only familiar with THE HOBBIT. I purchased it at age 11 and it struck a chord with me but, back then, I failed to connect with the Trilogy and the Silmarillion (Which now I find delectable) eluded me. I found them unlike the HOBBIT- to be too dense for my young mind. I dreamt of Mirkwood and Smaug for ages (in fact, a Smaug-like dragon was scripted as part of the fairy tale Ophelia narrates to her brother in PANS LABYRINTH and was sculpted but was cut for budget reasons) but when I saw Peter undertake the Trilogy I thought thet the HOBBIT would never come to be for me. The proposition of spending half a decade crafting these films received- as Peter will atest- a 5 second YES from me. To people in my industry Im usually a guy that tries to generate his own projects and I remain very elusive when people try and attach me to big projects. For decades I have passed on films of enormous scope but this is a fantastic privilege and I immediately said Yes.

wetahost: My question is, when Del Toro has acknowledged his disdain for Hobbits and "sword and sandals" fantasy, how can he do justice to the movie? Why can't Peter direct it himself after The Lovely Bones? He can direct these 2 movies and then direct the 3rd Tintin movie.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Okay- If by Sword and Sandal you mean Sword and Sorcery I stand by the general lines of my statement in 2006. But allow me to reproduce the following paragraph from ONERING.net and expand it-

Since the age of 4 I became an avid reader and collector of books; manuscripts, pamphlets, first editions, small press or worn-down paperbacks... they all find a home at my library which has grown so cumbersome and obtrusive that I had to move to a separate home from the family one...

For many decades my main area of interest has been horror fiction: Algernon Blackwood, Arthur Machen, MR James, LeFanu, etc and classic Fairy tales and literature about the engines of Myth: unabridged Grimm, Andersen, Wilde, Bettelheim, Tatar, etc

Now and then I indulge in Science Fiction (not hardware oriented but more humanistic things) and thus I count Bradbury, Ellison, Sturgeon and Matheson amongst my favorites.

My area of interest gets much narrower when we deal with another genre... the genre that is shelved under Fantasy.

As a youngster I read Moorcock, Clark Ashton Smith, Lord Dunsany, Lloyd Alexander, Fritz Leiber, Marcel Schwob, RE Howard and a few others.

Nevertheless I was never propelled into an aleatory addiction to sub-genres like Sword & Sorcery or indiscriminate fantasies about magical this or that- Like any other genre or subgenre there's a great abundance that makes it hard to discern when a new "trilogy" or "chronicle" comes from as genuine a place as Tolkien's or derives from genuine fervor -religious or otherwise- like C.S. Lewis' did. But here I am now: reading like a madman to catch up with a whole new land, a continent of sorts- a Cosmology created by brilliant philologist turned Shaman.

As if he grasped an existing universe outside our Platonic cave, Tolkien channels an entire world, weaving expertly from myth and lore. The oustanding virtue is that all this scholarly erudition doesn't reduce his tales to mere Taxidermy. He achieves an Alchemy all of his own: he writes new life in the freshly sculpted clay of his creatures.

I have, through the years become familiar with the very roots of Tolkien's myths and the roots of Fafhrd or Elric or Hyperborea and many a time I have relished the intricate ways in which demonic wolves, shape-shifter and spindly-limbed pale warriors can be woven into those many tales that become, at the end, the single tale, the single saga- that of what is immortal in us all.

In creating Pan's Labyrinth I drank deep of the most rigid form of Fairy Lore and tried to contextualize the main recurrent motifs in an instinctive rhyme between the world of fantasy and the delusions of War and Politics (the grown man's way of playing make-believe) and in re-reading THE HOBBIT just recently I was quite moved by discovering, through Bilbo's eyes the illusory nature of possession, the sins of hoarding and the banality of war- whether in the Western Front or at a Valley in Middle Earth. Lonely is the mountain indeed.

When that statement was made- at different times during PANS LABYRINTHs promotion, many a time I made the distinctive call to say that althought I had not read Tolkien outside THE HOBBIT I had been fascinated by the Trilogy films. A statement that I already had the chance to make in 2005 when PJ, Fran and I met about HALO.

So, no, generally I am NOT a Sword and Sorcery guy or a Fantasy guy- By the same token, I'm not a sci-fi guy but I would make a film based on Ellison in a second- or on Sturgeon or Bradbury or Matheson. I'm not into Barbarians with swords but i would kill to tackle Fafhrd and Grey Mouse... and so on and so forth... I'm a believer but not a Dogmatic.

Allow me to put a final, finer point to our discussion. The aesthetics of HELLBOY II are completely Pop and color-saturated, much more comic book / modern than I would ever use in THE HOBBIT but- I spend two years creating a world of Fairies, Elves, Trolls, etc

Two Years. A career / creative decision that precedes any inkling of THE HOBBIT. I wrote the script years before I met with PJ or Fran. In other words I dedicated the last 6 years of my career (between PL and HBII) to create Fantastical world inhabited by Fairies, Fauns, Ogres, Trolls, Elves, etc

In that respect- I guess I am a Fantasy guy when the particular world appeals to me. Back in the Jurassic Period (1992 / 1993) when CRONOS won the Critics Week at Cannes I was referred to as an art house guy- I followed that with a giant cockroach movie that proved successful enough to spawn two sequels and allow me to co-finance THE DEVILS BACKBONE which send me back to being an art house guy. Then I did BLADE II and people thought of me as an Action guy- PJ went through a similar mercurial career with HEAVENLY CREATURES, BAD TASTE, DEAD ALIVE, etc I squirm away from a tag and I hope I can avoid being just a Fantasy guy after PL, HBII and H

I do the tales I love (regardless of what shelf Barnes & Noble classifies the book under) and I love the HOBBIT.

I love it enough to give it half a decade of my life and move half a world away to do it.

Peter_Jackson: Having directed the LOTR Trilogy, I really felt that I put my heart and soul into dramatising this world and story, only a few years ago. The idea of going back in and essentially competing against my own movies, seemed to be an unsatsifying way to spend the next 5 years. However, I love Tolkien and care deeply about the movies we made. I couldn't bear the idea of somebody else making them without our involvement. Being a writer and producer is the perfect way for me to work here. Guillermo has the ultimate responsibility of directing, and for him it's easier to make these movies feel different, simply because he's not me, and he therefore has an original vision, with new ideas to offer.

Believe me, I thought long and hard about this, and what we're doing here will result in better movies, I promise you. And that's all that counts!

Peter_Jackson: OK we are almost done here folks and we have our last Q which was the most popular Q from the 1000s of people who sent Qs in advance.

wetahost: 1 - Which of the actors from LOTR will be back to reprise their roles
in The Hobbit and its companion film?

Guillermo_del_Toro: Obviously, at this stage, the second film is still being figured out- so the actors that have been approached may or not have appeared in the HOBBIT as a literary work but still may appear in the second film as it blends into the Trilogy and expands. Therefore what can be said is: Unequivocally, every single actor that originated a role in the Trilogy will be asked to participate and reprise it. If Health, availability or willigness become obstacles and only in that case recasting would be considered.

Peter_Jackson: Like Guillermo says, apart from extreme circumstances, we would never recast a character who appeared in the LOTR trilogy. You can read The Hobbit and pretty much see which characters play a part. The unknown facter is Film Two, which we are still developing. If we wished to write one of the LOTR characters into the narrative of Film Two, we would only do that with that actors blessing, and willingess to take part. Otherwise we'd take the writing in another direction.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Time is up-

But I can proudly say that only a FEW asked "How can I be an extra?" so my heart swell withy pride with the many questions that you were kind enough to submit- More chats and wandering in the message boards await us- See you soon...

Peter_Jackson: So that is it for us for this morning or this evening, or middle of the night wherever you are. We are sorry that is all we could get through but we did try to have each of the Qs represent similar things that many of you have asked. So hopefully it gives you a little bit of info. As I said the truth is there are a lot of unanswered Qs for us as well at this stage of the process. We will know a lot more once the scripts are written which is the next job that we will be doing and it will take most of the rest of this year I imagine. Hope this has been helpful and thank you for all the incredible support now and in years gone by. Best wishes, Peter J.

Guillermo_del_Toro: May the hair on your toes, etc-

Peter_Jackson: The transcript of this chat will be available here on the Weta site in a few hours time. Everyone here at Weta is looking foward to continuing this relationship with you throughout the hobbit experience and there are a lot of fun surprises to come over the next 4 years.

Guillermo_del_Toro: Viva WETA and the many "toys" they make! And may Cthulhu give me more shelves to put them on..

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Guillermo_del_Toro: Unlike Peter, I'm a Dwarf ( a coarse creature I am)- but I studiously avoid cameos
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Although director Guillermo del Toro and producer Peter Jackson recently said that casting on The Hobbit won't start in earnest until next year, the rumor mill is suggesting that the filmmakers already have the actor in mind for the lead role of Bilbo Baggins.

According to The One Ring and MSN, via British tabloid Daily Express, Scottish actor James McAvoy (soon to be seen in Wanted) is the frontrunner to play Bilbo. McAvoy is no stranger to fantasy films, having previously played "Mr. Tumnus" in The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

"A number of names have been doing the rounds, including Daniel Radcliffe and Jack Black, but James (McAvoy) is the one the film's bosses really want," the Daily Mail's alleged insider told the paper. "They're expected to have talks soon so hopefully it could be confirmed in the not too distant future."

Source: http://movies.ign.com/articles/877/877892p1.html
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ya..i read the same news that james mcavoy is the top choice as bilbo baggins...a great choice!! rclxm9.gif

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86-year-old Christopher Lee has expressed his interest in returning as Saruman in Guillermo del Toro's The Hobbits.

While the evil wizard is not featured in the "Lord of the Rings" prequel, the two films give plenty of room for Saruman to return in some aspect. Lee tells Empire Online:

I'd be interested in seeing how that transition from good to evil occurred and, yes, of course I would return to the role if I was asked.


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wow christopher lee is already 86 years old n still good to go.
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Guillermo del Toro Talks to Dragons

Since Guillermo del Toro dropped Pan’s Labyrinth on us in ‘O6, everyone has been dying to work with him… and have him adapt the classics closest to their heart? With his increasingly questionable adaptations of the beloved characters of the Hellboy characters, how will Hobbit fan’s fare if he takes their little Frodo where they don’t want to follow? Del Toro recently attended the New Yorker Festival in Manhattan, and spoke with Daniel Zalewski, from The New Yorker on the topic of inspiration, dragon dialogue, and WWI. Coming Soon was there and published their highlights.

It seems that Del Toro will not be boning up on classic fantasy flicks like Willow, Legend or Labyrinth to prepare for the production of The Hobbit. He claims, “I wouldn’t be watching Krull, or The Dark Crystal, I need to find my own way into the story. That’s the same way I did Pan’s Labyrinth or Devil’s Backbone, by watching stuff you wouldn’t think about.” OK, so… he’s making sure to not be inspired by fantasy flicks with puppets in them? That seems to be good news.

So, where is he deriving his inspiration from? He explains that he is “reading or watching World War I documentaries or books that I think inform The Hobbit, strangely enough, because I believe it is a book born out of Tolkien's generation's experience with World War I and the disappointment of being in that field and seeing all those values kind of collapse. I think it's a turning point that you need to familiarize yourself with.” Thanks for the heavy handed suggestion, del Toro. I just hope we don’t see the effects of WWI in his interpretation of the Shire!

Although his basis for inspiration sounds dangerously un-fun, it seems we can all agree on something: Dragons are awesome and should have as much dialogue as possible. Del Toro says, “[All] my life I've been fascinated by dragons. I was born under the Chinese sign of The Dragon. All my life I'm collecting dragons. It's such a powerful symbol, and in the context of The Hobbit it is used to cast its shadow through the entire narrative. Essentially, Smaug represents so many things: greed, pride… he's 'the Magnificent,' after all. The way his shadow is cast in the narrative you cannot then show it and have it be one thing, he has to be the embodiment of all those things. He's one of the few dragons that will have enormous scenes with lines. He has some of the most beautiful dialogues in those scenes!” With his amazing interpretations of mythical creatures, I have no doubt his interpretation of Smaug will be nothing short of breathtaking.

With Peter Jackson winning Oscars and stuff for his versions of the same character that The Hobbit is based on, Del Toro most certainly has some shoes to fill, and an unusually large fan base to answer to. Few directors have been able to achieve the level of critical acclaim and fan approval that Jackson achieved with his LOTR trilogy. But it seems that del Toro is not here to re-create the LOTR ‘verse. He claims, “There will be different sensibilities involved in this movie than there were in the original trilogy. First of all, because we have the travelogues in The Hobbit which goes to places and variations on races that were not addressed in the trilogy.” I think we can all agree that Del Toro knows how to make a race of fantasy folk, as evidenced in his artful interpretation of the fawn in Pan’s Labyrinth and the Golden Army in Hellboy 2.

When asked about more specific races, like the ‘Wargs,’ Del Toro had this to say: “My belief on the 'Wargs' issue is that the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature. It is a wolf. The archetype is a wolf, so we're going to go back to the slender, archetypical wolf that is, I think, the inspiration for Tolkien.” He would not give any more details, joking that “Warner Brothers has a sniper right here at the theater!”

With The Hobbit becoming more and more concrete, LOTR fans will definitely be able to start looking forward to something. Whether they love or hate Tolkien adaptations, The Hobbit is happening! It seems that Del Toro, himself, is psyched: "Believe me, I am jumping up-and-down inside this fat body!"

Del Toro also has some other delectable sounding projects cooking in his Spanish sizzler: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, an adaptation of Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness, a novel-style vampire trilogy, and a very modern interpretation of Frankenstein.


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It sounds like all the time Guillermo del Toro has been spending with Peter Jackson has had its effect. Del toro, when discussing The Hobbit, is sounding a lot like Jackson did when talking about his three Lord of the Rings movies-- a good thing for anyone hoping for two movies as narratively consistent as LOTR, which should be pretty much all of us. Del Toro spoke to MTV News about the two Hobbit, and suggested that one day it will be possible to consider his two films and Jackson's three as one, continuous movie.

"We all agree that if we do our job right, it should all feel like a continuous journey. That’s what we’re striving for. If we do our job right, you put in The Hobbit and you wind up watching the entire Pentology!” Does del Toro really think so little of us that he thinks we have nothing to do than to spend about 15 hours watching five movies? And how did he find out how he spends my Saturday?

Del Toro is still mum on details about the second movie, which bridges the gap in story between The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring, and will presumably involve a lot of hobbits dancing merrily in the Shire. We don't even know when the first movie will leave off, or how closely it will follow the events of the book; all del Toro is saying is “I think Smaug dies in the first movie. So draw your own conclusions.”

Del Toro is a doll to make himself open to reporter questions so frequently, especially when the questions can be really inane, really specific ones from Tolkien fanatics. And it's impressive that we're usually satisfied with whatever answers he gives, even when they're as vague as these. Shouldn't there come a point where we can leave the guy alone, and leave him to mess around with models of dragons and finally cast Bilbo?

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Guillermo del Toro, being the mensch that he is, went back online this week (hey, it’s not a holiday week in Mexico) to talk more details about The Hobbit. Of course, there aren’t many details left to share at this point—filming doesn’t begin until 2010, and they haven’t even figured out the shortlist for Bilbo yet. But the conversation at BilboHobbit.com contains a few small tidbits that at least the diehard del Toro and Hobbit fans will enjoy.

First of all, he promises lots of creatures and puppets on the scale of the ones in Hellboy 2, focusing on some of the creatures who barely showed up in Lord of the Rings. ”We will be pushing the goblin kingdom. We will be pushing Smaug, the Spiders of Mirkwood. We will be pushing them to the edge of technology where we will fuse animatronics and CGI into a seamless new art form in creating creatures.” Sounds cool, but who will be helping him pull it off? None other than several of his Hellboy creators, if del Toro has his way. “[Mike] Mignola [creator of Hellboy and writer of the movies], [Wayne] Barlowe [visual designer], Spectral Motion, Guillermo Navarro [cinematographer] and others…”

Del Toro’s most exciting promises, as usual, come on the visual effects front. “You will see some mind-boggling mixture of CGI / Puppetry like never before. The demarcation of where one technique ends and the other begins will NOT be as clean as in HBII or BLADE II or PAN’S LABYRINTH. I am going to push further than ever on both fronts.” At this point we’re all just ready for del Toro to stop making promises and make the movie already, but hey, these things take time. At least he’s continuing to keep the fans posted, and hey, we might be learning about Bilbo soon!

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How come I didnt know anything??I heard James McAvoy is gonna be Bilbo.He's kinda cute in Narnia.But why would Elijah Wood be in the movie?I can imagine Arwen,Aragon,Legolas showing up, but not the other hobbits.I'd love to see them on screen again,dont get me wrong.
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and yes some ninja dual-axe wielding dwarves would work too.


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Two of the only three members of The Hobbit’s cast that I think we can so far bank on (the third being Ian McKellen) are set to make appearances in two separate music biopics before hand.

Firstly, Andy Serkis is to play Ian Dury in a film of the Blockhead’s life. He said “I’m actually doing a film in April about the life of Ian Dury, who’s a proto-punk rocker in the 1970s. He’s an amazing character, a real poet. He sort of came up out of the British pub rock scene. He sort of pre-empted the Sex Pistols and the whole punk movement. And he was a polio sufferer, so he basically didn’t have much use of his left leg or his left arm.”

This is perfect casting. If you don’t believe me, check out video of Ian Drury performing.



As I understand it, Michael Winterbottom collaborator Matt Whitecross will be the director (you may recall Serkis played Martin Hannet in Winterbottom’s 24 Hour Party People).

The second Hobbiter to sign up for a muso-movie is none other than Doug Jones. He’s in the cast of the Serge Gainsbourg biopic. He won’t be playing Gainsbourg himself (Eric Elmosnino will be ), and he hasn’t yet revealed who he will be playing, but he promises that the role will require his characteristic prosthetic make-up. Asking around, I have confirmed that the film is based upon a French comic book series (!) and will feature several supernatural creatures in “fable-like” scenes. These creatures will be handled by Studio DDT, who also worked on Pan’s Labyrinth - hence the Jones connection.

The film will also feature Laetitia Casta as Brigitte Bardot so, gentlemen, start your daydreaming now.


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January is, statistically speaking, the most miserable of months. It’s cold, it’s dark, and Moira Stuart is forever banging on about paying your tax bill by the 31st, or Mr. Taxman will be round to cut off a pound, or three, of flesh.

So here at Empire, we feel it’s our duty to cheer you up – and what better way than by presenting to you our brand new issue, which should be hitting newsagent and supermarket shelves near you any… second… now.

Inside, you’ll find all kinds of cheery tonics, such as our horror overload, featuring Bruce Campbell, Freddy and Jason, the Wolfman’s Emily Blunt, and the Lesbian Vampire Killers, and our lovely look at the individuals who make up the Watchmen.

But pride of place – on our cover and in our hearts – is our big special on The Hobbit. What’s that, you say? It’s not even out for two years? Well, yes, but inside our special feature, you’ll find a one-stop shop of information on the films that may be the most anticipated of the next few years.

