even collection of local species are impossible to complete, since their status on CITES (LOL) prevent them from being reared. play safe

pastel (although the term is vague and contains many many strains of colour variations) differs from normal res in terms of overall coloration, markings, and of course their price. those two in the picture are genetic pastel, which means that they would pass their genes to their offspring.

the thing with pricey morph is, people won't easily throw them away when they're bored, unlike their rm5 counterpart. the state of florida, for instance, had banned the sales of RES except for morphs, knowing that expensive things won't be easily disposed off (malaysia should do the same!!!)

Not really...if im not mistaken there are some people keeping yni...man...i admire these people...

What camillenoir meant is to keep them legally !!


As for the Yni part they are kept in closet bah LOL

Does it make any difference? I mean...some sellers are selling legally and some are not...the buyers are just the buying without the knowledge...most of the buyers dont even know whether it is illegal to keep certain types of tortoises...

Speaking of which...I really hate those sellers who sell the TTTs for the sake of selling...for the sake of profit...without paying attention to the environment and the conditions of the TTTs...bloody unethical at all...

Imagine that turtles are being kept in a pale without water...tortoises being kept in a captivity without any appropriate tools...

Its very heartbreaking when I see these scenarios

Agree 100 % and all too common !!

The most classic case being Indian Star being termed / sold as desert tortoise and the seller / shop keeper telling buyer that they dont need to drink water !!!

not half as bad as this one seller who keeps his star in aquatic setup with RES!!!

(duyong aquarium in malacca, address: jln seri duyong 1/2, tmn. sri duyong. near fauziah clinic there. malaccans are welcomed to check on whether that star had miraculously survived!!! oh yeah, i hate the seller, hence the publication of address.)



yup.. makes a whole lotta differences mate. if you are caught with illegal specimens, its all on your neck, not the seller's. you'll be facing fines, confiscation, kopi money extor... oops.. in other words, let's just play safe

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 4 2008, 03:33 PM

Would "love" to see that !!

ooo...fortunately all my turtles are not endangered or forbidden from being kept...i am safe mate

hello..i often read in most of the tortoise pages keep mentioning dat it is good to fed the star tort wif the hibiscus leaves n flowers..wut kind of hibiscus actually? is it d ordinary "bunga raya' planted along the municipal road?

Ya !! Even the coloured flowered one !!

hey.. let's play a game. no prizes for the right answer though



those two are from the same clutch, hatched a day apart. they are now about two months old, both equally active and eating well.

the question: why is there such a huge size difference between those two?

wait a minute, is that your and you gave someone? like your cousin or someone you know.
cause yesterday my house mate when he came back, he show me the same exactly two box turtle like that.
he gave me the big one.
his name is wan from sibu.

Different diet feed maybe ?

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Oct 5 2008, 08:56 PM

i think both were keep in separate and different amount of space.

max-oasism: i gave away lots of boxies, but nope, those two are still with me.

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they are kept in the same place and given the same diet. the size difference occurs since the 1st day. the bigger one is currently 5.0cm SCL and the smaller one 3.9cm.

clue: the answer lies in numbers

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 5 2008, 09:31 PM

Twins?

chetz.. anti-climax.

i should've stated that rafiqos, uzairi and mamba are barred from answering because they knew beforehand

3 babies came from that clutch.. one of the twins didn't make it. crossing my fingers for more twins from their parents (like i knew which, LOL!!!)

what do you mean by lie in numbers?
as if one of them are from first clutches and the other from second clutches?

I have a same situation here...two of my RES are from the same batch where they were hatched at the same time...but the male one has grown way way way way bigger than the female one...they feed on the same diet as well as the same captivity...

what is going on anyway? anyone has any idea?

Wow twins !! the 3.9 cm must have hatched out tiny !! or only very little growth for the 2 months !!