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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with**V10**, (NEW SAGA) Come to join the fun^_^

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post Feb 21 2008, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Feb 21 2008, 01:48 AM)
siapa nak gaduh ngan dia  doh.gif
harga belum runding dgn boss sticker tu.  sad.gif
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ooo... tarak gaduh ahh... good lar... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(blackpc @ Feb 21 2008, 11:08 AM)
any of u got pics of rear strut bar installed in proton saga/iswara? I wanna see.. please post it up. tq. wink.gif
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jeng jeng jeng

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Feb 21 2008, 02:01 PM)
Eh sifu catacomb, wanna ask where do you get the ufo thingy? How much does it cost?
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what ufo thing??.. my car got many ufo u know.... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 21 2008, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 21 2008, 02:42 PM)
and the driver himself is an alien
wah u put a component set at rear?
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brows.gif brows.gif

what component set??... i jz replace my stock speakers with 3x9 speakers mar... i'm running capalang amp for my ICE.... no component set lar....
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post Feb 22 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 21 2008, 06:16 PM)
y ur 3x9 look so round? lol
another suiteng supporter spotted
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dunno... mine capalang 3x9 speaker...

about the suiteng, i jz joined suiteng voting campaign region.... flex.gif

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 21 2008, 09:51 PM)
u cut the steel rod to put speaker arr?
i heard soundstream nid amp to boost ler....
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yeap.... cut the steel rod... thats why it is bending out of shape now... sweat.gif

QUOTE(Shinichi @ Feb 21 2008, 09:53 PM)
Yes, how's the FC if comparing latest Saga with 10 year old wira? I'm thinking of maybe change to new Saga. But need more opinions first.
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new saga ahh??... dunno leh... but initial test drive, u surely need to depress ur throttle pedal more to get the car going... so, judge urself lor if fuel saving or not around city drive....
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Feb 22 2008, 01:16 AM)
aiks...since when sifoo cat become female.. hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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vote for suiteng.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Feb 22 2008, 02:19 AM)
shemale~  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif
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susuteng... rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Feb 22 2008, 02:27 AM)
maybe becos of drive-by-wire tech?i felt awkward too when using my fren's savvy because of that throttle lag thingy sweat.gif
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yeah... throttle uses TPS (throttle position sensor)... means drive by wire... thats why laggy coz need to wait for the electronics to react....

QUOTE(blackpc @ Feb 22 2008, 06:45 AM)
cat, we have to drill all 3 points right? Do they measure and mark the drilling points 1st?
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yealer... of coz need to measure, mark and drill.... u pakai hantam only, later not alligned properly u susah..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 23 2008, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Feb 22 2008, 07:36 PM)
ahh.. ok. thanks for the inputs.  thumbup.gif
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u are welcome.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(lipan_angkasa @ Feb 22 2008, 08:48 PM)
Hello fellas.....how do you do...im a new man in this thread....

my car is....
Proton Iswara 1.3....standard
blue metallic....

just want to say hi to u guys....
well do you know that sagaiswara has a club?

www.sagaiswaraclub.com 

call me lipan
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hi there... welcome to the thread...

well, do u know there are even more saga iswara clubs than u expected??...
http://www.sioc.cjb.net/
http://z7.invisionfree.com/iasfanclub/index.php?
http://z4.invisionfree.com/Saga_Iswara_Clu...dex.php?act=idx