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Inside, we’ll tell you how the film finally became a reality after years languishing in tangled rights hell; why Peter Jackson stepped aside from directing; what might be contained in the mooted second movie; and just what director Guillermo del Toro has in store for the whole shebang.

Here’s a taster of our exclusive interview with del Toro: “Whatever The Hobbit ends up being, it has to ultimately blend seamlessly into the first movie of the trilogy. We have to respect the cosmology and the canon established by the trilogy and follow it.”

For more from del Toro, and more on The Hobbit, pick up the March issue of Empire – on sale Friday.



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Hugo Weaving confirmed to return for ‘The Hobbit’

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Thanks to TORn message board member Theodred for digging up this great scoop! In the following BBC Radio 5 Simon Mayo interview, ‘Hobbit’ director Guillermo del Toro confirms that Hugo Weaving will be cast in the upcoming ‘Hobbit’ films. While he does not specifically say he is returning as Elrond, when speaking of Andy Serkis, Ian McKellen and Weaving he says, “…as the roles they originated in the trilogy.” I think we can make a good assumption that means Elrond! Take a moment to listen to the Simon Mayo broadcast over at BBC - the Hobbit casting talk is around the 02:10:55 point.

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http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118014180.html

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[Warners top dog Alan] Horn won’t predict when the first of the two Hobbit films will be out, but says the most probable scenario would be a release in the fourth quarter of 2012.


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I dont mind if it's going to be released that year. After all I've been waiting since 2003. I think a good movie should take few years to produce and direct.

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In an interview with the UK Daily Telegraph’s John Preston, actor Matthew Goode commented on some news that would be of great interest to those fans following developments on The Hobbit.  Preston writes:

“Now he’s a father, Goode doesn’t even like travelling that much. But just before we met, he’d auditioned for the role of Bilbo Baggins in Guillermo del Toro’s two-part film of The Hobbit. As he is the first to admit, he’s not an obvious choice – ‘Look at the size of me for Christ’s sake!’ If he got the part, he would, he says, find it almost impossible to refuse – despite the fact that it would involve him spending several months in New Zealand.”


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I wouldn't read much on it just yet, but now, after all this time, after AVATAR doing the Box Office it did, we have had enquires from above about The Hobbit being in 3-D.

No impositions or heavy leaning. Just enquires. Just fulfilling my promise to let you all know if discussions ever started.

Cheers

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THE HOBBIT's, two films, start shooting in New Zealand in July.  Filming will take over a year. Casting in Los Angeles, New York City and London has started.  The script too proceeds.  The first draft is crammed with old and new friends, again on a quest in Middle Earth. 

The director Guillermo del Toro is now living in Wellington, close to the Jacksons' and the studio in Miramar.


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Del Toro quits.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111801999...egoryid=13&cs=1


Added on June 3, 2010, 7:34 pmPeter Jackson himself might direct, he's not ruling out the possibility.

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Letter from Del Toro explaining why he quits: http://www.boffo.com/2010/06/del-toro-on-h...of-my-life.html
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So, here I am again. As promised, I am posting a longer message before the week's end.

I have to thank those of you that have supported me from the start as well as those that converted along the way. And even say farewell to those that never did convert or believed.

I will miss Mr. Crere, the faith of Compa and Sir DennisC, the wisdom of Voronwe, the joy of Grammaboodawg, the support of Kangi Ska and so many, many others

Now, Pasi, et al- that is what is quite uncommon even on big films. Pete and co stuck to LOTR for years, I've developed films for years and I have shot many a movie on location... but rarely do you relocate for such massive amount of time specially when you have to do major ironclad agreements to put in deep freeze other contractual obligations with multiple studios.

My commitment to the project demanded enormous sacrifices both in personal and professional terms. The consequences of which will ripple for years. I relocated my entire life and family to New Zealand and first came on board in 2008.

So- while the cited delays, contractual complexities or obstacles, cannot be attributed to a single event or entity - you will simply have to believe that they were of sufficient complexity and severity to lead to the current situation. Trust me on this, Pasi- leaving NZ and the Hobbit crew is extremely painful.

As stated before- a wealth of designs, animatics, boards and sculptures is left behind representing accurately my ideas for Mirkwood, Spiders, Wargs, Stone Trolls, etc, etc and everyone (PJ, FW, PB and myself) has the same goal in mind: to try and ensure the best possible transition of the movie to a new director.

I believe these films will happen. Preproduction continues as we speak. The writing team of PJ,FW,PB and myself will keep moving the screenplays forward.

Perhaps even sooner than we may anticipate we will all look at the finished film and then- I will tear up whenever I recognize a set or a creature or a quirk created under my supervision. Everyone on these boards will get two movies. Me? I will be watching filmic family albums. Photos of my children from far away.

I hope you will understand how delicate the subject is for me.

I will drop by now and then, I will read the boards with interest and do hope to see some of you around at SDCC and many other places.

I am not here, however, to provide a blow-by-blow of what happened, but to assure you, as I have, that it has been the toughest situation of my life.

Beyond that- I am simply no longer an official voice for these projects. Be good, be well- and I invite you all to follow me into the next phase of my filmmaking journey.

Sincerely

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Tim Burton
Tim Burton’s grasp of magic and high weirdness is initially encouraging to fans, but doubt sets in when Johnny Depp is brought on to play Gandalf and decides to base his portrayal on eccentric celebrity Ozzy Osbourne. When Helena Bonham Carter is tapped to play Gollum, hopes take a dive, and the final product is praised for its bold use of color and shapes, but criticized for introducing a 10-minute dream sequence in which Bilbo is chased by a giant ring in a clown suit.

Terry Gilliam
The first stills to come out of the production are very promising, but Terry Gilliam’s famed bad luck comes into play when, over the course of a single week, a fire destroys the Smaug set, a flash flood wipes out Lake Town, Thorin Oakenshield develops spasmodic dysphonia, and the special-effects budget is cut to about half that of Big Momma’s House 3. The movie as released, while flawed and a commercial failure, nonetheless becomes a cult favorite among film students and fisheye lens salesmen.

George Lucas
George Lucas decides that this Lord of the Rings prequel is lacking a certain something, and changes the plot to be about Sauron’s early life as an adorable toddler caught in the middle of a continent-spanning dispute over water rights. Also, Sauron’s best friend is an orc with an exaggerated Mexican accent named Boopily Boodily Moop. The resulting film is a failure on every conceivable level, although somehow this doesn’t prevent Lucas from producing a related Cartoon Network series called Ultimate Ring Force.

Michael Bay
While the film is visually impressive, most viewers can’t recall Middle-earth being quite so explosion-prone in the books. In particular, the opening scene — in which Bilbo, instead of providing food and drinks for 13 dwarves, must escape from his shuddering, collapsing hobbit hole, diving from the exit just as Bag End goes up in a massive eruption of lava and stone — is singled out as being “somewhat over the top.” Every geek goes to see it, every geek hates it, and every geek goes to see it again just in case they didn’t hate it enough the first time.

Uwe Boll
The movie garners less criticism than any previous Uwe Boll film, mostly because at this point everyone’s given up on even watching Uwe Boll films. However, Uwe Boll himself goes to see it, and posts some minor criticisms on a web forum. When he reads his own comments, Uwe Boll becomes enraged and challenges himself to a bare-knuckled MMA match. The resulting video of Uwe Boll spending two hours beating himself up is a critical and commercial hit, providing Uwe Boll with his first and only Oscar, for Best Concussion Based on an Original Screenplay.



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Sauce: http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/de/ne.../news_51264.php
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Images from set contruction on The Hobbit have appeared online, courtesy of the German fansite Herr-der-Ringe-Film.de.

The site, written in German, reports that these images were taken last month in New Zealand. While they do precede the recent departure of Guillermo del Toro as director, they also provide a fairly good look at exactly how much work has already been done on the films.

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The proposed “Hobbit” films are having problems. Problems is putting it mildly. First MGM went bust, Guillermo Del Toro left the movie
in favor of other projects, and then there is the well-publicized standoff between director Peter Jackson and a variety of unions. Add to that an estimated $500 million dollar price tag, and you might start to wonder if this is actually ever going to happen.

And things are only getting worse.

Yesterday flames gutted the New Zealand workshop set that would have been used for Jackson’s embattled adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien’s beloved novel.

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It took 50 firefighters three hours to quell the blaze in Wellington. All that’s left now is a burned-out warehouse at Jackson’s Portsmouth Miniatures Studio which had been used in the past as a specialist miniatures shooting facility, one of the few in the world, to create special effects for his “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy and “King Kong”.


With everything that the production of “The Hobbit” has endured so far, it is no wonder that the media is making frequent references to “The Curse of The Hobbit”. However, even with the laundry list of impediments, the production could begin shooting as early as mid-January.

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^Flames now engulfing? What next? Is it as if something or someone does not want the film to happen.

BTW, I definitely believe the movie will be completed and I'm confident it will be great.



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The first three “Lord of the Rings” films are legendary, but they might be nothing compared to the behind-the-scenes turmoil that has gone on with the upcoming two “Hobbit” movies. After years of problems (and still more problems left to be resolved), Peter Jackson’s two “Hobbit” movies have now been given the official greenlight, with production set for as early as February of next year.

Jackson will once again direct both films with a combined budget of $400 million, with $30 million of that already sank into pre-production on the film’s New Zealand sets. Of course, whether the films will actually shoot in New Zealand remains to be seen given the labor issues the production is currently still mired in.

Of the cast, only Sir Ian McKellan is officially back as Gandalf, with Martin Freeman rumored to be the frontrunner for the lead, the hobbit Bilbo Baggins. With the greenlight given, expect the first part of “The Hobbit” to land in theaters by December 19, 2012, followed by part two in the following year.

That is, unless something else comes up to sabotage the production. You know, like maybe meteorites from outer space, or mole men from the Earth’s core. Hey, this is the “Hobbit”, it could happen.

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The Hobbit Casting Official Announcement: Yes, Martin Freeman is Bilbo Baggins

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With “The Hobbit” set to shoot early next year, the studio has released an official announcement on the film’s casting. And yes, as expected, Martin Freeman (left) is indeed playing Bilbo Baggins, played by Ian Holm in the first three “Lord of the Rings” films. The major casting also includes Richard Armitage (below, right) as Thorin Oakenshield, Aidan Turner as Kili, and Rob Kazinsky as Fili.

Press release below:

Martin Freeman, Richard Armitage, Rob Kazinsky, Aidan Turner, Graham McTavish, John Callen, Stephen Hunter, Mark Hadlow and Peter Hambleton have joined the ensemble cast of The Hobbit, it was jointly announced today by Toby Emmerich, President and Chief Operating Officer, New Line Cinema; Alan Horn, President and Chief Operating Officer, Warner Bros.; Steve Cooper, co-Chief Executive Officer of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., and Peter Jackson.

Since The Hobbit films received a green light on October 15, pre-production has been in full swing. Set for release in December, 2012 and December, 2013, we can confirm that Martin Freeman (The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Hot Fuzz) will play Bilbo Baggins, the hero of the story. Richard Armitage (UK TV’s “MI-5″ and soon to appear in Captain America: The First Avenger) is set to play Thorin Oakenshield, the leader of the Company of Dwarves which sets off to reclaim the Lonely Mountain from a thieving dragon.

“Despite the various rumors and speculation surrounding this role, there has only ever been one Bilbo Baggins for us,” says Peter Jackson. “There are a few times in your career when you come across an actor who you know was born to play a role, but that was the case as soon as I met Martin. He is intelligent, funny, surprising and brave – exactly like Bilbo and I feel incredibly proud to be able to announce that he is our Hobbit.”

He adds: “Richard is one of the most exciting and dynamic actors working on screen today and we know he is going to make an amazing Thorin Oakensheild. We cannot wait to start this adventure with him and feel very lucky that one of the most beloved characters in Middle-earth is in such good hands.”

Rounding out the Company of Dwarves are Aidan Turner (TV’s “Being Human”) and Rob Kazinsky (TVs “EastEnders”) who play Kili and Fili, respectively. Jackson comments, “Rob is an extremely talented young actor with a huge career in front of him, I’m thrilled that he has agreed to take on the role of Fili. Besides his talent as an actor, Rob is also a champion sword fighter; I’m looking forward to seeing the damage he can do to a horde of marauding Goblins!” He continues, “Adian is a wonderfully gifted young actor who hails from Ireland. I’m sure he will bring enormous heart and humor to the role of Kili.”

The remaining dwarves will be played by Graham McTavish (Secretariat and TV’s “24″) as Dwalin; John Callen (TV’s “Power Rangers Jungle Fury”) as Oin; Stephen Hunter (TV’s “All Saints”) as Bombur; Mark Hadlow (King Kong) as Dori; and Peter Hambleton (TV’s “The Strip”) as Gloin.

Jackson notes, “Graham is a terrific actor, with a great depth of experience, which I know he will bring to the role of “Dwalin. I have worked with Mark Hadlow on many projects; he is a fantastic actor. I am thrilled to be working with both of them on these movies. He adds, “I am also proud to announce the casting of New Zealand actors as Peter Hambleton, John Callen and Stephen Hunter. Fran and I know that they will bring great depth and talent to our Company of Dwarves.”

The two “The Hobbit” films are being co-produced by New Line Cinema and MGM, with New Line managing production, Warner Bros Pictures handling domestic distribution and MGM distributing internationally. Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Carolynne Cunningham are producing the films, with Phillipa Boyens serving as co-producer and Ken Kamins as executive producer.

The Oscar-winning, critically acclaimed LOTR trilogy, also from the production team of Jackson, Walsh and Cunningham, grossed nearly $3 billion worldwide at the box office. In 2003, Return of the King swept the Academy Awards, winning all of the 11 categories in which it was nominated, including Best Picture — the first-ever Best Picture win for a fantasy film. The trilogy’s production was also unprecedented at the time.

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Apparently Cate Blanchett’s “Lord of the Rings” character Galadriel doesn’t actually appear in J.R.R Tolkien’s “The Hobbit” book, but that’s not going to stop Peter Jackson from casting her in the two films anyway. Hey, when you can get Cate Blanchett in your movie, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, source material or not.

Besides Blanchett, Jackson also announced new castmembers:

Ken Stott (“Charlie Wilson’s War”) will play the Dwarf Lord Balin; Sylvester McCoy (“Doctor Who”) will play the wizard Radagast the Brown; Swedish actor Mikael Persbrandt will play the shape-shifting bear-man Beorn; British actor Ryan Gage will play Drogo Baggins; and New Zealand actors Jed Brophy and William Kircher will play the dwarves Nori and Bifur, respectively.

Missing from the list is Sir Ian McKellan, who has already stated that he will return as Gandalf in “The Hobbit” films.

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After the announcement that Cate Blanchet will appear in Peter Jackson’s two film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Hobbit”, reprising her “Lord of the Rings” role as Galadriel (even though Galadriel isn’t in “The Hobbit”), a rumor started circulating that Orlando Bloom is “near a deal to return as Elven archer Legolas”. Similarly to Galadriel, Legolas is nowhere to be found in “The Hobbit”. Strange, considering that the role will be reportedly be “more than a cameo”.

Elves are immortal, so if they try hard enough, they’ll find a way to work Galadriel and Legolas into the story without age being a problem. Maybe they’ll show up near the conclusion as a way to tie the two “Hobbit” movies to the “Lord of the Rings” trilogy.

There is still no word on whether Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, and Hugo Weaving, will reprise appear as Gandalf, Gollum, and Elrond, respectively, all of whom figure prominently in both “The Hobbit” and “Lord of the Rings”. It’s odd that so much effort is being expended on two roles that don’t appear in the book, instead of focusing on securing the lynchpins of the series. Then again, that stuff is probably going on behind closed doors and everything will work out eventually.



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He doesn’t actually appear in the J.R.R. Tolkien novel, but that isn’t going to keep Peter Jackson and Elijah Wood from putting diminutive but heroic hobbit Frodo Baggins into the two “Hobbit” movies anyway. According to reports, Wood is already in negotiations to reprise his famous role, and TheOneRing.net has further details about how Frodo will appear in the movie.

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Now the big question is, what’s a Frodo Baggins appearance without Sam (Sean Astin)? The two were practically inseparable in the first three movies, and I dare say, Sam held their storyline together while ol Frodo just looked all glassy eyed and whatnot.



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No surprise here. Andy Serkis has signed a deal to return as Gollum in Peter Jackson’s two “Hobbit” movies. He’ll be joining Martin Freeman, playing a younger version of Bilbo Baggins, along with Elijah Wood, last reported to be reprising Frodo Baggins in the two movies. Ian McKellen, after a lot of surprising maybe/maybe-not, is now also officially back as the wizard Gandalf.

Also expected back: Cate Blanchett as Galadriel and Christopher Lee as Saruman. Orlando Bloom was previously rumored to also be back as Legalos, but that’s still up in the air. Both Galadriel and Legalos don’t actually appear in J.R.R. Tolkien’s source novel, but that didn’t stop Jackson from including Frodo in the upcoming movie anyway.

The premise of “The Hobbit” movies follows Freeman’s Bilbo, who is on an epic quest with Gandalf and 13 dwarves led by their King, Thorin Oakenshield (to be played by Richard Armitage), to reclaim the Lonely Mountain and strike down the talking dragon Smaug (possibly voiced by Bill Nighy, whose participation is also up in the air).

It’s during this journey that Bilbo runs across a little ring that everyone seems to want in that “Lord of the Rings” trilogy that came out a little while back. Serkis’ Gollum, of course, really, really wants that ring back.

Peter Jackson and company commences the back-to-back production starting in February 14 on location in New Zealand.




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weeeeeeeeeeeeee..

cant wait to see it!!


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It'll work as long as the LOTR cast return. Gosh... Frodo, Sam, Pippin, Merry, Gandalf... Gollum! Back again!

Imagine the advancement of the CG (Weta Digital). Gollum looking better than ever.



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The director is recovering after undergoing surgery for a perforated ulcer in New Zealand.

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Filming on The Hobbit has been pushed back a bit after director Peter Jackson was admitted to a New Zealand hospital with acute stomach pains.

Jackson went to to Wellington Hospital on Wednesday night and underwent surgery for a perforated ulcer, according to a statement from the production. He is said to be resting comfortably, and doctors expect him to make a full recovery.

"Sir Peter's surgery is not expected to impact on his directing commitment to The Hobbit beyond a slight delay to the start of filming," according to the statement.

Filming was scheduled to start sometime next month.

It's the latest hurdle for the production, which has suffered previous director Guillermo Del Toro's departure, followed by various labor and financial issues that plagued the studios behind it.


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Two Part Hobbit Movie Gets Two New Titles

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Finally the production starts. Can't wait for it even though it is 2012 n 2013 release. rclxms.gif

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OMG... the memories of the long winded production diaries of 3 mega monstrous LOTR movies! rclxms.gif

I could almost shed manly tears... biggrin.gif

PJ looks like he put on some weight. Gosh, amazing... Richard Taylor + PJ = The awesomest props ever


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OMG... the memories of the long winded production diaries of 3 mega monstrous LOTR movies!  rclxms.gif

I could almost shed manly tears...  biggrin.gif

PJ looks like he put on some weight. Gosh, amazing... Richard Taylor + PJ = The awesomest props ever
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Peter Jackson, Lord of Middle Earth, has confirmed via Facebook that Orlando Bloom, who played Legolas in the three “Lord of the Rings” films, will indeed be reprising his warrior elf in “The Hobbit” movies. Writes Jackson:

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Ten years ago, Orlando Bloom created an iconic character with his portrayal of Legolas. I’m excited to announce today that we’ll be revisiting Middle Earth with him once more. I’m thrilled to be working with Orlando again. Funny thing is, I look older—and he doesn’t! I guess that’s why he makes such a wonderful elf.

