They are not recommended to be given any fruits because of the high level sugar content of the said fruits.

For me i only fed fruits to tropical species chelonians.

Pumpkin is a good dewormer, i feed them once a month. About hibiscus flower and leaves they get to eat it when i go back to my hometown or i find any of those beside of the road

Alfafa hay is not recommended for them imho, try timothy hay.

Thanks for the info sam. I forgot what and why it is not recommended. Its not about the calcium or protein level but something else which i cant recall correctly. I will try to search around the article again and post it here.

Some people do give dog/cat biscuit to give the other vitamin trace but like 2 weeks once or monthly. This is because the biscuit contains high level of protein which is not good for ST especially.

To get the best vitamin and minerals we are advised to alternate the food and have more variety of vege to balance the pro and cons of each vege. Apart from that, do sprinkle some multivitamins on to their food to help give minerals and vitamins which cannot be taken from the vege.

One thing to take note, from my exp it is best to alternate the use of the calcium supplement and multivitamins from different make to balance out the minerals and vitamin intake.

My 0.05 cents

This post has been edited by uzairi: Mar 15 2008, 12:10 PM

Yes, they are different. Because for example, some calcium are from calcium citrate or calcium carbonate. Some vitamins are also from diff sources so best if you have at least 2 of each supplement to work best.

How about mixing the mustard greed with the hibiscus leaves ? And do try the starving method.

They should help us.

what do you think ?

should be star "tortoise".

When sunbathing, please put some water inside the same container so that it can get the necessary UVB and wont get dehydrated that fast coz they can drink the water if they wish to do so.

It takes some time and patience so dont worry bro.

Put your st in a diff container to stop it eating the wood bedding. Bad impaction might occur if too many swallowed.

Read few pages back, the forumer did mentioned about it.

No problem bro! I understand your situation.

It would be a problem if the ST swallowed quite amount of it.

Like what i said, a bit is okay but if too much it would cause impaction. This is better compared to those wood chips and wood bark.

IINM its an Indian Star Tortoise.

Those are individual characteristics so the patches wont influence the way they eat

Its just like human bro, you have black hair but the hair type is diff.

Yes it is important to keep them healthy. Do get those supplements as they can help your ST to be healthy.

Seller and traders are like that, all they want it money!

Labi-labi is chinese softshelled turtle.

Depends on the species, tropical species is okay but not for desert and dry type. Oh ya, they are called animal protein.

Just watch their nose if there's any mucus like liquid or bubbles.

ST and Leopard setup should be roughly the same, the only thing that differs between them is their diet.

Their rays and under plastron.

yes they can eat them no problem but only for treat not staple.

Oyster Mushroom.

That is normal bro, dont worry.

It is ok, no doubt about it. Just that we are stressing that it is not good for staple. Alternating them with other vege is okay.

Some might have natural pyramiding but its not that obvious. That was mainly because of the diet or genetic traits.

Like what crazymouse_yyh said, go and see the vet to get the calcium injection.

Great tag bro!

The smoothness of the pyramiding and the shape.

Thanks bro!

oi apek!

Check the tail and the cloaca openings.

In Pets Safari,ikano at Toby Pets.

[quote=blazin_fir3,Mar 23 2008, 10:58 PM]
Apparently stated all over net that its safe to feed them but Uzairi mentioned that sawi would be better for staple..i asked the same thing few pages back too..haha..

edit: try this..feed after sun basking..i realise my tort's appetite is much better after sunning..

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Sawi is easier to get in big quantity compared to those hibiscus leaves and flowers. So giving them the hibiscus leaves and flowers as treat would be better imho. My 0.5 cents

[quote=Skatila,Mar 23 2008, 11:00 PM]
.....just want to ask u guys, planning to buy night glow... it is the exo terra night glow is a good lamp for heating at night? ....

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What Fat Catz say is true, better use those heat wave lamp to avoid the stress at night time caused by the light.

[quote=Skatila,Mar 24 2008, 04:14 PM]
so what is the best for Hygrometer output during the Daytime n Nite time?

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It would be best to keep it on 60%~ plus minus.

[quote=pisang,Mar 24 2008, 09:46 PM]
[quote=Skatila,Mar 24 2008, 09:22 PM]
UVB already comes wif UVA ....

what brand and how much?

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Exo Terra would do. About the price i cant remember so you need to check it yourself. Pets Safari in Ikano, Damansara keep them in stock.

This post has been edited by uzairi: Mar 24 2008, 10:58 PM

More and more ppl coming!

Dont la call me sifu Im just like you guys learning also...

Great point bro!

Too small to be sexed

At that age, dont feed too much long beans bro.

4cm is too small to be sexed, 4 inch is a good size to be sexed.