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 22 2008, 10:56 PM)
tat is high man... our fren cabby with webber only cost around that...
my LMST give me RM0.133 to RM0.17+
RM0.1333 also i din lighten my leg if i lighten my leg i think i can achieve RM0.13 or below RM0.133 i drove 100% highway and overtaken car picking up sometime at 80km/h press 3/4 throttle to make the car pickup.. carrying 5 adults some more...with my dad 100+kg lol
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who is that with webber on board??... ohmy.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 22 2008, 11:02 PM)
aiya.. apa susah susah... as if when alarm activated there will be good citizens come and stop ur car from being stolen.... they will jz look and think "why the owner so stupid tekan salah butang on his alarm remote?"... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(domo_kun @ Feb 23 2008, 12:26 AM)
just notice this a while back
the car seems to have more power after it reaches 3k rpm
acceleration would be smoother, too
anyone experience this too?
or was it meant to be in that way?
haha
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because u've reached max torque of ur engine mar... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 23 2008, 01:51 AM)
if u r driving bus or large van maybe 2k+ u can get ur max torque already..
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max torque at 2k rpm is diesel engine jor lor... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 23 2008, 07:59 AM)
picture picture blink.gif
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what picture??.. blink.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 23 2008, 08:43 AM)
wah so expensive 1 ar... u got open pod with bigger exhaust?got change piping or not?tune ur AFR already?
if i drive very agressive at highway meaning i would step up to 150km.h i also can get RM0.14+
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 23 2008, 09:47 AM)
Fast car..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif
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fast and fuel saving car... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(nightzstar @ Feb 23 2008, 06:47 PM)
In ur engine bay, the shiny ail filter. brows.gif brows.gif
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so whats with my shiny air filter??.. brows.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 23 2008, 10:21 PM)
no open pod. change to 4-2-1 n bullet with 2inch piping. 1.7inch s-flow muffler. b4 change also the same fc. not much diff.
no tune AFR. exhaust can smell some petrol >.<
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can smell unburnt petrol from exhaust means AFR mixture rich lor...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 23 2008, 11:56 PM)
Went near dopeisgood car, the perfume so nice smell.. Go inside howie car, the perfume so nice smell.. Go inside my car, no smell.. Stupid proton which make the air cond grill cannot put ambipur.. >_<
Welcome me or not? kakaka...
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go inside my car, can smell my armpit smell... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 23 2008, 11:58 PM)
Can but try at your own risk.. See howie drove his persona, reach 7k rpm and the power so strong.. 2nd gear at 110km/h.. First, he used my car to slide 180 degree U turn.. Then he used his car to do 180 degree U turn, His car so comfort and stable... But, my car brake become suck after change to 15inch rim.. Gonna to upgrade my brake...
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jom we buat gang rear disc brake... icon_idea.gif my campus already got 4 saga iswara with rear disc brake... there are a few more, but spotted a few times only, now MIA adi.... icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Feb 24 2008, 01:50 PM)
even i went for color tuning the smell still strong.. takkan still tune back to rich AFR rite.. haha
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haha... no idea ler... if minor minor fuel smell nothing geh... if fuel smell heavy den something wrong lor.... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 24 2008, 01:53 PM)
Rear disc brake? estimate cost how much? Cause I feel, front brake more important. Hehe.


Added on February 24, 2008, 2:06 pmcan someone tell me what is TIE SHOE ROD? Or something like that..
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my rear disc brake cost rm680 for the thing... rm110 for installation...

tie-rod lar... its the batang that connect from ur front knuckle to ur steering rack... control ur steering...
usually if tie-rod bushing KO adi, ur steering feels weird and alot of freeplay... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Feb 24 2008, 03:09 PM)
how's ur mirage rear disc brake project ongoing?...btw, mirage or vr4 rear disc brake better?...vr4 i know is around rm600-rm800 price range..
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project finish adi lor... but ebrake not as good as drum brakes... as expected lor....
mirage or vr4 better ahh??... mirage is plug n play lor... vr4 need to mod the base to fit in.... vr4 cost cheaper coz can be found everywhere mar.... mirage vr rare adi, thats why expensive....

on average, vr4 rear disc brake is cheaper than mirage rear disc brake (if can find) by rm1XX.... but installation, mirage disc is cheaper than vr4 by RM1XX.... the final product, mirage is plug n play... vr4 need to mod alot....

as for performance, vr4 disc is bigger than mirage (as claimed by my friend).... so i assume vr4 rear disc perform better... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Feb 24 2008, 05:16 PM)
i bought Vacuum..not yet install.
next week install at ah fai there.include everything wiring in my car.
saturday going there
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diy install lor.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 24 2008, 05:22 PM)
saga engine with weber lo flex.gif
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whose car??... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 24 2008, 08:00 PM)
mine stock only u can smoke me anytime...
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mine also stock leh... but i can smoke u lah... smoke with white smoke pouring out from exhaust pipe... laugh.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 24 2008, 08:41 PM)
Wednesday I wanna go half cut find bigger brake servo for my car.. maybe get Perdana brake servo.. Then if budget allow me, I will change to ATX Cross Drilled Disc as well.. Today went come back from KLIA, hitting 160km/h, brake failure..
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ATX got cross-drilled disc for saga meh??.... unsure.gif