So in case you were wondering, “Hobbit” fans, wonder no more.

As with most of the “LOTR” characters returning to the prequel “Hobbit” films, Legolas doesn’t actually appear in the “Hobbit” novel by J.R.R. Tolkien. Then again, since most of these people are hundreds of years old, there’s really nothing to stop Jackson from appearing anyway.




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The triumvirate of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures and MGM have made it official via the upcoming films’ Facebook page: the first “Hobbit” movie, due out on December 14, 2012, will be titled “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”, while the sequel, due out almost exactly one year later on December 13, 2013, will be called “The Hobbit: There and Back Again”.

The announcement also provided the official cast list:

Ian McKellen returns as Gandalf the Grey, the character he played in “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy, and Martin Freeman, who just won a BAFTA TV Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the BBC series “Sherlock,” takes on the central role of Bilbo Baggins.

Also reprising their roles from “The Lord of the Rings” movies are: Cate Blanchett as Galadriel; Orlando Bloom as Legolas; Ian Holm as the elder Bilbo; Christopher Lee as Saruman; Hugo Weaving as Elrond; Elijah Wood as Frodo; and Andy Serkis as Gollum.

The ensemble cast also includes (in alphabetical order) Richard Armitage, Jed Brophy, Adam Brown, John Callen, Stephen Fry, Ryan Gage, Mark Hadlow, Peter Hambleton, Stephen Hunter, William Kircher, Sylvester McCoy, Bret McKenzie, Graham McTavish, Mike Mizrahi, James Nesbitt, Dean O’Gorman, Lee Pace, Mikael Persbrandt, Conan Stevens, Ken Stott, Jeffrey Thomas, and Aidan Turner.

The first unexpected journey is already underway, with Peter Jackson directing.




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Benedict Cumberbatch, owner of the best damn name in the history of British television, will be playing not one, but two characters in Peter Jackson’s “The Hobbit Part 1: An Unexpected Journey” (yeah, still not a fan of that title). Deadline reports that the “Sherlock” actor will be providing the voice and motion-capture for the dragon Smaug, pissed off cup owner in the first “Hobbit” movie, as well as provide the voice for Necromancer.

As I recall, Cumberbatch’s involvement in “The Hobbitt” was spoiled by his “Sherlock” and “The Hobbit” star Martin Freeman weeks ago back stage at a British Awards ceremony, though the exact specifics escapes me. Now you can take it to the bank — the Cumberbatch is doing The Hobbit.

Another casting note: Luke Evans will play Bard.

Besides Freeman, Cumberbatch joins Ian McKellen, Richard Armitage, Ken Stott, Graham McTavish, William Kircher, James Nesbitt, Stephen Hunter, Rob Kazinsky, Aidan Turner, Peter Hambleton, John Callen, Jed Brophy, Mark Hadlow, Adam Brown, Cate Blanchett, Andy Serkis, Elijah Wood, Jeffrey Thomas, and Mike Mizrahi.

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Peter Jackson is taking this whole social networking thing seriously, which is good news for those of you dying to know every little bit of news from the director’s New Zealand set of “The Hobbit”. Jackson has recently updated fans about the progress of “The Hobbit” movies via Facebook (he’s finished “first block of shooting and moved straight into location scouting”), and has announced two new additions to the cast (as well as confirming the recent additions of Luke Evans as Bard and Benedict Cumberbatch as the dragon Smaug).

Up first, “Lost’s” Evangeline Lilly (also in the upcoming “Real Steel” with Hugh Jackman”) will play a new character name Tauriel, a Woodland Elf whose name means “daughter of Mirkwood”. Lilly is following in the footsteps of her “Lost” co-star and one-time beau Dominic Monaghan, who played Merry on the three “Lord of the Rings” films before landing on The Island. Hoping to cut off fan rumors, Jackman says Lilly’s character has no connection to Orlando Bloom’s Legolas, who will also be making an appearance in the prequels, though it’s unclear how big of a role that will be.

The other new castmember is Barry Humphries, who will be playing The Goblin King, “in much the way Andy Serkis created Gollum.” You might better know Humphries as his alter ego, Dame Edna Everage. Or not.

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I read a snippet Evangeline had been casted in the movie. I was sure she would play an Elf and she does. Pointy ears, and she is Elf-ready !


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Check out three more official looks at Peter Jackson’s upcoming “The Hobbit”, starring Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins, the Hobbit who started it all, along with Ian McKellan as Gandalf, chillin’ underneath a tree as he is wont to do in his free time. Part 1 comes out next year, followed by Part 2 the year after that.

“The Hobbit” follows the journey of title character Bilbo Baggins, who is swept into an epic quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor, which was long ago conquered by the dragon Smaug. Approached out of the blue by the wizard Gandalf the Grey, Bilbo finds himself joining a company of thirteen dwarves led by the legendary warrior, Thorin Oakensheild. Their journey will take them into the Wild; through treacherous lands swarming with Goblins and Orcs, deadly Wargs and Giant Spiders, Shapeshifters and Sorcerers. Although their goal lies to the East and the wastelands of the Lonely Mountain first they must escape the goblin tunnels, where Bilbo meets the creature that will change his life forever… Gollum. Here, alone with Gollum, on the shores of an underground lake, the unassuming Bilbo Baggins not only discovers depths of guile and courage that surprise even him, he also gains possession of Gollum’s “precious” ring that holds unexpected and useful qualities… A simple, gold ring that is tied to the fate of all Middle-earth in ways Bilbo cannot begin to know.

Part 1, “An Unexpected Journey” stars Martin Freeman, Ian McKellen, Richard Armitage, Ken Stott, Graham McTavish, William Kircher, James Nesbitt, Stephen Hunter, Rob Kazinsky, Aidan Turner, Peter Hambleton, John Callen, Jed Brophy, Mark Hadlow, Adam Brown, Cate Blanchett, Andy Serkis, Elijah Wood, Jeffrey Thomas, and Mike Mizrahi, and travels into theaters December 19, 2012.


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If you’re going to see Steven Spielberg’s “The Adventures of Tintin”, you may find yourself staring at a trailer for Peter Jackson’s “The Hobbit”, a motion picture that I am almost literally foaming at the mouth to see. What’s more, the latest issue of Empire contains the image you see below, which, obviously, is a picture of Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins from “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey”. Don’t have access to Empire? Don’t fret — the image lies below.

The film opens on December 14th, 2012.

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Yes.... Let the journey begin again....

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Goodness! I can't wait. The year 2001, 2002 and 2003 was the most exciting year, personnally, due to The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
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Where's Legolas?
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I can't wait any longer for this movie! Read "The Hobbit" novel thrice already!
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i dont read the book..compare to lotr, which one is good?
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Honestly, both are equally great! I read through the trilogy twice only coz it's really long. The Hobbit was actually short, really. Could finish the book within a week.

From the trailer alone I can see some of my favorite chapters from the book, like "roast mutton" and "riddles in the dark". smile.gif

and oh, I hope they make "The Silmarillion" movie too. It's really interesting as Sauron is only a lieutenant to his master Lord Morgoth.
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The Hobbit is a better read. Shorter, easier, better narrative and phrasing and good pacing.

LOTR has better mythology, with the War of the Ring, etc.
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People are talking about the 48 frames per second technology that jackson used in the hobbit. He said the image quality is better, sharper and livelier. And you wont see the usual motion blur in movies. But some people dont like it too much. Saying the "magic of films" are gone.

Oh well gotta wait till december then. And i do hope that malaysian cinema operators can adopt to the 48fps movie, wouldnt want to miss that!
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BURBANK, Calif. (AP) — Peter Jackson is adding a third film to what was planned to be the two-part series "The Hobbit."
The director of the Oscar-winning "The Lord of the Rings" movies said Monday that after viewing a cut of the first film and part of the second that there was room for a third.

Jackson says in a statement that a lot of J.R.R. Tolkien's tale of Bilbo Baggins would remain untold if a third film wasn't made. The films are set in the fictional world of Middle-earth 60 years before "The Lord of the Rings."

"We recognized that the richness of the story of 'The Hobbit,' as well as some of the related material in the appendices of 'The Lord of the Rings,' gave rise to a simple question: do we tell more of the tale?" Jackson said in a statement. "And the answer from our perspective as filmmakers and fans was an unreserved 'yes.' "

"We know how much of the tale of Bilbo Baggins, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur would remain untold if we did not fully realize this complex and wonderful adventure," he said.

Warner Bros. and MGM will continue their partnership to make the trilogy.

The first film, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," hits theaters Dec. 14, while the second, "The Hobbit: There and Back Again" is set for release on Dec. 13, 2013.

The third film will come out in the summer of 2014.

All three movies are being shot in digital 3-D in New Zealand, which is home to Jackson's Weta Digital special effects house. Principal photography recently finished on the first two films.

Jackson, his wife Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens and Guillermo del Toro are listed as co-writers of the first two films.

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IMO 2 part will be just nice, cos unlike LOTR is consist of 3 books, hence the trilogy
whereas Hobbit just a single book, and waaaaay much shorter than any book in LOTR trilogy

1st part : the start of journey, Orc in the forest + lost in cave + Gollum
2nd part : escape from cave + smaug encounter & battle
3rd part : post Smaug + battle of 5 armies?
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Pete mentioned that they took a lot of elements from the appendices. I'm guessing the third film will be the bridge film connecting The Hobbit and LOTR.
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to bridge the gap between Hobbit & LOTR?

IMO not much gap there actually... hmm.gif

I won't be surprised if PJ decided to film Silmarillion next thumbup.gif
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to bridge the gap between Hobbit & LOTR?

IMO not much gap there actually... hmm.gif

I won't be surprised if PJ decided to film Silmarillion next thumbup.gif
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The main part of Silmarillion involves Sauron's master, Melkor waging war against the great ancient elves and men. So focusing only on Sauron would be cutting out a majority of the story.

Honestly, I imagine it would take at least 5 movies to make the Silmarillion.
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We already know that “The Hobbit Part 1″ will be subtitled “An Unexpected Journey”, and we thought we knew that “The Hobbit Part 2″ will be called “There and Back Again”. Well, not anymore.

Part 1 will still be called “An Unexpected Journey”, but now that Peter Jackson and company have added a third installment to their formerly two-parter adaptation of the J.R.R. Tolkien book, the second movie will now be called “The Hobbit Part 2: The Desolation of Smaug”, while “The Hobbit Part 3″ will take over “Part 2′s’” old subtitle, “There and Back Again”.

Part 2 will now be released on December 13, 2013, a full year after the first movie later this year, while your wait for Part 3 won’t be quite as long, wrapping things up on in the Summer on July 18, 2014.

So, to sum up:

“The Hobbit Part 1: An Unexpected Journey” – December 19, 2012
“The Hobbit Part 2: The Desolation of Smaug” – December 13, 2013
“The Hobbit Part 3: There and Back Again” – July 18, 2014

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LoL. This thread so quite. tongue.gif

Latest production video from PJ. I think this is the last one before film release next month, 13th Dec.




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Any news of any events or premiere or preview here in Malaysia ?
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Maybe can ask TGV to do LOTR Marathon again? lol


Anyway, I just asked TGV on Facebook regarding the availability of HFR 3D for local cinemas, and they said HFR 3D for The Hobbit will be available. Not sure whether they confuse the normal 3D with HFR 3D, but if this true, then great~! thumbup.gif
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PJ speech at Hobbit Premiere :



cant wait for The Hobbit release

time to do a LOTR EE Blu-rays marathon biggrin.gif

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When is the first date for premier of The Hobbit here? Is it on the 11th of December?
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When is the first date for premier of The Hobbit here? Is it on the 11th of December?
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13th smile.gif
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13th  smile.gif
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I mean premiere.
Just bought 4 tickets for 11th December rclxms.gif
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Good news guyz. The Hobbit in HFR (48fps) 3D format will be screened by TGV Cinemas next month. rclxms.gif

Source: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...emas-next-year/


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What about gsc? Will they be screening the hobbit at 48fps?
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What about gsc? Will they be screening the hobbit at 48fps?
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Please be informed that the team in charge is working on it on selected cinemas. Kindly do visit our website and facebook for the latest update.

Should you need further clarifications, please feel free to email or contact me at 03-7806 8888 (Mon – Fri, 9am -6pm).

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Would this be better to watch in the 3d or imax version/
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Dec 3 2012, 11:20 AM)
I mailed GSC last week, and they replied the following:
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Very interesting. I wonder which GSC location will have this. I've seen 48fps on an LCD TV demonstration before. It is so smooth that everything is weird. It is so un-movie like.


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The intention of Peter Jackson for this movie:

HFR 3D and Dolby Atmos.

the nearest Atmos available? The Embassy Theatre at Wellington New Zealand. sad.gif The oddpart is having the distributor saying Cinemas can handle HFR 3D here! But we're close to 1 week away from the release. Well, we can only hope no delays. sad.gif
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Got reply from TGV for HFR 3D-ready cinema list:

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Hi Ninja, we will be screening The Hobbit 3D in 48fps at TGV KLCC, Sunway, Bukit Tinggi, Tebrau City, SetiaWalk & Wangsa Walk. Please stay tuned for more updates on the tickets advance sales ya. Thanks!

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QUOTE(Ninja @ Dec 5 2012, 11:07 AM)
Got reply from TGV for HFR 3D-ready cinema list:
Hi Ninja, we will be screening The Hobbit 3D in 48fps at TGV KLCC, Sunway, Bukit Tinggi, Tebrau City, SetiaWalk & Wangsa Walk. Please stay tuned for more updates on the tickets advance sales ya. Thanks!

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Got anymore updates bro?
How to know which screening is 48fps? I'm assuming all IMAX screenings at Sunway will be 48fps, right?

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Weird, GSC lists the 3D as 3 minutes shorter than the 2D version.
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Got anymore updates bro?
How to know which screening is 48fps? I'm assuming all IMAX screenings at Sunway will be 48fps, right?
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Got the following update from TGV. Apparently, IMAX version will be 24fps only, not 48fps. Normal 3D will feature 48fps.

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Hi Ninja, just to update, we apologise for the info given earlier. We have received an updated info that IMAX The Hobbit will be screening in 24fps instead of 48fps. However, we will be screening normal 3D in 48fps in TGV KLCC, Sunway, Bukit Tinggi, Tebrau City, 1Utama, SetiaWalk, Wangsa Walk. Thanks!

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Yes... normal 3D available in 1U with 48fps! biggrin.gif
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Good to know GSC also has it.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2012, 09:55 AM)
Good to know GSC also has it.
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Wowww... Cinema Online gave 5 out 5! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

http://www.cinema.com.my/movies/movie_cont...§ion=review

can wait for this thursday! wohooo
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GSC Online ticketing already started selling The Hobbit tickets. But no info given whether 3D show is 24fps or 48fps.

TGV still not up yet.
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Singapore Golden Village has Atmos version...

dont know which format I should watch. IMAX HFR 3D (SGD20) / 3D Atmos (SGD11) / HFR 3D (SGD11)
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Alright, gonna watch The Hobbit on Wednesday TGV 1U (3D)

Way to go..


Added on December 10, 2012, 11:54 pm
QUOTE(Ninja @ Dec 5 2012, 11:07 AM)
Got reply from TGV for HFR 3D-ready cinema list:
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Why didn't mention TGV 1U???


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Singapore Golden Village has Atmos version...

dont know which format I should watch. IMAX HFR 3D (SGD20) / 3D Atmos (SGD11) / HFR 3D (SGD11)
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Newly launched TGV 1U also doesn't have ..sad.gif


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is the 3D version showing in GSC MAXX at times square 48FPS version ?
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Got the following update from TGV. Apparently, IMAX version will be 24fps only, not 48fps. Normal 3D will feature 48fps.
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BTW 1Utama TGV already opened?
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Officially on this Thursday. smile.gif
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Officially on this Thursday. smile.gif
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Now can watch IMAX there, no need to go to Sunway anymore, traffic there so congested shakehead.gif
1utama sometimes got jam also, but not as bad as Sunway.
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Dec 11 2012, 11:37 AM)
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Now can watch IMAX there, no need to go to Sunway anymore, traffic there so congested shakehead.gif
1utama sometimes got jam also, but not as bad as Sunway.
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I feel it's the other way around. And I ride a bike. laugh.gif
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Oh maybe because my house closer abit to 1utama that's why feel better. If Sunway have to go through federal or NPE always jam rclxub.gif

So if watch hobbit IMAX = got Star Trek preview

hobbit 3D= Got 48fps version

not sure which one to watch hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Dec 11 2012, 11:25 AM)
Thanks bro!

BTW 1Utama TGV already opened?
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Yes, opened, I watch tomorrow (The Hobbit) rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Dec 11 2012, 11:25 AM)
Thanks bro!

BTW 1Utama TGV already opened?
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I wonder why would TGV respond saying 48fps is available among other locations, in 1U... hmm.gif

It is still "Opening Soon" for TGV at 1U.

Wait... open already? Yes! No need go to the ridiculous-sardine-packed roads to Sunway Pyramid for IMAX... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 11 2012, 12:43 PM)
I wonder why would TGV respond saying 48fps is available among other locations, in 1U...  hmm.gif 

It is still "Opening Soon" for TGV at 1U.
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Don't care about OPENING SOON, I watch tomorrow, fair enough... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Dec 11 2012, 11:37 AM)
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Now can watch IMAX there, no need to go to Sunway anymore, traffic there so congested shakehead.gif
1utama sometimes got jam also, but not as bad as Sunway.
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According to TGV, IMAX OU is bigger than Sunway (72-feet vs 57-feet wide).


Anyway, time to memorize these guyz~ lol

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I wonder on the height now rather than the width.


Added on December 11, 2012, 2:47 pm"As you can see, traditional dimensions for a genuine IMAX screen are 76' x 97', whereas these newfangled ones are 28' x 58' or thereabouts. Just as important, faux-IMAX screens use dual digital projectors rather than projecting 70-mm film, per true IMAX standards."

So if according to this dude... We're half way through the original IMAX screen?

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anyone have the lists of GSC/TGV cinemas with HFR3D ?
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TGv you may refer to their facebook post.

GSC nothing yet. Or maybe they aren't doing that.
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Just a random pic from the upcoming 3rd part tongue.gif

Bard the bowman and Legolas....

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/12/06/hobb...do-bloom-photo/

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 11 2012, 03:12 PM)
TGv you may refer to their facebook post.

