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Discussion Something is wrong with Malaysian's football, According to FIFA's Jean-Michel Benezet

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post Feb 1 2008, 09:36 AM

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local footballer need to increase their fitness level. S.korea, japan, china, african team, middle east team ........ all of them built up the fitness at 1st then come with tactical aspect.
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post Feb 1 2008, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 31 2008, 10:05 AM)
Interesting, never knew that our league had odd numbers. sweat.gif
I'm still living back in the two tier system when Olle was leading Sabah up the charts!
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You're a Sabah fan?
Olle? Matlan Marjan? Mikael Vana? heheheheh


Added on February 1, 2008, 9:49 am
QUOTE(bob @ Feb 1 2008, 09:36 AM)
local footballer need to increase their fitness level. S.korea, japan, china, african team, middle east team ........ all of them built up the fitness at 1st then come with tactical aspect.
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ppl eat cereals, high energy food for breakfast..
our players probably tibai roti canai, nasi lemak, mee mamak and nasi kandar for breakfast...how to stay fit?

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i kinda feel tht FAM lost the plot a decade ago. i mean, instead of establishing a stable and professional league structure, they keep changing it according to their fancy. look at japan, they only started their pro league, the j-league in the early 90s (around 1992, i think) and now, they are one of the top teams in asia. they have players playing in european leagues (think shunsuke nakamura) and have beaten top footballing countries. we, on the other hand, lose to other teams on a regular basis and our local teams can't even make it past the group stage in the afc cup. i mean, how long will this go on??? watching our local football matches is so boring and embarassing tht i give up after 5 minutes.
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Something is wrong with Malaysian's football
According to FIFA's Jean-Michel Benezet (Discussion)

Wait, what something? mad.gif
EVERYTHING in the fam from top to bottom is wrong...It has never been correct...
talk about giving ex players to head FAM instead of some politician or ppl in power...
and less corruption and politics, but more passion and commitment to the game, then we'll see the light at the end of the tunnel...
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:34 AM

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unless the tunnel is never-ending, which seems to be the downfall of malaysin football
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post Feb 1 2008, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(johnjenin @ Jan 31 2008, 09:10 PM)
IMO, most of the LYN people didn't aware why there are 13 teams in Liga Super this season.

Anyone notice last season we have 14 teams? Do we know what happen? Please dont blind bash. At least come out with at least an idea on what is going wrong in developing our football standard.

Better dont post just to bash and told thats why our ranking is the lowest on history because of 13 is the suwei number...

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I for one didn't notice. Why? Because I don't give a rats ass anymore. Our players consist of spoilt brats or those with little ambition. As such the standard of football they dish out is an EMBARRASSMENT! Corruption and greed has killed our football just as it will everything else in this country. It's frustrating to say that we are where we belong to be. We are reaping what we have sown. "Dai Sei!".
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but our local players still get high salary for playing school kids football..
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post Feb 1 2008, 01:21 PM

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Just a simple things........ get all those politician stay out from our football especially the FAM deputy then our national team will be get better including all the football club in Malaysia......
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post Feb 1 2008, 02:03 PM

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13 team in the league ...== 1 club will have advantage.....did the FAM officer learn mathematic b4??


Added on February 1, 2008, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(nando @ Feb 1 2008, 09:48 AM)
You're a Sabah fan?
Olle? Matlan Marjan? Mikael Vana? heheheheh


Added on February 1, 2008, 9:49 am
ppl eat cereals, high energy food for breakfast..
our players probably tibai roti canai, nasi lemak, mee mamak and nasi kandar for breakfast...how to stay fit?
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totally agreed.....and 1 more thing ...their passing are very poor....even stop the ball also sometime can get miss sweat.gif

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post Feb 1 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 1 2008, 02:03 PM)
13 team in the league ...== 1 club will have advantage.....did the FAM officer learn mathematic b4??