QUOTE(nightzstar @ Feb 24 2008, 08:41 PM)
Sifu catacomb,How much does your shiny air filter cost? brows.gif
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mine cost rm150... second hand... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 24 2008, 11:06 PM)
Very sadly to received the seller PM, it dun have for saga/iswara...  cry.gif  cry.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 24 2008, 11:14 PM)
ya tat part funny last time my fren madza 626 play with a kancil.. that kancil smoke like that until we cant see the road damn funny my fren even joke that the kancil is running on minyak api lol... but y got white smoke if push the car too hard? the smoke is from the exhaust..
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white smoke means engine burning engine oil lor... means valve seal KO adi... need top overhaul.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 25 2008, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 24 2008, 11:36 PM)
Can Waja disc brake put into saga iswara? What brake servo can plug and play for saga/iswara?
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ermm... can but with mods... mods similar to vr4... remove the drum hub and skim it small as a base for ur disc to sit on... then fabricate a new bracket for the calipers... end result, ur offset will be abit out and ur lug nuts will be abit shorter.... icon_rolleyes.gif

pnp brake servo ahh??... as far as i know, vr4, sv4, sr20, pajero all can fit... i heard some other type of servo also can fit.... not too sure... but popular ones are vr4 and sv4... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 25 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Feb 25 2008, 08:45 AM)

Added on February 25, 2008, 8:56 amjus after browsing 4gtuners forum n found dis.. how true are the following??? anyone can give advise??

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this guide was edited by khoyos vr long time ago in terato forum... vr good guide, especially those speed freak like him... laugh.gif
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Feb 25 2008, 12:44 PM)

Added on February 25, 2008, 12:50 pm1. intake and exhaust
intake: keep the original air filter. those apexi, K&N, HKS power filters won't increase HP dramatically on small, NA engines. but CAI (cold air intake-DIY) usually help.
won't increase fuel consumption(standard)

exhaust: follow original route, 1.7/1.8 inch is the best. use big mufflers. those "tembak bulan" piping will only cause problems with authorities. for max acceleration, don't use mid silencer(bullet). for balance between pickup and top speed, use 1 bullet. for better top speed, use 2 (or more for hardcore) bullet. use powerzone extractor, it is the best for 4g13/15
slightly increase fuel consumption

don't use mid silencer(bullet). for balance between pickup and top speed, use 1 bullet. for better top speed, use 2 (or more for hardcore) bullet <---- dun use bullet? i just change bullet woh

i gonna change K&N air filter on Mid of march. mean no need change too?
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haha... thats why i said not exactly true lor... all settings depend vr much on ur engine setup... his previous saga was running vr high lift/duration cams with twin dcoes.....

i would say change to k&n filter helps... especially if u are those who lazy to check/change air filter all the time... paper filter works almost the same as branded filters, but the problem is paper filter clogs vr fast when it is dirty... unless if u change them frequently, they wont perform as good as performance filters like k&n... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 25 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 06:39 PM)
how much is the ori air filter any 1 can clarify?
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around 10bucks only mar....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 25 2008, 07:11 PM)
catcombs, just get latest info.. ATX got Cross drill brake disc for saga/iswara.. It cost Rm450 per pair.. So If I use that, the brake will become better or not? Or better get VR4 disk brake? VR4 front set brake only Rm550..
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not sure... but my money will be on vr4 disc brake.... bigger disc + calipers will still win standard size cross-drilled disc....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 25 2008, 07:27 PM)
What front or rear? The disc brake sure for front la.. Your brake is drum brake la.. Not disc brake.. Plug and play.. The VR4 front brake set also PnP...
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vr4 front brake pnp to what??.... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(SKYTECH @ Feb 25 2008, 08:12 PM)
Hi, I want to know what can 4g15 add on or modified to be more powerful.
I had a Iswara aeroback 4g13 year 95 , want to change to 4g61 or 4g91, but my mechanic say confirm will not pass, even pass also had to give kopi ,that I dun mind , just I dun want 1 day kena road block , whole car say bye bye to me ,and he add on say is not worth to change to 4g15 EFI , coz add more Rm 1000 – 2000 to buy halfcut  .Now he wanna change 4g15 carb with jpj approve fee and engine plus workmanship Rm2000 . Does it worth ? I wanna know wat 4g15 can turn into 1st before I  make up my mind to change which engine .SIFU SIFU pls help .
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4g15 engine u wanna turn into what??... carb cannot bolt on turbo... the max u can go for is oversize piston in ur 4g15 block and twin carb setup.... if u dont have much money, do step by step lor... upgrade to 4g15 first... then search for injection kit.... den only bolt on turbo (if u wanna go efi route).... if not, u want max power go for twin carb lor....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:18 PM)