GSC nothing yet. Or maybe they aren't doing that.
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GSC cinemas hall still have many analog projectors. Even GSC Paradigm, not all the cinemas hall are running digital 2D..
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so confirmed TGV 3D version is 48FPS HFR 3D ?
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so confirmed TGV 3D version  is  48FPS HFR 3D ?
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went to the premiere at pv last night...
awesome movie!

tho some scene can tell purposely dragged for longer screentime

riddles riddles!
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only GSC PAVILION and THE GARDEN screen 48 FPS 3D as announced in fb
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Good news - just got word that the 48fps for "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" in GSC Pavilion KL and GSC Signature (The Gardens Mall) has been approved and tickets are now on sale. Will keep you all posted on more locations later.


from https://www.facebook.com/GSCinemas
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Wait... IMAX [3D] at TGV 1U - 48fps or 24fps? I am confused... Some say Normal 3D = 48fps, while some say IMAX = 24fps? Then it depends on location. hmm.gif

Anyhow... I booked for IMAX 3D at TGV 1U. IMAX at 1U... that's a dream (for me at least) for so long. biggrin.gif Swore never to go to Sunway Pyramid IMAX again. Will see how this IMAX works out, else it's fine anyways.

Ticket price is so expensive, RM30.


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At first I thought it was 7 rows, but it was actually 12. Seems like there's some issue with booking at the moment.

But 29 seats in a whole row. Now that's something.
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QUOTE(toytoybuysell @ Dec 12 2012, 05:59 PM)
went to the premiere at pv last night...
awesome movie!

tho some scene can tell purposely dragged for longer screentime

riddles riddles!
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wat is the technology required to play HFR 3D in cinema ?

do they need to install specific upgraded projectors /screen for it ?
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For GSC, you can check which hall is showing if you have an e-payment login. Once you've selected the cinema, the movie listing has an 'HFR' to distinguish between 24p and 48p.
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Gonna watch tonight! Yay. Hopefully we all wont be let down.

But not expecting it to be as amazing as LOTR trilogy
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Got my tickets and free 3D glasses. Gonna watch this afternoon in HFR 3D. thumbup.gif

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Hobbit giving out free 3D glasses ?
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It's more of the projector enables you to have disposable 3D glasses.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 12 2012, 08:36 PM)
Wait... IMAX [3D] at TGV 1U - 48fps or 24fps? I am confused... Some say Normal 3D = 48fps, while some say IMAX = 24fps? Then it depends on location.  hmm.gif

Anyhow... I booked for IMAX 3D at TGV 1U. IMAX at 1U... that's a dream (for me at least) for so long.  biggrin.gif  Swore never to go to Sunway Pyramid IMAX again. Will see how this IMAX works out, else it's fine anyways.

Ticket price is so expensive, RM30.
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Yup. Even the normal Couple Seats are usually RM 58. For this movie Sunway & 1U IMAX increased it to RM 68. rclxub.gif
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Gonna watch tonight! Yay. Hopefully we all wont be let down.

But not expecting it to be as amazing as LOTR trilogy
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I watched last nite at 1U, 3D 48fps. Video is amazing, very clear. Better than other 3D movie, I can say.

This one you guess correctly, don't expect it to be as amazing as LOTR ...anyway enjoy...
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QUOTE(Mickey C @ Dec 13 2012, 01:39 PM)
I watched last nite at 1U, 3D 48fps. Video is amazing, very clear. Better than other 3D movie, I can say.

This one you guess correctly, don't expect it to be as amazing as LOTR ...anyway enjoy...
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It was TGV 1U right? Dang it... should have booked for HFR3D then instead of IMAX 3D. Just needed assurance it was indeed in 48fps but oh well... at least I can compare this IMAX screen to the one in Sunway Pyramid.


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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 13 2012, 02:12 PM)
It was TGV 1U right? Dang it... should have booked for HFR3D then instead of IMAX 3D. Just needed assurance it was indeed in 48fps but oh well... at least I can compare this IMAX screen to the one in Sunway Pyramid.
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Yes, TGV 1U, I watched HFR3D. smile.gif Not IMAX...
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Yes, TGV 1U, I watched HFR3D. smile.gif Not IMAX...
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how was the experience ?
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 13 2012, 02:12 PM)
It was TGV 1U right? Dang it... should have booked for HFR3D then instead of IMAX 3D. Just needed assurance it was indeed in 48fps but oh well... at least I can compare this IMAX screen to the one in Sunway Pyramid.
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You're getting Star Trek Into Darkness for 9 minutes. Quit complaining. tongue.gif
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Eh... seriously? If that's the case, nice biggrin.gif I assumed our IMAX 3D is not getting it (I always assume 'we' don't get extra offerings).

Still interested in seeing how HFR3D feels though... perhaps second viewing if the film turns out to be great, or just about any excuse to watch again in HFR3D would do it.
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Very good, but I noticed Bilbo Baggins walking in his house seem pretty fast.... biggrin.gif


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Yes, I have mine & it made in KOREA... not China surprising.. smile.gif

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The real question right now is if Into Darkness is in 3D or 2D. Even if it's just post converted.
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The real question right now is if Into Darkness is in 3D or 2D. Even if it's just post converted.
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for me , normal 3D is very dark , definitely no no

will try out this HFR 3D to see if it really brings 3D viewing to another level


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The real question right now is if Into Darkness is in 3D or 2D. Even if it's just post converted.
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inm its shot in 2d then post convert to 3d.
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There is no Star Trek preview in Hobbit 3D IMAX in Sunway this morning. How can that be?
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There is no Star Trek preview in Hobbit 3D IMAX in Sunway this morning. How can that be?
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What...? sweat.gif Watching this film is kinda experimental, you got your IMAXes, your HFR3Ds, normal 3Ds, 2D and even plain old normal.

From what I've read, it isn't as triumphant as LOTR Trilogy, but it does well enough. Quite a number have called out the pacing of the film and the overall length of the film, citing the early parts of the film to be possibly 'flat' to some.
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QUOTE(viper76 @ Dec 13 2012, 04:14 PM)
There is no Star Trek preview in Hobbit 3D IMAX in Sunway this morning. How can that be?
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Did you complaint to TGV? Because they heavily marketed that last week.

What I meant was in this prologue. Not the whole movie.
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There is no Star Trek preview in Hobbit 3D IMAX in Sunway this morning. How can that be?
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on the other hand, they showed jack reacher's before screening of 3 different movies this week


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Post my complaint in TGV FB wall already.. Well I can guess what they will reply.. Hahaha..
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GAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh.. I cant wait to watch this movie in the cinema rclxm9.gif

Been waiting for a loooooooooong time.. Now i just need to wait for my partner then we can go watch.. yyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaa!! rclxm9.gif
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GAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh.. I cant wait to watch this movie in the cinema  rclxm9.gif

Been waiting for a loooooooooong time.. Now i just need to wait for my partner then we can go watch.. yyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaa!!  rclxm9.gif
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This movie is unexpectedly awesome! seriously i never thought it would be that good. I didn't realize the movie runtime is that long. lol. really can't wait for more. biggrin.gif

But but why laaa so long have to wait. haizzz. sad.gif
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Too me.. It was great movie but still not in par with the 1st LOTR trilogy.
The first hour was kind of bit draggy. To me some scenes is not neccesary yet (save for the extended version smile.gif )
Through out the movie I try to relate some scene, places and character to the LOTR. Hahaha.. That was fun.. But overall it was a good experience and can't wait for the next installment..
4/5 for me..
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the Hobbit =/= LOTR. We shud stop comparing. its unfair.
Both telling different stories but theyre historically connected.

Ive read the book long time ago and ive said Peter Jackson have smartly chose the scenes to to be as flat as the book. This first trilogy is meant to be the pilot of the 3.

If ure a fan of LOTR, some scene will raise the hair at the back of ur neck coz u know the relevance it has with the history of LOTR.
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great great movie

2D is superb. Really clear and impressed from the first moment the movie started

Overall how they shape up the movie was really good. So glad to have 3 parts in this trilogy. Just take my money Peter Jackson. Just take it
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it was so-so only. very boring at the beginning but action packed in the second half. not very fresh though. i can watch LOTRs all over again and get the same entertainment out of it
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I'm more interested in HFR3D feedback... so far it has been positive, but I wonder if the whole 'movie feel' is gone. The use of 48fps could be a turning point for film makers, even the Avatar sequels will be using this.

Can't wait to see this tomorrow night. I'm really hoping it is going to be a blast. Peter Jackson won't let me down, I know it.
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hey guy ,
which one is HFR3D in TGV ONE UTAMA ? btw , i've have Digital 2D last night already , i feel like want to watch HFR3D . what a wonderful journey
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Why oh whyyyy they don't have TGV in KK

damn I really want to see it on 48fps

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Seems like TGV IMAX have permanently increase their tickets price.

Normal Seat = RM30
Premium Seat = RM32
Couple Seat=RM 68

No justification given, just main increase only....
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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 14 2012, 02:37 AM)
it was so-so only. very boring at the beginning but action packed in the second half. not very fresh though. i can watch LOTRs all over again and get the same entertainment out of it
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JRR Tolkien wrote the Hobbit first as a children fantasy story.
While LOTR he wrote later, dark apocalyptic theme.

Totally different genre, but theyre connected

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which one is HFR3D in TGV ONE UTAMA ? btw , i've have Digital 2D last night already , i feel like want to watch HFR3D . what a wonderful journey
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Just select normal 3D, not the IMAX 3D. Normal 3D will feature 48fps.

Watched The Hobbit in 48fps yesterday, and I love it. Some may say it's like watching soap opera. For me it's like watching a hybrid of a movie and a live action performance. And it takes 3D to another level. It feels like you're inside Bilbo house for instance, or inside the battle itself. And you get less eye fatigue, less motion blur during fast scene. And you can see clearly during battle scene, so smooth and vivid. My fiance love it too and she's normally don't like to watch 3D due to the dim picture. The movie in 3D 48fps is brighter with much higher clarity like watching 2D.

But for certain CGI scene, since everything is so clear and vivid, you can see some flaw in the special effects, but does not detract the whole experience unless you're really nit-picking. tongue.gif

Overall, I think 48fps is the future if done right. The Hobbit is one of them, maybe not 100% perfect but they nailed it. Gonna watch in 48fps again this Saturday. biggrin.gif
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yup HFR 48fps is better 3d experience.
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Watched it last night.

Really really manly brotherhood kind of story. And it was unexpectingly great! biggrin.gif

For some people, it got too many all talk/dialoge scenes, but need to catch the phrase as there is many important message which related to LOTR lies within it.

and some spoiler that would not harm your eagerness/feel to watch the movie

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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I'm watching it 2D tonight. Hopefully it'll be good.


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Just select normal 3D, not the IMAX 3D. Normal 3D will feature 48fps.

Watched The Hobbit in 48fps yesterday, and I love it. Some may say it's like watching soap opera. For me it's like watching a hybrid of a movie and a live action performance. And it takes 3D to another level. It feels like you're inside Bilbo house for instance, or inside the battle itself. And you get less eye fatigue, less motion blur during fast scene. And you can see clearly during battle scene, so smooth and vivid. My fiance love it too and she's normally don't like to watch 3D due to the dim picture. The movie in 3D 48fps is brighter with much higher clarity like watching 2D.

But for certain CGI scene, since everything is so clear and vivid, you can see some flaw in the special effects, but does not detract the whole experience unless you're really nit-picking. tongue.gif

Overall, I think 48fps is the future if done right. The Hobbit is one of them, maybe not 100% perfect but they nailed it. Gonna watch in 48fps again this Saturday. biggrin.gif
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2d is still gonna be good.

I was in a bit of a shock coz LOTR was not in 3d before and finally watching middle earth in 3d kinna like disconnecting stuff abit.

Next im catching in on 2d smile.gif
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I'm watching it 2D tonight. Hopefully it'll be good.


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Man, you're making me regret choosing 2d ... sweat.gif
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You can still watch 48fps on your 2nd viewing. laugh.gif

General consensus is to watch 2D on first viewing to enjoy the story and watch 48fps on 2nd viewing to enjoy the technology, coz for some, they will be distracted with the sudden change of higher frame rate, and can't concentrate on the story. I felt that yesterday during the first half-an-hour coz it's the first time watching a movie so smooth, so vivid, and at the same time trying to focus on the story.
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I want HFR3D... cry.gif Bought 4 tickets to IMAX 3D (that's 4x RM30) without actually thinking about the whole 48fps thing. Only realized it AFTER buying, silly me. If no "Into The Darkness" 9-minute preview, some more hurt. Then again, it's my first IMAX 3D film. Why can't it be IMAX 3D in HFR3D.
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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 14 2012, 02:37 AM)
it was so-so only. very boring at the beginning but action packed in the second half. not very fresh though. i can watch LOTRs all over again and get the same entertainment out of it
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yup HFR 48fps is better 3d experience.
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Agree, HFR 48fps 3D is taking 3D into the next level.....

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 14 2012, 12:32 PM)
I want HFR3D...  cry.gif  Bought 4 tickets to IMAX 3D (that's 4x RM30) without actually thinking about the whole 48fps thing. Only realized it AFTER buying, silly me. If no "Into The Darkness" 9-minute preview, some more hurt. Then again, it's my first IMAX 3D film. Why can't it be IMAX 3D in HFR3D.
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Added on December 14, 2012, 3:21 pmAh 48FPS... You have truly changed everything I believe in movies. Of course, next would be Atmos. But that's not here yet, and probably won't be so soon.

But my simple take is that 48fps changes everything. I think it's A WAY to go. Definitely a new option to undertake like how IMAX movies are made. The shots taken were spectacular and evenly paced. Action does not become blurry (i'm looking at you Captain America) and everything looks smooth. Brightness uplifted and depth levels were astounding.

I had some issue trying to see what was real and what was CGI at times. Since it was successful in blurring that line, I felt more compelled to give it more another thumbs up.

As for the movie, never followed LOTR, but I wished I had more of Bilbo Baggins. Really did. Martin Freeman was amazing, although Armitage also gave a good one. I felt the screen time was equal to everyone.

But i felt there was some issue with editing. Mainly during the Goblin one.

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I want HFR3D...  cry.gif  Bought 4 tickets to IMAX 3D (that's 4x RM30) without actually thinking about the whole 48fps thing. Only realized it AFTER buying, silly me. If no "Into The Darkness" 9-minute preview, some more hurt. Then again, it's my first IMAX 3D film. Why can't it be IMAX 3D in HFR3D.
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All butthurt blaming TGV. Kesian...
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All butthurt blaming TGV. Kesian...
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In other words, it's only false because it's not proven true.

I'd blame FINAS. But hey, finger pointing never lead to anywhere anyways.
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So I was correct in assuming that 'we' don't usually get special offerings. Damn it... Next week might see the movie again in HFR3D if its really good, else, well, there isn't another film in 48fps anytime soon. I would really like to see it for myself. I've seen 48fps on an LCD TV demo before (I think it was 'Smooth Vision') and it looked really bizarre yet eerily life-like.
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Wow, totally burned. Luckily I'm watching 3D HFR (also TGV).

It's hard to say whose fault it is really. It could be TGV jumped the gun and sold the IMAX tickets saying it will have the 9 minute clip before waiting censorship confirmation. But then can you really blame them? This is their chance to make more $$ than GSC with their better IMAX.

Then again, not surprised if censorship decided to last minute say no, which usually comes just a few days before release date. Cinema manager always veli gan chiong when got advance ticket sales.

But kesian TGV kena TKK.
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just came bck from cinema..
watched 3D.. awesome!~

looking forward for the nex episode.. damn 2013


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The first 9 mins.. gt anything wrong meh? blink.gif

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Sh*t happens. It's not all that bad. Heck, didn't expect to have the 9-minute preview anyways. Got my hopes up and then back down again.
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QUOTE(kcishere @ Dec 14 2012, 05:20 PM)
Wow, totally burned. Luckily I'm watching 3D HFR (also TGV).

It's hard to say whose fault it is really. It could be TGV jumped the gun and sold the IMAX tickets saying it will have the 9 minute clip before waiting censorship confirmation. But then can you really blame them? This is their chance to make more $$ than GSC with their better IMAX.

Then again, not surprised if censorship decided to last minute say no, which usually comes just a few days before release date. Cinema manager always veli gan chiong when got advance ticket sales.

But kesian TGV kena TKK.
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I blamed both parties, but I blamed more to censorship board. Because this is not the first time they doing this, they always announce in the very last minute. I'm very sure TGV get the green light early on, but last minute get red light from the censor board. I remember the movie Drive starring Ryan Rosling, everything is okay, and this movie even showing in special premiere, but who will thought that, after the premiere this movie is banned. Funny right... So who to blame? No doubt censor board.....
So I think is very normal for our local censor board, anytime they can ban you. If they not like you, I think they will ban the whole movie, no showing for Star Trek Into Darkness...

You blow meh......
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QUOTE(Brian O'Connor @ Dec 14 2012, 12:06 PM)
Watched it last night.

Really really manly brotherhood kind of story. And it was unexpectingly great! biggrin.gif

For some people, it got too many all talk/dialoge scenes, but need to catch the phrase as there is many important message which related to LOTR lies within it.

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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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enjoyed it immensely.4/5
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I love it. I wouldn't expect how they managed to put a lot of plot inside this movie.

Surprised with Radagast. Well done peter jackson

I give it 4 out of 5
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 14 2012, 11:54 AM)
JRR Tolkien wrote the Hobbit first as a children fantasy story.
While LOTR he wrote later, dark apocalyptic theme.

Totally different genre, but theyre connected
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Yeah but the movie is practically the same thing with LOTR. Starts off at the Hobbit place with Gandalf, got into a journey and most likely gonna end predictably. There is no surprise but still decently entertaining although it's dragged up quite a bit.
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Guys, need your opinion, Imax sunway or 1 u, which is better?
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Can someone put up a sticky on where we can watch the movie in 48fps?
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3D, 48 fps : KLCC, Sunway Pyramid, Bukit Tinggi, Tebrau City ,1Utama, SetiaWalk (Puchong), Wangsa Walk, Bukit Indah, Rawang (locations not mentioned, will screen in 24 fps)
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GSC got only two places showing hfr 3D if I'm not mistaken, the gardens and pavilion
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really super enjoyed it yesterday...the song is one of the best for movie...
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hey guys. im selling 2 tickets for THE HOBBIT tonight at 9.15 in paradigm mall. d row, right side ,9,10 if im not mistaken.
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Watched 2D version at MBO KSL City, Johor.

Well, the picture judder a lot during the front landscape scene where camera pan around quickly showing the landscape and also some CGI scene.

Although is digital format but 24fps really do judder a lot in fast moving panning scene.

Will watch again in HFR 3D ver to experience the difference.


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I've finally watched it yesterday night and man I love it!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 15 2012, 04:42 AM)
Yeah but the movie is practically the same thing with LOTR. Starts off at the Hobbit place with Gandalf, got into a journey and most likely gonna end predictably. There is no surprise but still decently entertaining although it's dragged up quite a bit.
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Of course it started of with he Hobbits....the movie title is that! laugh.gif
Which is the draggy part? i think PJ chosen the scenes pretty well and everything is essential to the understanding of the plot
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Kinda boring for me...because the whole story is like expected already

But i like the first part about the history of dwarf in the begining, kinda like momment the prince carry piece of oak as a shield, fighting the pale creature.

What i like most about lord of the ring, is the scenary....kinda feel like, ahh....what if i live in such place
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QUOTE(Brian O'Connor @ Dec 14 2012, 12:06 PM)
Watched it last night.