Added on February 1, 2008, 2:05 pm
totally agreed.....and 1 more thing ...their passing are very poor....even stop the ball also sometime can get miss sweat.gif
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futhermore, they like to play long ball... doh.gif
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 1 2008, 02:03 PM)
totally agreed.....and 1 more thing ...their passing are very poor....even stop the ball also sometime can get miss sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vutsi @ Feb 1 2008, 03:17 PM)
futhermore,  they like to play long ball... doh.gif
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Hehehe, sounds a bit like the LYN football club games...
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well..i dont really watch msian football
but from what my father told me
back then probably 30 years back..the msian football team is a legend
not racist here..but back then when the msia squad consist of so many chinese players
they were able to compete with top countries....
well im not sure about this..but my father says the msian national team now is no where near the msian national team 30 years back or more...
i wonder how true is it unsure.gif ..anyone got history of our msian national team back then?
perhaps post it here and enlighten us

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jan 31 2008, 06:12 PM)
Does anyone know how Khairy is qualified to hold the position that he is holding?
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You can dig up an old thread on Malaysian Football a page or 2 back. There are a few comments on our team of old.
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Feb 1 2008, 03:39 PM)
well..i dont really watch msian football
but from what my father told me
back then probably 30 years back..the msian football team is a legend
not racist here..but back then when the msia squad consist of so many chinese players
they were able to compete with top countries....
well im not sure about this..but my father says the msian national team now is no where near the msian national team 30 years back or more...
i wonder how true is it  unsure.gif ..anyone got history of our msian national team back then?
perhaps post it here and enlighten us
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Is this for real?? i only can remember one name.. SOH CHIN AUN.. he play along with Supermokh and Arumugam.. nod.gif
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2 of kedah's players has been pulled out politically ... this is malaysian football thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Feb 1 2008, 04:20 PM)
Is this for real?? i only can remember one name.. SOH CHIN AUN.. he play along with Supermokh and Arumugam..  nod.gif
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They key is that they were multi-racial. Now, it's dominated predominantly by one race. I've heard suggestions that they Chinese aren't interested anymore because of the low pay. Come on, a good footballer here earns decent money does he not? Couple that by the amount they take in bribes and you live a good life, no??? If you ask me, it's the politics that sicken the other races from wanting to play for the national team, or at club level for that matter? What's the point of being the most skilled footballer around but not being selected because you aren't a son of so and so? It's frustrating and it's like banging your head on the wall. The other races are just sick of it, has nothing to do with the pay and so on.
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Yes... u got the point... so what are u suggesting to let our team being more multi racial?? Is that more multi racial, then more in quality? I dont think it is bout that.. it is just about the situation surrounding.. from top management to the player..

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Feb 1 2008, 04:50 PM)
Yes... u got the point... so what are u suggesting to let our team being more multi racial?? Is that more multi racial, then more in quality? I dont think it is bout that.. it is just about the situation surrounding.. from top management to the player..
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I just think that players should be selected based on meritocracy, regardless of race. It's not just about race, it's about letting your ability determine if you deserve a spot in the team, not who you know and so on. I'll bet that there is a kampung boy somewhere who is better than his Malay counterparts at club and even national level, but doesn't get an opportunity because he is a nobody. Some Datuk comes along and tells the coach to put his son in instead, and it's done.

Why do I think it's important for the squad to be multi-racial then? It's no secret that the racial divide has widened. Many Malaysians of Chinese or Indian decent are less patriotic now, I'm one such example. I feel like I'm a 2nd class citizen when this is my country. Let's not go into politics, I'm sure you know what I'm getting at. The Chinese and Indians are looking out for themselves now and as a collective nation, we are growing further apart from one another. In the past, the team fought as one, Malaysians.

The mental strength of our current crop of players is another thing. They don't seem to have any aspirations and are afraid of change. Take the players that were sent abroad only to get homesick as a case in point. Here you are, given an opportunity to play for some of the best youth setups in the world, and you choose to come back to play for Pahang because you miss nasi lemak and the weather is too cold? I'd bet my bottom dollar that if someone with more desire, and has not adopted the 'kampung' mentality were given the opportunity, they would jump at it. Take Titus Palani as an example. Our players are spoilt, they don't even have a proper diet regiment. They are mentally weak and crumble or panic under pressure. They don't show the willingness to fight till the end.

You may not want to admit it, but racial politics does exist in football, just as it does in every other sector in Malaysia.
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what happened to titus palani nowadays r?

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