Added on February 25, 2008, 8:19 pm
unless u r using branded cross-drilled disc lol...dunno brembo have small disc for us or not lol.. or spoon?
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brembo got... last time CSI member got sell... brembo replacement disc for saga iswara.... standard disc not cross-drilled or slotted... material is abit different compare to standard....
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post Feb 25 2008, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:26 PM)
twin carb? whats that?
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weber twin dcoe lo...

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:28 PM)
wah.. i tot some using brembo caliper cap only lol... i saw a wira with brembo caliper cap the cap size is bigger than the disc brake... so fake
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caliper is not brembo items.... only the disc is made by brembo..... dun mistaken...
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post Feb 25 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:29 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/638841
2 iswara 1 saga supporter... lol
andy's junior?
cat's junior?
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sohais cruising around in their car... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


Added on February 25, 2008, 8:35 pm
QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:32 PM)
brembo din make caliper? they made disc then use other manufacturer caliper?

twin dcoe see also scary already
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use back standard calipers... they only change the disc... the disc is same size and dimension as ur standard disc.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:35 PM)
wah. shocking.gif how many hp increase if pu tin 4g13 or 4g15? can use on 4g15 EFI or not? fc increase a lot arr?
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dunno how many hp increase ler....
efi use 4 throttle...

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fc confirm increase lar... u want power, sure have to sacrifice fc....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:35 PM)
i wonder tyre is so cheap and the car runs on water?
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they got mak bapak sponsor ma... doh.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:42 PM)

Added on February 25, 2008, 8:43 pmy they dun use brembo caliper?
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because they didnt manufacture it.... calipers are harder and much more expensive than manufacture compare to the disc....
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post Feb 25 2008, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:46 PM)
no la. just asking. another thing wanna to know is can DVVT engine fit into saga?
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whcich dvvt engine??... viva 1.1L dvvt engine??... hmm.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:46 PM)

Added on February 25, 2008, 8:47 pm
can u wan put in wat engine also can as long as the space is enough for it.. but the problem is puspakom & JPJ can allow or not... last time got ppl put nissan engine inside saga is it?
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who wanna put nissan engine inside saga??...

i know got people put 4age silvertop and b16a vtec engine inside saga lah... nissan havent seen before... unsure.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:53 PM)
lol i kinda fond of grand livina as my family of 6 would fit just nice..
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apasal tetiba semangat mpv??.. doh.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 25 2008, 08:54 PM)
yes.. change this change that, better change car saja..

Yesterday dig out those resit how muhc I spend for my ride.. Already achieve RM5k... Autogen resit also reach RM2k already...  sweat.gif
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lolz... can claim for autogen saham adi... laugh.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:54 PM)
renault engine arr brows.gif
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mitsu engine... 4g18 sohc....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 08:56 PM)
i tot all waja dohc? got sohc also ar? doh.gif
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abuhden...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Feb 25 2008, 09:05 PM)
Guyz.. What you will feel when you driving 160km/h, then give wira or waja tailgate and cannot chase them back.. Let share the feeling.. Haha.
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dunno... didnt try before... PLUS highway i alwiz follow bigger cars like camry, accord, civic and so on....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Feb 25 2008, 09:12 PM)
ur LMST 83bhp
wira 1.8Exi is 138bhp man... with original stock proton recaro seat some more..  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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those limited edition models gonna extinct soon lor... vr vr vr hard to find one pure original and good condition adi... recaros sure all stripped out and sell adi lar....

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