Really really manly brotherhood kind of story. And it was unexpectingly great! biggrin.gif

For some people, it got too many all talk/dialoge scenes, but need to catch the phrase as there is many important message which related to LOTR lies within it.

and some spoiler that would not harm your eagerness/feel to watch the movie

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apparently if you look back to "the fellowship of the ring" . bilbo have mention the trolls talking within themself and tell the story to the children during bilbo birthday party and it happens in The Hobbit..

small details matter.. haha !

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There's nothing new offer in this prequel... I even almost slept in one of the fight scenes in the cinema hall... sweat.gif
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Just got back from the movie, TGV IMAX 3D.

The Cinema
I wanted to improve on my IMAX experience. I somehow managed to once again not get middle seats. I was going for 'center, center', but got 'left, center' instead. The screen was so huge, that I had to stretch my eyes to the right when there was something of interest on the right side. This was my fault as I should have booked earlier. The mountain fighting sequence was spectacular on IMAX.

Unfortunately, I noticed a significant amount of 'blurriness' and 'shakiness' to the film. I am not quite sure if it was due to me seated a bit too close or should have sat a row or two behind. There was plenty of noticeable pixelation on-screen, right from the beginning, this was a bit of a downer for me. sad.gif Maybe third times a charm in the future.

The 3D Value
It was present and there was quite a number of in-your-face moments... some of which even made me blink as the object felt like it was really being hurled at me. The mountain fighting sequence is worthy of being mentioned again. Peter Jackson's first 3D film and it didn't disappoint in the 3D department.

The Film
I went in knowing this is NOT LOTR Trilogy, it was more of a prequel, thus didn't get my hopes too high. In the end, I absolutely loved the film. It started out pretty slowly but quickly kicked into gear. The 'flashback' sequences were not entirely necessary but die hard LOTR fans would appreciate it like crazy. It was amazing to see Elijah Wood as Frodo, felt like I stepped into a time machine. The Shire looked breathtaking as before. Overall, the story was worth it and the feeling of an exciting and perilous adventure was there just like the LOTR trilogy. In other words, yes indeed "The Hobbit" managed to capture that same excitement as the trilogy. smile.gif This was something I was concerned about as the film could have easily gotten 'lost' what with the years gone by and perhaps PJ not having a golden touch as it was previously ("The Lovely Bones" wasn't particular great). Ahh... it was indeed, an adventure.

The Cast
To be honest, I barely know any of the actors who played the dwarves. Can't really remember the dwarves names except for a few. Once more, felt like stepping into a time machine when I saw Galadriel, Lord Elrond, hey, Gandalf of course! Ian McKellen looks really old (and not just Gandalf old). The cast was brilliant and overall, they delivered the goods. Great job on the casting. The dwarves were loud, nasty and downright rough playing bunch of 'laddies'(??).

The Visual Effects
Really worth the wait to see Gollum... gosh, I was telling myself look at Gollum, the nuances of Andy Serkis' expression captured milimetre perfectly. Time really has done well to improve on the visual effects, and Middle-Earth looked incredible. I believe by the standards that was in the film, it could be nominated for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars.

Final Verdict
It was worth the wait. LOTR fans rejoice. If you have seen the LOTR Trilogy and liked it (and why wouldn't you), this is one unmissable film. I cannot believe I have to wait a year to see part two, and then another year for part three.
Peter Jackson, you didn't let me down.

8.5/10

+ Worthy adventure that meets expectations
+ Stunning visual effects, Gollum never looked so real!
+ Brilliant cast
+ Awesome Howard Shore music score and right on cue on... 'precious' moments
+ 3D was worth it
- Pacing is somewhat of an issue, could have been put through another round of editing/trimming of the fats
- Action sequences can get confusing and...
- ...Overwhelmingly long
- IMAX bluriness and pixelation issues
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went to watch in IMAX 1 Utama earlier today, and the experience was not worth the ticket price at all.

fights were blurry
action scenes of any kind-and sweeping camera sequences were all blurry.
the only time the screen felt huge was when I first walked in. the moment the movie started, the screen felt the same as any other cinema screen. doh.gif

the only saving grace was the 3D and the audio.
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- Hey, where is Evangeline Lily?  hmm.gif
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Evangeline Lily will be in 'Desolation of Smaug'~ So, look out for her next year.

And also watch out for Peter Jackson cameo in 'Unexpected Journey'. He will appear during the introduction scene of Erebor, dressing as one of the dwarf. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Dec 16 2012, 01:45 AM)
went to watch in IMAX 1 Utama earlier today, and the experience was not worth the ticket price at all.

fights were blurry
action scenes of any kind-and sweeping camera sequences were all blurry.
the only time the screen felt huge was when I first walked in. the moment the movie started, the screen felt the same as any other cinema screen. doh.gif

the only saving grace was the 3D and the audio.
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Yeah, come to think of it, it is really not worth it. The one at 1U was really... fail. Pixelation and bluriness aplenty.


QUOTE(Ninja @ Dec 16 2012, 01:53 AM)
Evangeline Lily will be in 'Desolation of Smaug'~ So, look out for her next year.

And also watch out for Peter Jackson cameo in 'Unexpected Journey'. He will appear during the introduction scene of Erebor, dressing as one of the dwarf. laugh.gif
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Here is the first image released from the second instalment of the fantasy trilogy, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which comes out on December 26, 2013.

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There are people complaining about minor motion blurs and stuff. Please watch it in High Frame Rate then. It is wat Peter Jackson intend us to see anyway. I didn't like it... I prefer the minor blurs...
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it was very draggy and boring...my fren slept 80% of the movie..cant helped it..
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i watched it yesterday at GSC IMAX. some points are similar with defaultname365, so nothing to point out more, except this movie is awesome thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

and this is my first movie on IMAX 3D
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Movie is too long and not exciting enough to keep my attention..Not going to watch part 2 and 3 in cinema la!
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Dec 16 2012, 08:54 AM)
i watched it yesterday at GSC IMAX. some points are similar with defaultname365, so nothing to point out more, except this movie is awesome thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

and this is my first movie on IMAX 3D
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GSC has no IMAX laaa. Another person kena con thinking it was IMAX. Its Maxx, not IMAX.

And for those of you who says its blurry in 3D, thats why there is a HFR 3D release which is said to be much clearer.
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GSC has no IMAX laaa. Another person kena con thinking it was IMAX. Its Maxx, not IMAX.

And for those of you who says its blurry in 3D, thats why there is a HFR 3D release which is said to be much clearer.
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maybe gonna watch again at TGV KLCC, people says quality are better there hmm.gif
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QUOTE(barstad @ Dec 15 2012, 09:30 AM)
1U IMAX is smaller.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 16 2012, 02:46 AM)
Yeah, come to think of it, it is really not worth it. The one at 1U was really... fail. Pixelation and bluriness aplenty.
Oh... I thought they cut her part out or something. I think I did see a Peter Jackson-looking character but wasn't too sure.

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the hobbit is going to split into 3 parts, right?

so if this is in the 2nd part, what they gonna do for the 3rd part?
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the hobbit is going to split into 3 parts, right?

so if this is in the 2nd part, what they gonna do for the 3rd part?
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Third part will be The Hobbit There & Back Again~ But no idea what they gonna do in the final installment. However, we don't have to wait till one year after the 2nd one coz the final one will be released on 18 July 2014, not end of 2014.

They released a photo from There & Back again. Looks familiar? tongue.gif

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Third part will be The Hobbit There & Back Again~ But no idea what they gonna do in the final installment. However, we don't have to wait till one year after the 2nd one coz the final one will be released on 18 July 2014, not end of 2014.

They released a photo from There & Back again. Looks familiar? tongue.gif

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when I posted the question, I haven't finished reading book yet until now.

now that I finished it, I kinda have a glimpse of what will happened in the third movie. and kinda sad sad.gif
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Dec 16 2012, 03:10 PM)
when I posted the question, I haven't finished reading book yet until now.

now that I finished it, I kinda have a glimpse of what will happened in the third movie. and kinda sad sad.gif
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Yeah, sad indeed~ But I can't wait to watch 'Battle of Five Armies'. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, sad indeed~ But I can't wait to watch 'Battle of Five Armies'. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, he's got to top Battle of Helm's Deep and Battle of the Pelennor Fields~ biggrin.gif
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Yeah, he's got to top Battle of Helm's Deep and Battle of the Pelennor Fields~ biggrin.gif
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I hope they'll show the encounter between Gandalf and Thorin in Bree...."a chance encounter" indeed. Wished there was more of the Dwarven history, especially on the impact of the War between the Dwarfs and Orcs. Overall, quite a number of details included but will mostly be known to fans of the books....
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Just back from cinema....love it! still captured the essense of LOTR!

And didnt felt it was 2hr40mins long...begging for more! laugh.gif

Oh no, cant wait for part two wub.gif
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Just back from cinema....love it! still captured the essense of LOTR!

And didnt felt it was 2hr40mins long...begging for more!  laugh.gif

Oh no, cant wait for part two  wub.gif
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So i was made to understand that Azgog is made just for the movie right?
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Azog was mentioned in Lord of The Rings Appendix but not in The Hobbit.
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 15 2012, 06:30 PM)
Yeah...same thing. To put it on screen is another thing.

Of course it started of with he Hobbits....the movie title is that!  laugh.gif
Which is the draggy part? i think PJ chosen the scenes pretty well and everything is essential to the understanding of the plot
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Really enjoyed it. Can't imagine not watching it on IMAX.

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Really enjoyed it. Can't imagine not watching it on IMAX.

Still can't get over the fact bout Star Trek censorship =/
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is it good? feel like wanna watch it again this weekend XD

last time watched at GSC 3D MAX, the quality not very good, got blur at some scene.
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How do I buy the tickets for HFR 48FPS online for TGV? Nothing is mentioned at all! And what is [cool.gif?

http://awesomescreenshot.com/058pzcdf3
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watched yesterday.

Great Movie, can't wait for part 2.
Not read the book thou

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How do I buy the tickets for HFR 48FPS online for TGV? Nothing is mentioned at all! And what is [cool.gif?

http://awesomescreenshot.com/058pzcdf3
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Is The Hobbit 3D. Only 3D hav HFR, IMAX is 24fps.
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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Dec 17 2012, 09:28 AM)
watched yesterday.

Great Movie, can't wait for part 2.
Not read the book thou

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of coz.. until the start of the fellowship... i think his character personality will slowly change and remember gandalf said " you will never be the same when you return"
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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Dec 17 2012, 09:28 AM)
watched yesterday.

Great Movie, can't wait for part 2.
Not read the book thou

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is it good? feel like wanna watch it again this weekend XD

last time watched at GSC 3D MAX, the quality not very good, got blur at some scene.
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I enjoyed it, but I think there are still jitters around.

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 17 2012, 01:56 AM)
The fact that it's gonna be a trilogy is draggy enough hahaha
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 17 2012, 09:09 AM)
How do I buy the tickets for HFR 48FPS online for TGV? Nothing is mentioned at all! And what is [cool.gif?

http://awesomescreenshot.com/058pzcdf3
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That you'll have to refer to TGV's facebook post on which theaters have them in 48fps. Limited though sadly.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 17 2012, 09:09 AM)
How do I buy the tickets for HFR 48FPS online for TGV? Nothing is mentioned at all! And what is [cool.gif?

http://awesomescreenshot.com/058pzcdf3
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To watch HFR 48fps, just select normal 3D (not IMAX 3D) screening at these cinemas:

TGV KLCC
TGV Sunway
TGV Bukit Tinggi
TGV Tebrau City
TGV 1Utama
TGV SetiaWalk
TGV Wangsa Walk
TGV Bukit Indah
TGV Rawang

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Alamak, went and watched the 2D version which is superb as well at TGV Bukit Tinggi. Didn't know the 3D is the new 48fps version, should have went and try it
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Ah much thanks for the help guys. Fail on TGV's part for not mentioning the slightest bit.
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The movie is too long. What else do you call a movie that does not even start to tell the tale of The Hobbit even after 30 minutes into the opening. I'm talking about the part in which the old Bilbo and Frodo appears. Does absolutely nothing to advance the story.
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The movie is too long. What else do you call a movie that does not even start to tell the tale of The Hobbit even after 30 minutes into the opening. I'm talking about the part in which the old Bilbo and Frodo appears. Does absolutely nothing to advance the story.
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For me the length of the movie is alright, after all, I am enjoying Middle-Earth instead happy.gif
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For me the length of the movie is alright, after all, I am enjoying Middle-Earth instead happy.gif
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It feels to me like Peter Jackson is mercilessly trying to milk his LOTR franchise for all that it's worth. Much of what's in this movie alone actually comes from the appendixes in the LOTR books. The Hobbit was a very straightforward children's tale. Yes. The Hobbit was a children's book and was planned as a one-off to boot. It does not and will not have an epic scale like LOTR did. Peter Jackson seems to be trying to make it epic but he only made it overly long.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 17 2012, 11:29 AM)
It feels to me like Peter Jackson is mercilessly trying to milk his LOTR franchise for all that it's worth. Much of what's in this movie alone actually comes from the appendixes in the LOTR books. The Hobbit was a very straightforward children's tale. Yes. The Hobbit was a children's book and was planned as a one-off to boot. It does not and will not have an epic scale like LOTR did. Peter Jackson seems to be trying to make it epic but he only made it overly long.
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Overly long = unnecessary scenes? I found the length only a minor issue, and I barely felt the 170 minutes runtime. The fact that I did genuinely care for some of the characters is already an achievement. I was really afraid if the 'adventure feel' would be lost. Peter Jackson had always wanted to 'complete' the LOTR Trilogy with The Hobbit, back then he was not well known at all and it was a big risk to have green-lit three films.

After the LOTR Trilogy, there was a lot of talk about doing The Hobbit but PJ distanced himself, making "King Kong" and "The Lovely Bones" instead, heck he wasn't even going to direct it but everything fell into place.

In the end, I am really pleased with how the film turned out to be. You can really tell PJ tried his best to bring back memories from the LOTR Trilogy and a number of instances in the film made me feel like I stepped into a time machine.

Why would anyone want to compare "The Hobbit" to the LOTR Trilogy, I have no idea. These are two separate stories in the same world. There is no way it is going to have the epic scale of those films, but we did see glimpses of war and (again) LOTR fans would rejoice.






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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 17 2012, 11:29 AM)
It feels to me like Peter Jackson is mercilessly trying to milk his LOTR franchise for all that it's worth. Much of what's in this movie alone actually comes from the appendixes in the LOTR books. The Hobbit was a very straightforward children's tale. Yes. The Hobbit was a children's book and was planned as a one-off to boot. It does not and will not have an epic scale like LOTR did. Peter Jackson seems to be trying to make it epic but he only made it overly long.
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That’s the feeling I have few weeks before the movie hit the local cinemas and that’s also the reason why I have my reservation on this movie. I have yet to watch it and honestly, I’m not excited about it.

With all the video logs and production videos being released, I felt like PJ is trying really hard to recapture and reproduce that same essence emitted from LOTR trilogy.

That’s me.

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That’s the feeling I have few weeks before the movie hit the local cinemas and that’s also the reason why I have my reservation on this movie. I have yet to watch it and honestly, I’m not excited about it.

With all the video logs and production videos being released, I felt like PJ is trying really hard to recapture and reproduce that same essence emitted from LOTR trilogy.

That’s me.
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Eh? Pete loves to share his production details as always. He is always keen on talking about film-making process. I have the "King Kong Production Diaries" - 2 DVDs dedicated entirely for day-to-day production videos.

For the LOTR Trilogy, three Extended Edition DVD box set - you'd be surprised by the number of production videos (making of...), the details are astounding (favorite is when they showed exactly what happens from start to finish for a single scene - life of a raw film reel).

So it could just be you feeling that way... tongue.gif

Planning on watching it again on HFR3D this weekend.


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Watched it yesterday. Nice music, nice tone to it. Some needed violence (very minor- beheading goblins). That epic dwarf song is still automatically repeating in my head till now.

I didn't once feel the long runtime. I wished it was longer, tbh.

Last but not least, Gandalf is casting more spells that he did in LOTR. And the same plot hole as many claimed..

"Why not just use the eagles through out the journey?"

For non readers, it's normal to have this thought. I'm not a reader myself but I did myself some researches.

"The lord of the eagles saves Bilbo and the dwarves because Gandalf had saved his life when he had been injured by an arrow. It was just a favor to return the debt, they're not servants, they're not horses or carriers."
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Eh? Pete loves to share his production details as always. He is always keen on talking about film-making process. I have the "King Kong Production Diaries" - 2 DVDs dedicated entirely for day-to-day production videos.

For the LOTR Trilogy, three Extended Edition DVD box set - you'd be surprised by the number of production videos (making of...), the details are astounding (favorite is when they showed exactly what happens from start to finish for a single scene - life of a raw film reel).

So it could just be you feeling that way...  tongue.gif

Planning on watching it again on HFR3D this weekend.
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Gonna watch again soon, this time in 48fps. (previously in 3D 24fps)

Anyone watched both and compared? 24fps/48fps...which one u prefer? smile.gif

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I think it's not me that's comparing The Hobbit with LOTR. I think it's Peter Jackson himself that's making the comparison. I would have been perfectly happy if the tale was told in just one movie.

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Love watching all those LOTR production videos, especially the part taht shows the bonding and friendship of the actors~ Really heartwarming~ biggrin.gif
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I think it's not me that's comparing The Hobbit with LOTR. I think it's Peter Jackson himself that's making the comparison. I would have been perfectly happy if the tale was told in just one movie.

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I don't quite know the length of which the film has based its content on the books because I have never read the books. Indeed I've heard about "The Hobbit" being a children's tale... but if that's how it is then so be it. At the end of the day it is still a fantasy film, and a really good one too.

It is never LOTR epicness in terms of scale or story, because it NEVER was in the first place. Did I feel like the film was trying to be epic? No.. To me I see it as how PJ has interpreted the story and made decisions that would please any LOTR fan. If one has never seen the LOTR films, they are still in for a wonderful time but are missing on so many references of what is to transpire on an epic scale.

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I think it's not me that's comparing The Hobbit with LOTR. I think it's Peter Jackson himself that's making the comparison. I would have been perfectly happy if the tale was told in just one movie.

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Yeah that too... especially the last day of filming on "Return of the King" where everyone was really emotional.
I don't quite know the length of which the film has based its content on the books because I have never read the books. Indeed I've heard about "The Hobbit" being a children's tale... but if that's how it is then so be it. At the end of the day it is still a fantasy film, and a really good one too.

It is never LOTR epicness in terms of scale or story, because it NEVER was in the first place. Did I feel like the film was trying to be epic? No.. To me I see it as how PJ has interpreted the story and made decisions that would please any LOTR fan. If one has never seen the LOTR films, they are still in for a wonderful time but are missing on so many references of what is to transpire on an epic scale.

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I remember from FOTR, when Frodo mentioned that:

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Not necessarily... on film, there can always be changes.

On a different note, I think the third film will bridge the gap between "The Hobbit" and "Fellowship of the Ring" ; could possibly be a film based on references/hints of what could have transpired between that time. The image of Legolas says it all.

