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post Mar 4 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 4 2008, 08:06 PM)
bro u ar malacca ppl?    blink.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 4 2008, 10:19 PM)
Actually is VR4 look like ah beng, then R3, also ah beng. R4 look nice.. haha..
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post Mar 5 2008, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 5 2008, 12:34 AM)
wah,

saga/iswara club quite many gay lou o    >.<''
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wanna join?? blush.gif

QUOTE(allenyip @ Mar 5 2008, 12:56 AM)
can install turbo in lmst ori engine a? cost how much? 1.3cc onli wo
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can say can... can say cannot... anything is possible in malaysia...

cannot because original 4g13p is carburetored engine... tuning is almost impossible because ur car will be running rich all the time to compensate the AFR when turbo spools...

can because... as i said... run extremely high AFR... someone has done it before, but removed already coz fuel consumption too costly....

QUOTE(allenyip @ Mar 5 2008, 01:02 AM)
weber? donno wats tat =.=" noob
costly?
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jeng jeng jeng...

http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Types/mak...ight_choice.htm

its jz another kinda carburetor... but whats good about this carb is its tuneability range is wide... and if u install twin carb dcoe, the effect would be almost like having individual throttle body in ur car....

QUOTE(andychan @ Mar 5 2008, 01:04 AM)
Ask sifu sky about this
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who is sifoo sky??... we wait for his further explaination... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Mar 5 2008, 06:38 AM)
jeng jeng jeng...
sky is the one with cap.. icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 5 2008, 07:21 AM)
i read some website say that weber will increase power n save fc. true or not? hmm.gif
which model of weber suit our car hmm.gif
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any model can suit our car, given that u got the correct setting for it.... as i said earlier, advantage of weber carbs are their versatility.... each carb can change jet sizes to suit different engine displacement... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(domo_kun @ Mar 5 2008, 08:36 AM)
@ catacombz
wahlau eh, you so lengchai...
come here, my dear, let me hug hug a bit
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Mar 5 2008, 09:13 AM)
cat spotted
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Mar 5 2008, 01:29 PM)
Sifu sky is the ones with spec? brows.gif....Mission accomplished.
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who said so... whistling.gif

QUOTE(nightzstar @ Mar 5 2008, 02:02 PM)
@sifu catacomb, ur air filter aftermarket or original proton. How ur fc using the shiny air filter. Oh ya one more question about exhaust, does it affect fc that much? How big is the diameter you recommend for me? If i am not mistaken, smaller exhaust give better pickup right, no need rev hard like macam no power je. Thinking of installing aftermarket exhaust but scare increase fc. Please advice. I focus on better pickup only. Using 1.3 manual
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i using k&n air filter... icon_rolleyes.gif fc improves... but of coz ur carb afr must constantly retuned to achieve good fc lah.... exhaust also wont affect fc that much lah, as long as u retune ur carb afr.... most important is to get a good setting...
piping diameter i suggest 1.7".... too small diameter can be restrictive, thus less power....

extractor get 421... midbox change to midbullet swirl type.... 1.7" piping ori route... straight flow muffler... k&n drop-in air filter with cold air intake... this should give u good pickup... remember to retune ur carb afr after u've done everything... smile.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 5 2008, 03:06 PM)
DIY paint today.. Outcome : Failed...  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  Will go paint my bumper and lips outside... Colour different!! KNNCB hardware fella.. Give me wrong colour!!!

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QUOTE(andychan @ Mar 5 2008, 06:11 PM)
that is our sifu sky  wub.gif  love yah  wub.gif
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gay sial... doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 5 2008, 07:18 PM)
i aiming the DFV series weber.but dunno can ngam 4g13 anot hmm.gif
still finding info of it
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DFV weber carb not really common around malaysia... common ones are dcnf, dgv and dcoe.... try hunt for dcnf... u'll have much wider tuning choice.... even dgv carbs are running out of suitable jets in malaysia.... sad.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 5 2008, 08:39 PM)
sky@
i try to find more info about it....really wan play weber for fun tongue.gif
no money transplant den try weber  brows.gif
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yeap... if u really interested in learning more about car setup and so on, get a weber carb and start researching how to diy tune it... there are many weber carb user around, but those who knows in and out of the carb vr hard to find adi....

if u planning to get a weber carb, take it as a hobby... first few months of tuning might frustrate u abit (or mayb alot), but end result will be satisfying.... besides, weber carbs are old skool... the value wont depreciate so fast... tongue.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 5 2008, 09:13 PM)
Singchaii@
if i transplant engine,maintain also damn lot. 5k above sure wasted...and then my car is 19 years.u say port/polish?i not dare to do that,it will harm the engine
dun say buy new car.new car body not solid like mine car.do u get wad i mean?
ask pws , steven & yew wing. is our saga body solid? tongue.gif
how about u,bro sky?
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me what??... 19 yrs old car ahh??... do overhaul adi or not??.. weber can stress ur current engine a bit... if still standard engine, better go transplant lah.... icon_rolleyes.gif