Benedict Cumberbatch plays the The Necromancer... hmm, interesting. Storyline for "There and Back Again"

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Are you sure Cumberbatch is The Necromancer? Because he is casted as Smaug.
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I'm aware of the LOTR production videos e.g. actors and actresses fooling around (Viggo and Bernand's NG was the best i.e. “They’ll take you into a dark room, my lord. They’ll scan your very skull, so that they can make toys for children to play stupid games!”), cuts and screen shots, NGs, make-up process, and etc but if I recall it right, those videos were released after the movie was released and not before or perhaps I was not crazy enough to hunt down these videos if it was released before movie did; thus, rendering it enjoyable.

Like I said, that’s me.

However, I'm interested in the new 48fps 3D format though. Perhaps those who have watched it in this format could relay your experience, in comparison with the iMAX 3D format as well as the differences between the iMAX in One Utama and that of Sunway Pyramid.

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Ok. I'm going to do a little analysis here with regards to the movie and Tolkien's book.

Don't get me wrong. The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey is not a bad movie by far. Great production values and special effects. I'm just a little bummed out that they dragged it out like they did but that's just me.

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It's based on the books. A film should never punish it's viewers for not knowing the source material. Oddly, it seems now that knowing the source material is what the problem is right now. I didn't even know "The Hobbit" was more of a children's story until recently.

The tie-in factor with LOTR was present because the film is an adaptation of the book and I'm confident it was seen an opportunity to have the references in it. Had the film been done just like books, the question would then be on why make the less menacing and the lack of coherence with the LOTR plot would come into questioning. Perhaps if I did read the book, I would have a different opinion altogether but I didn't.

I didn't find much issues with the film at all except for the darn IMAX. I think my viewing experience would be even better in 48fps.

On another note, the film has grossed over $220 million.




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Overly long = unnecessary scenes? I found the length only a minor issue, and I barely felt the 170 minutes runtime. The fact that I did genuinely care for some of the characters is already an achievement. I was really afraid if the 'adventure feel' would be lost. Peter Jackson had always wanted to 'complete' the LOTR Trilogy with The Hobbit, back then he was not well known at all and it was a big risk to have green-lit three films.

After the LOTR Trilogy, there was a lot of talk about doing The Hobbit but PJ distanced himself, making "King Kong" and "The Lovely Bones" instead, heck he wasn't even going to direct it but everything fell into place.

In the end, I am really pleased with how the film turned out to be. You can really tell PJ tried his best to bring back memories from the LOTR Trilogy and a number of instances in the film made me feel like I stepped into a time machine.

Why would anyone want to compare "The Hobbit" to the LOTR Trilogy, I have no idea. These are two separate stories in the same world. There is no way it is going to have the epic scale of those films, but we did see glimpses of war and (again) LOTR fans would rejoice.
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Agree on the bold part.

So i already watched 2d version. Just wanna ask u guys here is it worth it (in terms of the watching experience not the film itself) in IMAX 3d?

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 17 2012, 04:32 PM)
It's based on the books. A film should never punish it's viewers for not knowing the source material. Oddly, it seems now that knowing the source material is what the problem is right now. I didn't even know "The Hobbit" was more of a children's story until recently.

The tie-in factor with LOTR was present because the film is an adaptation of the book and I'm confident it was seen an opportunity to have the references in it. Had the film been done just like books, the question would then be on why make the less menacing and the lack of coherence with the LOTR plot would come into questioning. Perhaps if I did read the book, I would have a different opinion altogether but I didn't.

I didn't find much issues with the film at all except for the darn IMAX. I think my viewing experience would be even better in 48fps.

On another note, the film has grossed over $220 million.
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I agree. Here in this instance, not knowing the source material made the movie all the more unbelievable. I don't know. Perhaps a couple of viewers that were seated in front of me in the cinema when I was watching the movie said it best.

When the credits rolled, one viewer uttered one word which I think described the whole thing : "Huh?"

Now, here's a viewer that truly did not know the source material.
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Agree on the bold part.

So i already watched 2d version. Just wanna ask u guys here is it worth it (in terms of the watching experience not the film itself) in IMAX 3d?
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For me, no. Not really worth it. The one at 1U was blurry and noticeably pixelated, felt like they failed to properly configure the display or something. 2D version is in 24fps, so if planning on seeing it again why not go 48fps instead... the 'rarest' of all at this point.


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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 17 2012, 05:08 PM)
For me, no. Not really worth it. The one at 1U was blurry and noticeably pixelated, felt like they failed to properly configure the display or something. 2D version is in 24fps, so if planning on seeing it again why not go 48fps instead... the 'rarest' of all at this point.
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so where available this 48fps?
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so where available this 48fps?
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Thanks though! I thought imax 3d would be better so i guess it not then.
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so where available this 48fps?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/624050/+240#

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TGV markets HFR 3D as 'normal' 3D at selected cinemas while GSC actually labels them 'hfr 3D' at Pavilion and Gardens...for those who found the motion-blurring just too much, you will definitely love the extra details found on 48fps.

Simply put, I strongly believe the movie is meant to be watched in its native format. Yes, it will take 30-60min for your eyes to adjust to the faster frame rates but it is very well worth it for the action scenes alone. Also, unlike previous 3D showing, the HFR 3D that I watched at 1U TGV was bright and clear (the horrible 2D at neighbouring GSC just could not compete at all when I watched it on Thursday).

And ironically, the afternoon cinema hall on Saturday where I watched the 'normal' 3D was completely empty (only 7 of us were in there) while the nearby IMAX hall was quite packed...this in 1U during a premiering weekend is almost unheard of. While understanding the commercial aspect of ticket sales (RM32 for IMAX 3D vs RM22 for 'normal' 3D), TGV doesn't do justice in its marketing of the Hobbit HFR 3D as they should have considering more of their venues actually supporting it...
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For me, the 48p in Gardens was worth it. For RM32, you get physically excellent seats, no queue, 48p and the best of all, THX. But I do admit the hot dog was abit expensive. RM7 is like a KFC meal.

48p works fantastic during the action sequence. But it kind of dulls down during dialogue session. Maybe it was the camera angle, maybe it was the characters. Not as 'memorable' as the Fellowship. Heck, I can't even name a single dwarf. Ok, ok, The Hobbit was originally meant as a children's book.
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Just got back from HFR The Hobbit at TGV.
HFR is freaking awesome drool.gif

Was a bit skeptical at first because people been saying it's like watching those soap operas on TV or behind the scene footage, but it's NOT. It's totally different.
Looking forward to watch more movies in this format.

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I think PJ will put them both together (tag team?) as the Dwarven/Goblin wars was fought earlier and as you just stated,

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 17 2012, 04:06 PM)
Ok. I'm going to do a little analysis here with regards to the movie and Tolkien's book.

Don't get me wrong. The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey is not a bad movie by far. Great production values and special effects. I'm just a little bummed out that they dragged it out like they did but that's just me.

As always, analysis cannot be made without revealing details of the movie so spoilers are ahead.

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Actually, to be fair, The Fellowship does start off light as well, with the long expected party and it's related events...and only become progressively darker as the books move along.

I do agree on some of your points though...some parts were certainly unnecessary. Example, I thought the stone giants, while being well done, was really just for eye candy's sake.


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It's based on the books. A film should never punish it's viewers for not knowing the source material. Oddly, it seems now that knowing the source material is what the problem is right now. I didn't even know "The Hobbit" was more of a children's story until recently.

The tie-in factor with LOTR was present because the film is an adaptation of the book and I'm confident it was seen an opportunity to have the references in it. Had the film been done just like books, the question would then be on why make the less menacing and the lack of coherence with the LOTR plot would come into questioning. Perhaps if I did read the book, I would have a different opinion altogether but I didn't.

I didn't find much issues with the film at all except for the darn IMAX. I think my viewing experience would be even better in 48fps.

On another note, the film has grossed over $220 million.
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Hmm, however from my view, there were many references that people NOT knowing the source material would simply get overwhelmed with too. I appreciated it since I read all the books, but most non-readers would simply be wondering what that was all about perhaps? And some of those are incidental stuff that relates to LOTR but doesn't directly impact on it.

I'm more worried about the tone of the movies...overall, The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey is pretty respectful of the books. I hope PJ doesn't screw around much like he did for Two Towers and Return of the King.

Thranduil, abandoning the Dwarves? I haven't read the Hobbit for a couple of years, but I certainly don't remember this issue. Thorin's father getting killed in battle? I seem to remember he was captured and tortured rather than falling in battle.

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 17 2012, 04:06 PM)
Ok. I'm going to do a little analysis here with regards to the movie and Tolkien's book.

Don't get me wrong. The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey is not a bad movie by far. Great production values and special effects. I'm just a little bummed out that they dragged it out like they did but that's just me.

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Enjoyed reading your opinion, bro.
I think you would've love Del Torro's The Hobbit better.

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Nope...dont think so. If u read the book theres alot of things still gonna happen. Plus the relation to LOTR.
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I heard the book's actually quite short? And it's only ONE book. Why didn't they make LOTR 9 movies then?
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 17 2012, 11:29 AM)
It feels to me like Peter Jackson is mercilessly trying to milk his LOTR franchise for all that it's worth. Much of what's in this movie alone actually comes from the appendixes in the LOTR books. The Hobbit was a very straightforward children's tale. Yes. The Hobbit was a children's book and was planned as a one-off to boot. It does not and will not have an epic scale like LOTR did. Peter Jackson seems to be trying to make it epic but he only made it overly long.
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It's long? I almost felt sad when they showed the eye but still a great closure for part 1.
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It's long? I almost felt sad when they showed the eye but still a great closure for part 1.
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Yes. It's long. Too long for my taste. Much of the scenes have little or no relevance to the story. I shall re-count what I deem to be unnecessary in the movie:

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Don't select IMAX 3D, select normal 3D.
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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

Wow... how to review this.

Watched this on Sunday, in 3D...

After watching Lord Of The Ring, Return of the King, I really REALLY wanted to see The Hobbit, just to be complete.

After hearing all the drama, related to the copyright, the changes in director, and now have watched the first of the three movie, I am... underwhelm....

Don't get me wrong, it is beautifully shot! Nostalgia galore, and hence there lays the problem, there really isn't enough story to justify 3 MOVIES!!!!

He spread thing out, to the point of stupor...

Alright, he extracted information from the compendium, and also, that is the problem. It is compendium, which means additional information, NOT story....

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Pacing is an issue. When action happens, it is NOTHING but, and when things slow down, they slow down to a stupor...

One thing I would like to add though, the "music" in this movie, is actually an improvement over The Lord of the Ring trilogy, which is a good thing!!

I'm a little concern for part 2 and 3...

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Dec 18 2012, 04:27 PM)
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

Wow... how to review this.

Watched this on Sunday, in 3D...

After watching Lord Of The Ring, Return of the King, I really REALLY wanted to see The Hobbit, just to be complete.

After hearing all the drama, related to the copyright, the changes in director, and now have watched the first of the three movie, I am... underwhelm....

Don't get me wrong, it is beautifully shot! Nostalgia galore, and hence there lays the problem, there really isn't enough story to justify 3 MOVIES!!!!

He spread thing out, to the point of stupor...

Alright, he extracted information from the compendium, and also, that is the problem. It is compendium, which means additional information, NOT story....

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Pacing is an issue. When action happens, it is NOTHING but, and when things slow down, they slow down to a stupor...

One thing I would like to add though, the "music" in this movie, is actually an improvement over The Lord of the Ring trilogy, which is a good thing!!

I'm a little concern for part 2 and 3...

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Thank you! Finally! Someone who feels the same as I did. It's too long!

I think the scene with Galadriel, Saruman, Elrond & Gandalf is all Peter Jackson and not Tolkien.

As with the meme:

Padding! Padding everywhere!

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Dec 18 2012, 04:27 PM)
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012)

Wow... how to review this.

Watched this on Sunday, in 3D...

After watching Lord Of The Ring, Return of the King, I really REALLY wanted to see The Hobbit, just to be complete.

After hearing all the drama, related to the copyright, the changes in director, and now have watched the first of the three movie, I am... underwhelm....

Don't get me wrong, it is beautifully shot! Nostalgia galore, and hence there lays the problem, there really isn't enough story to justify 3 MOVIES!!!!

He spread thing out, to the point of stupor...

Alright, he extracted information from the compendium, and also, that is the problem. It is compendium, which means additional information, NOT story....

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Pacing is an issue. When action happens, it is NOTHING but, and when things slow down, they slow down to a stupor...

One thing I would like to add though, the "music" in this movie, is actually an improvement over The Lord of the Ring trilogy, which is a good thing!!

I'm a little concern for part 2 and 3...

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It was a little bored before they left the shire but I have no problems with pacing after that. It feels slow because we all know they won't reached the dragon hahaha but it isn't boring. This is even slower than Fellowship imo and there is simply no sense of urgency

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I doubt part 2 and part 3 will be slow...cause either one part will kill the dragon and the other part is the battle of five armies.


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Hi shootkk/soitsuagain

Nice to know there are people out there that kinda/sorta feel the same way about the movie.

Thanks you soitsuagain for bringing up Randergast, the brown wizard.

Would be interesting if the two blues make an appearance in the 2nd and 3rd (ala Peter Jackson, tempering)

Would be nice if things pick up a bit in the 2nd and 3rd...

I think I had expressed myself poorly in my review in a sense that when I was watching LOTR, 1, 2 and 3, there were alot of thing I haven't seen in movies before, and it was like, one wow after the next.

While watching The Hobbit, I keep getting the "been there" and "done that" feeling!!

The sense of "wonderment" in a sense was gone...

That, in essence was what I miss, in The Hobbit...

My Addendum...

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Pretty fun times at the theater. About a much fun as The Avengers, I'd say, maybe even slightly more so. I find it hard to believe people go gaga over that but not this. To me they are cut from the same cloth- same awe, similar problems.

Really liked the 48fps, made the 3D a lot better, though I do think it makes your eyes strain more, having to process fake 3D at twice the frequency.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 18 2012, 05:02 PM)
Thank you! Finally! Someone who feels the same as I did. It's too long!

I think the scene with Galadriel, Saruman, Elrond & Gandalf is all Peter Jackson and not Tolkien.

As with the meme:

Padding! Padding everywhere!
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Dec 18 2012, 07:12 PM)
Hi shootkk/soitsuagain

Nice to know there are people out there that kinda/sorta feel the same way about the movie.

Thanks you soitsuagain for bringing up Randergast, the brown wizard.

Would be interesting if the two blues make an appearance in the 2nd and 3rd (ala Peter Jackson, tempering)

Would be nice if things pick up a bit in the 2nd and 3rd...

I think I had expressed myself poorly in my review in a sense that when I was watching LOTR, 1, 2 and 3, there were alot of thing I haven't seen in movies before, and it was like, one wow after the next.

While watching The Hobbit, I keep getting the "been there" and "done that" feeling!!

The sense of "wonderment" in a sense was gone...

That, in essence was what I miss, in The Hobbit...

My Addendum...
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If the 2 blue wizards appear besides just Radagast, then it'll totally be a new characterisation, as PJ will have to create them from scratch. Tolkien did not elaborate much on their fates, just a small throwaway line.

Maybe for you, some parts are familiar because they pass through the same locales? smile.gif The Shire, Rivendell.....don't forget, it was all brand new when the LOTR movies were new! For me, it's like revisiting Middle-earth so no issues with it smile.gif


Added on December 18, 2012, 9:52 pmRandom likes, dislikes and thoughts :

Likes :
Christopher Lee and Sir Ian back as Saruman and Gandalf!
Scenes of how Thorin's Oakenshield nickname came about, and the Dwarven/Goblin war.
Glamdring/Orcrist! Sting!
Riddles in the Dark! Great scene between Bilbo and Gollum.
Seeing The Shire and Rivendell again.
Elrond being jolly! LOL, I didn't really like Hugo Weaving in LOTR, too much like Agent Smith.
The Dwarven Company, nice camaderie there.
Small references that reinforce the feel of the movie/world; the Witch-King of Angmar, Swords from Gondolin, the Istari.

Dislikes :
Stone giants...what was the point?
Radagast going round and round with the Wargs...the scene felt draggy.
Azog popping up and yelling....Chase Chase them! After a while, it felt like the Coyote and Road Runner.


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I did not expect to be wowed again by the sweeping scenery shots. We've already seen that. They were beautifully shot and is appreciated but they have lost their novelty and I'm ok with that.

What I am not ok with is how PJ thought he could get away with making 3 movies with such lean materials. Draggy dialogue scenes and action scenes that are not plot relevant does not make a movie great.

I am appalled when after 30 minutes of the movie opening the story had not even started proper. We are still seeing the old Bilbo. That's time wasted. Then when we see the dwarves, we are treated to a long, messy dinner and a silly dish tossing stunt. More time wasted. I think it was around the 1 hour mark before the young Bilbo even got out his front door!

Then there was Radagast the brown time waster and the stone giants rock 'em, sock 'em match interlude.

PJ could picked up the pace and brought us right to base of the Lonely Mountain before he ended the first movie and then wrapped it all up in the next movie. 6 hours. That would have been miles better.

He could have done away with all the doom and gloom foreshadowing about Sauron coming back with draggy council scenes. Just a little mention of it would have sufficed. This is The Hobbit anyway. Not the LOTR. Should have been much lighter in mood. PJ should not have resurrected Azog but because he wanted the movie to be 3 hours long and only tell half the tale, he needed a villain to up the tension or the viewers would have been bored stiff!

That's is what PJ did wrong. He thought he could pull a fast one on his viewers. He thought wrong.

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...when the choir kicks in, 1:44, goosebumps! biggrin.gif

And... *drum rolls*, my absolute favorite that glued me to my seat after RotK was over:



The credits had the characters in sketch form. Such a beautiful ending. The end credits itself deserved an award! biggrin.gif Incredible lyrics, "And all will turn, to silver glass..." (as uttered in the film).

I wasn't here in the forums back in 2003. If I was, I would be gushing about RotK for pages on end. smile.gif Back in the days, I only saw one or two films a year.
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Then why isn't one movie enough for this one? Because LOTR is not as epic?
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In my opinion one movie should be enough for The Hobbit.
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hi, i see u guys talking about the awesomeness of HFR 48fps the hobbit, but how about the sound?

i'm not sure which one to go, HFR 48fps, imax 3d or thx summit usj,

of coz i prefer superb sound quality with good viewing.

plz help me guys


Added on December 19, 2012, 9:53 amby the way, what is HFR mean? sorry noob

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 02:27 AM)
Then why isn't one movie enough for this one? Because LOTR is not as epic?
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Like ive said before....coz theres so much story to tell.
Tell me a part that can be left out in the movie


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hi, i see u guys talking about the awesomeness of HFR 48fps the hobbit, but how about the sound?

i'm not sure which one to go, HFR 48fps, imax 3d or thx summit usj,

of coz i prefer superb sound quality with good viewing.

plz help me guys


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HFR is High Frame Rate. 48fps (frames per second) is double the movie standard.

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For me, the 48p in Gardens was worth it. For RM32, you get physically excellent seats, no queue, 48p and the best of all, THX. But I do admit the hot dog was abit expensive. RM7 is like a KFC meal.

48p works fantastic during the action sequence. But it kind of dulls down during dialogue session. Maybe it was the camera angle, maybe it was the characters. Not as 'memorable' as the Fellowship. Heck, I can't even name a single dwarf. Ok, ok, The Hobbit was originally meant as a children's book.
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u serious?

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Actually the stone giants match is an integral part of the plot just not the way it was done in the movie. Nevertheless I love that part. But seriously, Hobbits can't be make into one movie. It will need at least 2. Why not make full use of the appendices to tie the story in better to the Lord of The Rings considering that his next book was 17 years in the making.

I heard there will be 25mins extended version coming in later for home videos. I can't wait to watch that too.
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Apart from the rock giant fighting, this movie is great to watch....

Luv the part when thorin come down from the tree to take Azog 1 on 1.....He did have the aura of a king to me......but too bad he was owned so fast by Azog.....LOL....I thought at least he will take down the beast 1st before getting owned by Azog.....
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E-3DXM Kids Incl Glass16

E-3DXM Prem Incl Glass23

E-3DXM Nrm Incl Glass21

E-3DXM Twn Incl Glass48

48fps must buy twin seat? trying to book from Sunway
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E-3DXM Kids Incl Glass16

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E-3DXM Nrm Incl Glass21

E-3DXM Twn Incl Glass48

48fps must buy twin seat? trying to book from Sunway
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The Hobbit as one and only one movie?
it'll be too rush and too compact, with no time for character development & such

imagine you'll see the goblins kingdom & gollum/smeagol very early on, then smaug in the mid movie, then the war of 5 army at the end, too many things happening, too fast, you'll be hardly got time to digest the story, to know who's this & that, and admire the scenery tongue.gif


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Yea, there will be an Extended edition for this, cant wait for the 3D BD...now the question, 24 or 48fps on BD?
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 19 2012, 08:59 AM)
No. LOTR is epic and it deserved 3 movies. The Hobbit on the other hand is hardly as epic and the only reason it was stretched to 3 movies is because of Peter Jackson's greed and indulgence.

In my opinion one movie should be enough for The Hobbit.
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not really .. i guess it should be at least 2 movies.. 1 movies would be too rush and less content to be inside.. its made for the fans though..
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'48' suffix is not referring to 48fps. It's the price for twin seats - RM48.

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not really .. i guess it should be at least 2 movies.. 1 movies would be too rush and less content to be inside.. its made for the fans though..
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Yes. This movie is made for the fans. Peter Jackson's fans to be precise. Tolkien fans? Not so much.
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Yes. This movie is made for the fans. Peter Jackson's fans to be precise. Tolkien fans? Not so much.
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Hmm.... never thought about it this way. I wouldn't consider myself a Tolkien fan, but if you'd ask me if I was a fan of Peter Jackson's work, then yeah.

I think I will enjoy the movie a lot more in 48fps, given how much of an issue I had with IMAX 3D.
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 19 2012, 10:05 AM)
Like ive said before....coz theres so much story to tell.
Tell me a part that can be left out in the movie
how would i know? you're the one who read the book LOL

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yes, THX + 48fps,

sound quality is superb, can hear everything with good clarity and punchy bass

but the fluidity 48fps made the movie less enjoyment, like watching cartoon, and it made the movie not as serious as the scene should be.

and the storyline maybe is not my type, didnt like it, fall asleep few times.

great movie, but feeling i waste my money for this

no more 48fps for me

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 06:07 PM)
how would i know? you're the one who read the book LOL
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just got back from gsc garden

yes, THX + 48fps,

sound quality is superb, can hear everything with good clarity and punchy bass

but the fluidity 48fps made the movie less enjoyment, like watching cartoon, and it made the movie not as serious as the scene should be.

and the storyline maybe is not my type, didnt like it, fall asleep few times.

great movie, but feeling i waste my money for this

no more 48fps for me
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u d one said its draggy....and tell one part too long....which one?
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The first half. All that talking without thorough explanation. Two of the biggest questions I have is... why can't Gandalf get the birds to fetch them all the way to the destination from the beginning? Why does he use Bilbo's house as meeting point without his consent? He also disappears for no reason and predictably appears at the right time. Why doesn't he use his magic as much as he obviously needed to anyway? Also, what is with the rocks that started fighting each other? Seems like this movie is made purely for the fans of the book. Still good to watch, given that I was ignoring these gaps.
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why can't Gandalf get the birds to fetch them all the way to the destination from the beginning?
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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 10:54 PM)
The first half. All that talking without thorough explanation. Two of the biggest questions I have is... why can't Gandalf get the birds to fetch them all the way to the destination from the beginning? Why does he use Bilbo's house as meeting point without his consent? He also disappears for no reason and predictably appears at the right time. Why doesn't he use his magic as much as he obviously needed to anyway? Also, what is with the rocks that started fighting each other? Seems like this movie is made purely for the fans of the book. Still good to watch, given that I was ignoring these gaps.
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The Eagles are not "taxis"...this is one part I wish PJ had elaborated on in LOTR and now in the Hobbit. They are intelligent and even have a king of their own. But they also don't interfere if possible with the goings of the world. I agree that PJ didn't flesh out this aspect properly.

As for the other questions, CNN covers some of it smile.gif

http://us.cnn.com/2012/12/18/showbiz/movie...html?hpt=hp_bn9


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Yes. This movie is made for the fans. Peter Jackson's fans to be precise. Tolkien fans? Not so much.
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QUOTE(axoloke @ Dec 19 2012, 11:14 PM)
The Eagles are not "taxis"...this is one part I wish PJ had elaborated on in LOTR and now in the Hobbit. They are intelligent and even have a king of their own. But they also don't interfere if possible with the goings of the world. I agree that PJ didn't flesh out this aspect properly.

As for the other questions, CNN covers some of it smile.gif

http://us.cnn.com/2012/12/18/showbiz/movie...html?hpt=hp_bn9


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Well...a bit of both I would say  tongue.gif
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They don't interfere until Gandalf asks them to? Then still, why not send them closer to the destination? They did, after all, interfered and save their useless arses from danger. Thanks for clarifying a bit anyway. The non-fan viewers shouldn't have to go looking for answers. A 164-minute film really should explain it all, not to mention making a trilogy out of a single book (which I heard is like less than a hundred pages?).
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sorry for the spoiler.
They don't interfere until Gandalf asks them to? Then still, why not send them closer to the destination? They did, after all, interfered and save their useless arses from danger. Thanks for clarifying a bit anyway. The non-fan viewers shouldn't have to go looking for answers. A 164-minute film really should explain it all, not to mention making a trilogy out of a single book (which I heard is like less than a hundred pages?).
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not the spoiler.

like axoloke said, the eagles are not "taxis". i dunno how to explain, but the king of eagles owe gandalf about something. in exchange, gandalf can call them for help when needed. need someone to fix this for me sweat.gif

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 10:54 PM)
The first half. All that talking without thorough explanation. Two of the biggest questions I have is... why can't Gandalf get the birds to fetch them all the way to the destination from the beginning? Why does he use Bilbo's house as meeting point without his consent? He also disappears for no reason and predictably appears at the right time. Why doesn't he use his magic as much as he obviously needed to anyway? Also, what is with the rocks that started fighting each other? Seems like this movie is made purely for the fans of the book. Still good to watch, given that I was ignoring these gaps.
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obviously ure not a fan laugh.gif

u want thorough explaination yet u complain abt drag? laugh.gif doh.gif

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obviously ure not a fan  laugh.gif

u want thorough explaination yet u complain abt drag?  laugh.gif  doh.gif
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It's draggy even without thorough explanation, that's what I'm complaining. If this movie was made for fans like you only, then they should've said so on their poster and trailers so that people like me would understand and try to enjoy the film without knowing the heck is going on. But no, so I'll just take it as it's not done well enough.
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it is not a normal 1080p, i already suit with 1080p hd, but 48fps is similar to 1080p + 200hz LED tv, too fluid and look cartoonish...

well..it is a good technology, but not for me at least for this time around, not yet... just my humble point of view smile.gif

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 11:52 PM)
sorry for the spoiler.
They don't interfere until Gandalf asks them to? Then still, why not send them closer to the destination? They did, after all, interfered and save their useless arses from danger. Thanks for clarifying a bit anyway. The non-fan viewers shouldn't have to go looking for answers. A 164-minute film really should explain it all, not to mention making a trilogy out of a single book (which I heard is like less than a hundred pages?).
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The real reason for the apparently stupid move done by the giant eagles is because Jackson did not follow Tolkien's version of how it happened in The Hobbit.

In the book, the eagles were NOT summoned. Gandalf did not summon them. They were just flying by when they saw the fire below and investigated. When they saw that goblins are harassing the party, they decided to help because they had no love for goblins. So they swooped down, picked the party up and dropped them just out of the goblin's reaches. It was done more to spite the goblins than anything.

And yes, they were intelligent and could talk in the book but Jackson never told his audience that. It kinda made sense in the book. Although I must say that it was a good idea to have the eagles fly them all the way. Save all the trouble. Haha. And you're not the first one to bring up this question. There were some who asked in LOTR why not just have the eagles fly Frodo to Mt. Doom so he could just chuck the ring in. It would have been a very short story if that had happened.
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The eagles were summoned by using butterfly/moth. They should have kept some in a jar. tongue.gif Seeing this again on Sunday night, in HFR3D.


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Now that someone brought it up... I kinda wondered how fast the moth could fly!!

In LOTR it made some sense as the eagle did not arrive to save Gandalf from Saruman's tower until quite some time had passed.

In The Hobbit, it seemed like the moth could do supersonic speed and alerted the eagles and had them come to the rescue in just a few minutes.

Taking into consideration that it tool some time for the eagles to get to where Gandalf and company were, that moth could have been flying faster than our modern jets could!!
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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 20 2012, 01:33 AM)
It's draggy even without thorough explanation, that's what I'm complaining. If this movie was made for fans like you only, then they should've said so on their poster and trailers so that people like me would understand and try to enjoy the film without knowing the heck is going on. But no, so I'll just take it as it's not done well enough.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 09:57 AM)
Now that someone brought it up... I kinda wondered how fast the moth could fly!!

In LOTR it made some sense as the eagle did not arrive to save Gandalf from Saruman's tower until quite some time had passed.

In The Hobbit, it seemed like the moth could do supersonic speed and alerted the eagles and had them come to the rescue in just a few minutes.

Taking into consideration that it tool some time for the eagles to get to where Gandalf and company were, that moth could have been flying faster than our modern jets could!!
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Science/logic in a fantasy film with wizard, elves and dwarfs? Ok then, an interesting fact is that a male emperor moth can detect a female about 6 miles (11 km) away. Moths have an extraordinary sensory detection so yeah, word could travel fast I suppose in Middle-Earth, no idea if it can work both ways but just an interesting fact. Zzzz...
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Science/logic in a fantasy film with wizard, elves and dwarfs? Ok then, an interesting fact is that a male emperor moth can detect a female about 6 miles (11 km) away. Moths have an extraordinary sensory detection so yeah, word could travel fast I suppose in Middle-Earth, no idea if it can work both ways but just an interesting fact. Zzzz...
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Well, I was just wondering. Any kind of story on any kind of media does need some degree of suspension of disbelief on the reader's/viewer's to work but if you go too far, people start complaining. biggrin.gif

Wizards, elves and what-not can exist but the imaginary world still need to abide by some form of logic and that logic needs to be consistent. We can see that Gandalf is a wizard adept at fire and light magic but if he starts to spew laser bolts out from his fingers, people will start to complain.

The moth case is just inconsistent. Not a biggie.
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Really liked the 48fps, made the 3D a lot better, though I do think it makes your eyes strain more, having to process fake 3D at twice the frequency.
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I just rewatch The Hobbit yesterday in 48fps 3D and it is a TOTALLY different movie.

The images JUST POPS OUT AT YOU!!

This is the WAY the movie should really be seen.

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QUOTE(tonYe @ Dec 19 2012, 10:54 PM)
The first half. All that talking without thorough explanation. Two of the biggest questions I have is... why can't Gandalf get the birds to fetch them all the way to the destination from the beginning? Why does he use Bilbo's house as meeting point without his consent? He also disappears for no reason and predictably appears at the right time. Why doesn't he use his magic as much as he obviously needed to anyway? Also, what is with the rocks that started fighting each other? Seems like this movie is made purely for the fans of the book. Still good to watch, given that I was ignoring these gaps.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 09:57 AM)
Now that someone brought it up... I kinda wondered how fast the moth could fly!!

In LOTR it made some sense as the eagle did not arrive to save Gandalf from Saruman's tower until quite some time had passed.

In The Hobbit, it seemed like the moth could do supersonic speed and alerted the eagles and had them come to the rescue in just a few minutes.

Taking into consideration that it tool some time for the eagles to get to where Gandalf and company were, that moth could have been flying faster than our modern jets could!!
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Even the scene in LOTR was not following the book if i remember correctly. Radagast was passing along a message to this particular eagle for Gandalf, and he arrived at Saruman's tower and Gandalf asked him for help. I could be remembering it wrong though, need to consult the books tongue.gif

Meaning again, Gandalf doesn't go around summoning the eagles on a whim rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Dec 20 2012, 01:50 PM)
the stone giants were in the book and it was not explained in the book why were they fighting rolleyes.gif
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Lol, I wonder why they started fighting. I think eventually they got 'too close' due to slow movement of the Earth's crust and bumped into each other. Perhaps that's why they were called a myth since barely anyone has actually seen them fighting. That scene was incredible... it really felt like two behemoths fighting.
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QUOTE(axoloke @ Dec 20 2012, 02:06 PM)
Even the scene in LOTR was not following the book if i remember correctly. Radagast was passing along a message to this particular eagle for Gandalf, and he arrived at Saruman's tower and Gandalf asked him for help. I could be remembering it wrong though, need to consult the books tongue.gif

Meaning again, Gandalf doesn't go around summoning the eagles on a whim  rolleyes.gif
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You are right, of course. In the books, there were no moths. I was referring to Peter Jackson's version which was inconsistent. The time it took the moth to relay the message varied greatly. Thus I was wondering if moths on Jackson's Middle Earth could break the sound barrier in flight. Wouldn't it have been cool to see the little moth make a tiny cone shaped cloud and hear the sonic boom as it broke through the sound barrier? rolleyes.gif
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then don't watch movies at 1080p because it is too clear like they are talking to you  doh.gif
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1080p can still be in 24fps and as clear as being there - ie: bluray with the 'smooth motion'/high refresh rate interpolation feature turned OFF on the TV.

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 02:34 PM)
You are right, of course. In the books, there were no moths. I was referring to Peter Jackson's version which was inconsistent. The time it took the moth to relay the message varied greatly. Thus I was wondering if moths on Jackson's Middle Earth could break the sound barrier in flight. Wouldn't it have been cool to see the little moth make a tiny cone shaped cloud and hear the sonic boom as it broke through the sound barrier?  rolleyes.gif
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Bro, you have to chill a bit with Peter Jackson. It is Hollywood after all. Do you remember the Frodo at Mount Doom part right before the lava? The ring had initially cursed Gollum that if he is to touch the ring again, he will fall to his death in Mount Doom. It is a very critical part because the message by Tolkien then is that Evil will defeat itself. Frodo is never meant to snatch the ring from Gollum but in the movies with Frodo snatching and him hanging precariously with only one arm is so much more dramatic.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Dec 20 2012, 05:12 PM)
Bro, you have to chill a bit with Peter Jackson. It is Hollywood after all. Do you remember the Frodo at Mount Doom part right before the lava? The ring had initially cursed Gollum that if he is to touch the ring again, he will fall to his death in Mount Doom. It is a very critical part because the message by Tolkien then is that Evil will defeat itself. Frodo is never meant to snatch the ring from Gollum but in the movies with Frodo snatching and him hanging precariously with only one arm is so much more dramatic.
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Ok... ok.. I'll chill. biggrin.gif

It's just that I'm mad at Hollywood in general. Mad at the way they have traded good story for special effects and gee-whiz cutting edge techy stuff and especially mad when you-know-who decided to jump on that bandwagon.

We've been fed movies that are getting worse and worse in terms of story or plot. Just look at Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen. And Avatar before that. And the Twilight flicks. Heck even Hunger Games was lame.

So, for all those out there who has not seen The Hobbit. Go see it and decide for yourself. Don't listen to me ok? smile.gif


Anyway, I'm just poking fun. And yes, I do agree that with Frodo and Gollum battling near the end is dramatic. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 10:45 AM)
Well, I was just wondering. Any kind of story on any kind of media does need some degree of suspension of disbelief on the reader's/viewer's to work but if you go too far, people start complaining.  biggrin.gif

Wizards, elves and what-not can exist but the imaginary world still need to abide by some form of logic and that logic needs to be consistent. We can see that Gandalf is a wizard adept at fire and light magic but if he starts to spew laser bolts out from his fingers, people will start to complain.

The moth case is just inconsistent. Not a biggie.
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Have you considered that where Gandalf is in The Hobbit may be alot closer to the Eagles nest then compared to Saruman's Tower...

Totally silly answer.

Just being silly!! tongue.gif
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Possible for me to understand the story of this movies if I never watch any lord of the ring series before ?
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Dec 20 2012, 05:38 PM)
Have you considered that where Gandalf is in The Hobbit may be alot closer to the Eagles nest then compared to Saruman's Tower...

Totally silly answer.

Just being silly!! tongue.gif
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I have entertained that thought! biggrin.gif But I decided that it wasn't the case. If the eagles were so close, they would have seen the commotion themselves. No need for messenger moths. biggrin.gif


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Possible for me to understand the story of this movies if I never watch any lord of the ring series before ?
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Yes. It's totally possible but you may be missing a lot of references.
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QUOTE(seiluen @ Dec 20 2012, 05:49 PM)
Possible for me to understand the story of this movies if I never watch any lord of the ring series before ?
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Very good question and the answer is, YES!

This story/movie takes place BEFORE The Lord of The Ring.

Personally, I would RECOMMEND you see it in the 48fps 3D format.

Again, emphasis on the word, personally

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Dec 20 2012, 06:06 PM)
Very good question and the answer is, YES!

This story/movie takes place BEFORE The Lord of The Ring.

Personally, I would RECOMMEND you see it in the 48fps 3D format.

Again, emphasis on the word, personally

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Thanks ! Will catch this movie up tonight. So,after I watch this..I can follow up LOTR tongue.gif
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QUOTE(seiluen @ Dec 20 2012, 06:17 PM)
Thanks ! Will catch this movie up tonight. So,after I watch this..I can follow up LOTR  tongue.gif
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You probably want to wait for Part 2 and 3 of The Hobbit first.

Truth to be told, after watching this movie, you'll understand why the LOTR books/movie exist!! nod.gif

Enjoy you luck so and so!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 02:34 PM)
You are right, of course. In the books, there were no moths. I was referring to Peter Jackson's version which was inconsistent. The time it took the moth to relay the message varied greatly. Thus I was wondering if moths on Jackson's Middle Earth could break the sound barrier in flight. Wouldn't it have been cool to see the little moth make a tiny cone shaped cloud and hear the sonic boom as it broke through the sound barrier?  rolleyes.gif
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Haha..then it becomes another genre movie already...Top Gun Moth?

Anyway, just good to have some discussions here on the movie. I always try to treat the movies as just another interpretation as movies and books are very different mediums. Some parts of LOTR also greatly annoyed me....but it is what it is.
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guys, now we have HFR 48fps 3D, will we have a HFR 48fps 2D?
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 20 2012, 09:05 AM)
The real reason for the apparently stupid move done by the giant eagles is because Jackson did not follow Tolkien's version of how it happened in The Hobbit.

In the book, the eagles were NOT summoned. Gandalf did not summon them. They were just flying by when they saw the fire below and investigated. When they saw that goblins are harassing the party, they decided to help because they had no love for goblins. So they swooped down, picked the party up and dropped them just out of the goblin's reaches. It was done more to spite the goblins than anything.

And yes, they were intelligent and could talk in the book but Jackson never told his audience that. It kinda made sense in the book. Although I must say that it was a good idea to have the eagles fly them all the way. Save all the trouble. Haha. And you're not the first one to bring up this question. There were some who asked in LOTR why not just have the eagles fly Frodo to Mt. Doom so he could just chuck the ring in. It would have been a very short story if that had happened.
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Thanks for clearing this up for me! I guess it makes more sense why the eagles can't carry Frodo in LOTR 'cause they might not have the will to fight the temptations of getting the ring for themselves. But what do I know, I never read the book haha

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funny that most of my frens are not fans....but they enjoyed the movie and everything is understood, without 'thorough explaination'. PJ done well there.
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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Dec 16 2012, 03:10 PM)
when I posted the question, I haven't finished reading book yet until now.

now that I finished it, I kinda have a glimpse of what will happened in the third movie. and kinda sad sad.gif
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I'm waiting for lady galadriel to destroy dol goldur with her epic magical powers , together with gandalf, elrond, radagast, and sarumon thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Dec 21 2012, 08:51 AM)
I'm waiting for lady galadriel to destroy dol goldur with her epic magical powers , together with gandalf, elrond, radagast, and sarumon thumbup.gif
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Dol Goldur already destroyed by the time of The Hobbit? And I do not think Saruman would take part as he was the one secretly trying to find the one ring and trying to keep everyone in the dark about Sauron's re-appearance.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 21 2012, 09:13 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Dol Goldur already destroyed by the time of The Hobbit? And I do not think Saruman would take part as he was the one secretly trying to find the one ring and trying to keep everyone in the dark about Sauron's re-appearance.
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Dol Guldur was somewhat abandoned by Hobbit.... Re-established by LOTR... and finaly destroyed by Galadriel when Sauron's defeat with the destruction of the RING... as per Wiki..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dol_Guldur
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Dec 21 2012, 09:22 AM)
Dol Guldur was somewhat abandoned by Hobbit.... Re-established by LOTR... and finaly destroyed by Galadriel when Sauron's defeat with the destruction of the RING... as per Wiki..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dol_Guldur
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guys, now we have HFR 48fps 3D, will we have a HFR 48fps 2D?
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I'm sure there will be.. but not looking forward to it.

My 48fps experience at tgv 1u - clear, sharp details, achieves a documentary style look which, for me, badly represents middle-earth - after being so accustomed to the previous trilogy at 24fps.

It was a struggle througout trying to enjoy 'the Hobbit' in HFR... i could tolerate static dialogue close-up scenes - but, as soon as the camera moves - OMG.. giant LED TV screen with motion-flow turned on.. even in 3d, its horrifying.

So, i walked out of halfway, when the dwarves arrive at rivendell - and going to good old imax3d at 24fps tomorrow.


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Just watched it last night. Still find it strange it is so different from the books

Were really surprised when i see orcs apperance

I think LOTR trilogy also don't have so much difference

Overall, not really a good movie in my opinion sad.gif

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A good show to spend the long holiday.
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I'm sure there will be.. but not looking forward to it.

My 48fps experience at tgv 1u - clear, sharp details, achieves a documentary style look which, for me, badly represents middle-earth - after being so accustomed to the previous trilogy at 24fps.

It was a struggle througout trying to enjoy 'the Hobbit' in HFR... i could tolerate static dialogue close-up scenes - but, as soon as the camera moves - OMG.. giant LED TV screen with motion-flow turned on.. even in 3d, its horrifying.

So, i walked out of halfway, when the dwarves arrive at rivendell - and going to good old imax3d at 24fps tomorrow.
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That's where I differ. I love how it feels. That's why I never minded on the 48fps. But I do admit that I had some sort of eye strain and wanted to relax so i took them off to compare how the depth was.

It's what I would think is a way to go forward. But not necessarily THE way. Getting accustomed to it will be the real issue.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Dec 21 2012, 09:22 AM)
Dol Guldur was somewhat abandoned by Hobbit.... Re-established by LOTR... and finaly destroyed by Galadriel when Sauron's defeat with the destruction of the RING... as per Wiki..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dol_Guldur
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The white council will attack Dol Guldur, with a hesitant Sarumon.

In the film adaptation, there is a hint Lady Galadriel will play a very important role when she said to Gandaff
"do not be afraid. I am always with you. If you need my help, I will come".

It will be an epic battle , hope the special effects will be nice. drool.gif drool.gif

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Was never a LOTR fan but after watching this I feel like giving LOTR another shot. Should I watch the extended versions or will the normal ones do?
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Was never a LOTR fan but after watching this I feel like giving LOTR another shot. Should I watch the extended versions or will the normal ones do?
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Added on December 22, 2012, 2:43 amAs a Tolkien fan and have read the book three times since early 2000, I really enjoyed the movie. It's truly made for the "fans". The only part I disliked though, is the "clash of the mountains" scene. Quite pointless.

I'm pretty sure part 3 will be really emotional, and cant wait to see how the battle of the five armies plays out. tongue.gif



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Why dont they have more dwarfs??? So some can get killed in battle? Can believe all of them survive all those things.
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Dec 22 2012, 02:37 PM)
Why dont they have more dwarfs??? So some can get killed in battle? Can believe all of them survive all those things.
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Dec 22 2012, 02:37 PM)
Why dont they have more dwarfs??? So some can get killed in battle? Can believe all of them survive all those things.
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This movie was very pale in comparison with LOTR. I actually almost fall asleep in some of the scene but this could be as I was really tired too.

Can't believe all the 13 or 14 dwarves survived all the hoo haa.

And can anybody please explain to me, why does the Dragon want gold for?!?!
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Just watch it first time @ TGV last night. OOOhhh My God!!!!! The picture quality is the best! And it's a roller coaster ride together with the dwafts through out the journey. I still can't believe my eyes!!
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This movie was very pale in comparison with LOTR. I actually almost fall asleep in some of the scene but this could be as I was really tired too.

Can't believe all the 13 or 14 dwarves survived all the hoo haa.

And can anybody please explain to me, why does the Dragon want gold for?!?!
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The dwarves might survived better since they were made to be sturdy to resist the dangers of their time. They were physically much stronger than humans, elves, and hobbits, and had great endurance, especially in the ability to resist great heat and cold, and they made light of heavy burdens.

It is in their nature for Fire-Drakes in middle earth. They posses an overwhelming greed for treasure (especially gold). By their very nature, it was desirable to them to not only steal beautiful things, but to relish the act of dispossessing those from whom they took such property.

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Saw it again last Sunday in HFR3D. The experience was miles better than on IMAX 3D. The clarity of the image is astounding, I don't think it can get any better.

I noticed a few quirks:

- Since the live-action plate is so clear, some scenes with visual effects may look clearly CG
- ...and some scenes with live-action tend to look CG due to the frame rate (e.g war sequence)
- Small movements with wide angle shots with no other movements in frame (e.g. walking), tend to look fast motion when in reality it is the way our eyes perceive it
- Takes about 15-20 minutes of HFR exposure from the start of the film to get used to it

As for the loss of movie feel, no, I don't think I wanted to feel it that way. I was watching a movie and it was still one.

In the end, I absolutely loved HFR3D. It really feels as close to reality as possible. It seemed to be 0.5 notch clearer than Digital 2D. For that, I'm really hoping we will see HFR2D in the future.

Also, I was able to name 10 dwarves after my second viewing compared to a meager 5 on my first viewing. tongue.gif






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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 27 2012, 12:20 PM)
Also, I was able to name 10 dwarves after my second viewing compared to a meager 5 on my first viewing.  tongue.gif
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I watched it in regular screen. After coming out of the cinema, I thought to myself, 3D version should be much better!

The news I heard that the movie is a bit boring is not untrue but I loved the movie. Yah the dialogues can be stale, but I still loved it!

Howard shore outdid himself again I must say. Misty mountain and song from a lonely mountain is just magnificent.
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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Dec 28 2012, 12:16 AM)
I watched it in regular screen. After coming out of the cinema, I thought to myself, 3D version should be much better!

The news I heard that the movie is a bit boring is not untrue but I loved the movie. Yah the dialogues can be stale, but I still loved it!

Howard shore outdid himself again I must say. Misty mountain and song from a lonely mountain is just magnificent.
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Holyboy27 - so what 3D better??

to all - just wan to ask watch 3D better or normal version ??

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Watched tis on iMax 3D, damn awesome!!
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Dec 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
Holyboy27  - so what 3D better??

to all - just wan to ask watch 3D better or normal version ??
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If 3D gives you headaches, don't watch in 3D - this movie is nearly 3 hours long.

If you watched movies in 3D before and preferred it over 2D then go with the 3D.

I rarely enjoy 3D movies. Felt The Avengers sucked in 3D but I recently watched Life of Pi in 3D and it was amazing.
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Dec 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
Holyboy27  - so what 3D better??

to all - just wan to ask watch 3D better or normal version ??
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Don't know exactly what could be better in 3D but I'd expect better visuals. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lordsapt @ Dec 28 2012, 09:41 AM)
Watched tis on iMax 3D, damn awesome!!
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Seems that 3D experience varies from cinemas to cinemas from what I read here. Want to watch it today but not sure want to go 2D or 3D. I'm at JB and I'm not sure if cinemas here good or not for 3D. Is it 3D really worth it guys?
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watched it wih a huge cup of popcorn and coke. had to control my bladder for the last 1 hour and the movie only started getting interesting then ..imo.

now...gotta wait for 1 more year for "There and back again".

Thumbs up!

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Dec 28 2012, 11:13 AM)
Don't know exactly what could be better in 3D but I'd expect better visuals.  laugh.gif
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but i going to watch later. ..ghehehe

hope the story will be interesting ..

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Honestly IMHO, the best way to enjoy the movie is still through Digital 2D experience.
If only we have Dolby Atmos installed here (rumor is, it's coming to Malaysia some time by mid-2013), it'll be fantastic.... Atmos is ear-porn.
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any one waited until the end of the credits??got any surprises ka?
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I have watched HFR 3D, planning to watch Imax 3D again.

Which one do you prefer as Imax is 24FPS only.
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Dec 30 2012, 06:31 PM)
I have watched HFR 3D, planning to watch Imax 3D again.

Which one do you prefer as Imax is 24FPS only.
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Is is possible that the movie still playing in cinema at the end of January?
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..the dragon Smaug flew south from the Grey Mountains, killed all the dwarves he could find, and destroyed the town of Dale. Smaug then took over the mountain, using the dwarven hoard as a bed.
What was the name of the King of Elves when King Thror (dwarves king) asking for help that time but the elves abandon him??
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just watched the movie again at TGV KLCC in 3D. it was totally different from GSC 3D MAXX. it's totally awesome. thumbup.gif
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Thorin, son of Thrall, son of Thor, son of Odin.. LOL laugh.gif
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watched at TGV KLCC with 3D..heck i got free 3D spec..yeah!!
movie-wise...for me, so so only..looking forward for episode 2..
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Watched 3D in TGV 1U .... love the HFR

But no english subtitles for the orc / elf languages ... is that normal for all 3D screenings? Have to read the malay, but kids not expert in malay yet


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Just saw it for the 3rd time today. Still EPIC! But my gf can't seem to stay awake watching it sad.gif
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Because the movie is basically boring...

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Quite alot of additional stuffs they put into the movie and some alteration at the Battle of Moria. Can't wait to see King Dain.

Overall, it does give me the Fellowship of the Ring vibe and yeah....it feels good to hear the LOTR theme song again.

Hopefully there's an extended version in this trilogy. lolll
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it was Thranduil
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but at least we can see Gimli's dad, Gloin in the company as well. They do share the similar axe as well
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It is not awesome but a good movie
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Before this i never watch LOTR but after watching The Hobbit i start watch LOTR.
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Before this i never watch LOTR but after watching The Hobbit i start watch LOTR.
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After watching the Hobbit, I teros download all 3 bluray extended version. Marathon one whole day.
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First look: Evangeline Lilly's elf warrior in 'The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug'

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When The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug hits theaters on Dec. 13, there will be a fresh face
among the residents of Middle-earth: Tauriel, an elf warrior played by Evangeline Lilly of Lost fame.

“She’s slightly reckless and totally ruthless and doesn’t hesitate to kill,” says Lilly. She’s also not
found anywhere in J.R.R. Tolkien’s original fantasy novel, or in any of Tolkien’s other writings for
that matter.



Director Peter Jackson and his co-writers on the Hobbit trilogy, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens,
invented the character to expand the world of the elves of Mirkwood Forest — and to bring some
more female energy to the otherwise male-dominated Hobbit narrative.
“Tauriel is the head of
the Elven Guard,” Lilly explains. “She’s a Sylvan Elf, which means she’s of a much lower order
than the elves we all became acquainted with in The Lord of the Rings. She doesn’t hold the same
kind of status that Arwen or Galadriel or Elrond or Legolas do — she’s much more lowly. She sort
of goes against the social order of the elves a little bit.”


Tauriel isn’t only a fierce warrior; she has a softer side, too. “She will definitely have a love story,” Lilly says.
“I can’t give away too much about it. It’s not a huge focus but it is there and it is important and it does drive
Tauriel and her story and her actions.” Will that romance involve Orlando Bloom’s Legolas, by any chance? Lilly
won’t say definitively one way or the other, but she does offer this much: “Tauriel’s relationship with Legolas is
significant. They’ve known each other since they were children, and Legolas’ dad, [Elven king] Thranduil, has a
soft spot for Tauriel and sees something very special in her. So if you grow up side by side, and your dad has a
very special spot in his heart for this young woman who’s a fantastic warrior, I think it’s hard not to notice her.”
She laughs. “That’s probably as much as I can say.”


Lilly is well aware that some Tolkien purists will be skeptical about the introduction of a new character. “I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there are going to be people who will totally hate Tauriel, think that she shouldn’t be in the movie, that it’s a betrayal of Tolkien, and no matter what I do it won’t be right,” she says. “There will be everything between that and people who adore her and think it’s such a fun thing to have added to the film. I kind of got prepped for that being on Lost, because we had avid fans who were really extreme in their feelings about the show and its characters. But I think if anyone knows how to respect Tolkien, it’s Peter, Fran and Phil. And Tauriel fits perfectly in that world.



TLDR;
-new female character, an elf named Tauriel that is created by P Jackson & co for Desolation of Smaug
-because it adds female energy to the movie
-most probably will have love story with Legolas in the upcoming movie
-that is all

soya sauce

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I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about this...
98% of me is saying that this is completely unnecessary unsure.gif

btw she looks like a female version of Link laugh.gif

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^ That's it. It's official now. Peter Jackson does not care for the source material. He's trying to re-invent the wheel as far as Tolkien's Middle Earth is concerned.

Not going to see the rest of the trilogy anymore.
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no female drawf at all lolz nor a female lead in the Unexpected Journey
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jun 6 2013, 10:22 AM)
^ That's it. It's official now. Peter Jackson does not care for the source material. He's trying to re-invent the wheel as far as Tolkien's Middle Earth is concerned.

Not going to see the rest of the trilogy anymore.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jun 6 2013, 10:22 AM)
^ That's it. It's official now. Peter Jackson does not care for the source material. He's trying to re-invent the wheel as far as Tolkien's Middle Earth is concerned.

Not going to see the rest of the trilogy anymore.
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QUOTE(janisu @ Jun 7 2013, 06:36 AM)
You'd rather miss out on Smaug as well?  sad.gif
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even if Benedict C is in it.
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The teaser trailer for The Desolation of Smaug will be unveiled on the 11th of June, at 10am PT / 1pm ET!

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aka 1am on Wednesday, June 12th, Malaysian time. If I'm not wrong.

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QUOTE(janisu @ Jun 10 2013, 11:47 AM)
The teaser trailer for The Desolation of Smaug will be unveiled on the 11th of June, at 10am PT / 1pm ET!

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Aaaand the teaser trailer is out!!


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Hmmm... it looks... pretty. tongue.gif The visuals look brilliant.
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The movie really looks beautiful. Evangeline Lilly as well. wub.gif
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was expecting smaug to speak at the end, but he didn't sad.gif

i hope they don't reveal a trailer with the dragon speaking in it albeit what i just said, else it'll ruin the cinema experience haha!

vivienne85 thranduil...dem eyebrows brows.gif
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QUOTE(janisu @ Jun 13 2013, 01:31 AM)
was expecting smaug to speak at the end, but he didn't sad.gif

i hope they don't reveal a trailer with the dragon speaking in it albeit what i just said, else it'll ruin the cinema experience haha!

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:37 AM)


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The Hobbit (2012) Addendum

Peter Jackson is releasing an extended version of the The Hobbit, on Bluray in November 2013....

OH MY GOSH!!!!
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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ Jul 24 2013, 10:29 PM)
The Hobbit (2012) Addendum

Peter Jackson is releasing an extended version of the The Hobbit, on Bluray in November 2013....

OH MY GOSH!!!!
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Hey, it might be interesting to see Bilbo Baggins preparing ALL his MEALS in minute details!! tongue.gif

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All i can say about the hobbit is amazing really a good movie hope to watch it again in some DVD
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It's amazing Tolkien's tale can now be collaborated/collerated with Today's understanding of human evolution/history/scientific evidence now:

There were 5 Homo species living together at approx 30k years ago:
1. Homo sapiens
2. Homo neanderthal
3. Homo erectus
4. Homo floresiensis
5. Denisovan

Correlation physiologically:
1. Homo sapiens = The Age of Men .....Humans (Men)
2. Homo neanderthal = Stocky, Strong, just a little shorter = Dwarf
3. Homo erectus = Just as tall, grows fast, not as clever = Orcs
4. Homo floresiensis = 1m in height = Hobbit
5. Denisovan = No one knows how they look like..... but they would not likely have blue eyes or blonde hair... (but with brown hair/skin/eyes)... = Elfs .... the only one out physiologically, I suppose.

Evolutionary...All 1,2,4, and 5 were derived from 3 though.... So Saruman should have said "All men, dwarfs and hobbits (& elfs) were once Orcs...."

There are scientific evidence H. sapiens bred with H. neanderthal (Human & Dwarf hybrid)..... and H. sapien with Denisovan (Human & Elf hybrid)

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The next Desolation of Smaug trailer will be released on Tuesday, 6am PT / 9am ET!


Hopefully this one still doesn't reveal Smaug's voice. wink.gif
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Khan is now Smaug. We get to hear more of his awesome voice!

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