ur car is saga c12 chassis rite??... c12 chassis is stronger than current iswara n lmst c11 chassis... but make sure ur car does not have any rust growing inside... rust can cause metal fatigue vr fast.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 5 2008, 09:28 PM)
i do overhaul 3 month ago.
my saga is the old batch 1..year 1989. i got do a anti-rust on my car when i repaint my whole car.but i dunno wad u mean growing inside?inside where?
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when rust growing inside, u can see got pimple start to form underneath ur car paint... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 5 2008, 09:30 PM)
Err.. You do overhaul already or not? I know a member saga already 20 years old, he still doing port and port.. he also like you already convert to 12valve.. If you put weber, also same la.. Scare harm ur engine as well.. Teach you 1 thing la. No need convert anything. Drive slow and steady. Like me.. Look nice, but go slow. Already enough.. Future got money, get a gen 2 cps or waja cps. If rich, go for japan car. haha.
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that sentence cannot trust... whistling.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 5 2008, 09:55 PM)
got black-black thing like black paint,correct anot sky? hmm.gif
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how do i know ler... anti-rust thing i havent research before... my car still new ok... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:23 PM)
how many type o. any picture? nid 2 weber rite?
which weber better?
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not necessary need 2 weber... depends on ur setup...

if u get side-draft carbs, usually u pair them up like this...

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if u get down-draft carbs, usually use as 1 unit like this...

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 5 2008, 10:43 PM)
go here n hav a look
http://www.redlineweber.com/html/Types/mak...ight_choice.htm

it depends on u.. like sifoo said.. dcnf series is more suitable
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yeap... dcnf is more popular around here.... easier to get service parts and suitable jettings... easier for mechanic to tune... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 6 2008, 07:27 AM)
so DCNF is downdraft rite? if we change weber dun nid approve by jpj rite?

1 thing about side draft. where is the air filter?
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yeap... dcnf is downdraft... change weber dun need jpj approval ler....
side draft, air filter at the side lor... but that pic dun have coz usually people use side draft, they use velocity stacks...

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QUOTE(domo_kun @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 AM)
no problem la
ask catacombs to langgar one la
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 6 2008, 01:46 PM)
sent my car for touch up the lips and bumper. Went to Wanauto Spray at Bandar Baru Ampang. Charge me Rm80 then, whole bumper spray. Haha.. Whole bumper and lips only RM80... Spray by malay.. I like malay who do touch up because their workmanship is so smooth...

jeng jeng jeng jeng....
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Sendiri DIY more expensive!
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80bucks only??... wei, next day i come KL i show me the place lar... i go KL spray den come back also cheaper than spray in melaka... doh.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(blasturanus @ Mar 6 2008, 03:22 PM)
any pics showing installation of 1 unit side draft carb? coz my mech pasang my 1 unit sidedraft similar to 1 unit downdraft .hmm..
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like this??... single dcoe...

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also possible... but the problem is fabricating the intake manifold to fit our cylinder head intake side and the single sidedraft carb.... so far i havent seen any such setup in 4gxx engines.... only in older cars such as opel which originally runs with single dcoe....

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 6 2008, 03:48 PM)
haha.. Actually is only the lips only Rm80 and touch up the bumper there.. Hehe...
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how they touch up??... actually my fibre work kena the bumper quite alot... sweat.gif the foreman suggest me spray the whole bumper so i wont see 2 tone color.... doh.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 6 2008, 04:53 PM)
Put the putty then sand lor. But my case, I dun wan putty already. cause when the bumper vibrate, scare the putty will crack. So my case just sand and spray..
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ooo.. i also thought dun wanna put fibre lah... coz if bang anything, the lips can bend downwards without damaging the fibre works... but my lips too much lubang to fill up jor... if dun putty sama dia sure can see lubang lubang... sad.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 6 2008, 07:39 PM)
36 or 40dcnf betta? at ramli there got? but now on ZTH oso susah mau cari dcnf.. hai~
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not sure la... i not sure the intake manifold inlet size is how big... if both sizes match den is the best lor... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Mar 6 2008, 07:47 PM)
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fuhyoo... what car is that??... ohmy.gif

QUOTE(Anthony87 @ Mar 6 2008, 07:59 PM)
who's the others? intro leh..  biggrin.gif
u mean sky?  tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 12:52 AM)
oic.. need to korek more info 1st..
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korek korek korek... rclxms.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 6 2008, 09:51 PM)
my engine timing run liao ............. nid tune again
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where he ran to??... unsure.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 01:18 AM)
i may sound like lingam but im definitely not lingam.. haha
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post Mar 7 2008, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 7 2008, 07:17 AM)
i mean timing abnormal liao now at 1.5k rpm when idle
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use screwdriver tune it back lor...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 10:12 AM)
Floor some more la.. Then will get this...

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apeez's car.... haha... dun play play weh... special thanks to my plugs he achieve 180kmh... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 10:17 AM)
I wont torture my engine until like that. My top speed 70km/h only.Hardly see me drive above 50km/h de.  That picture I stole from other member... haha...
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tipu lah...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 10:20 AM)

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QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:29 AM)
share some of my car picture here,hehe...

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QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 11:54 AM)
u malaccan?
shopping giant izzit?
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post Mar 7 2008, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 7 2008, 01:12 PM)
y u know?    shocking.gif

u malaccan?

i think i better remove my picture    blush.gif
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me aint malacca.... but i know malacca well... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 01:12 PM)
mau yam cha?? haha
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jom jom... bila u balik??.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(XDMonSterZ @ Mar 7 2008, 01:18 PM)
u bang a kids? y got slipper on floor with nobody???
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QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 7 2008, 01:22 PM)

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dunno whose children shoe threw bside pinned under my car    sweat.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 01:44 PM)
For those who ordered gear knob from me, the stock already arrived.. But the problem is, colour not same... Only got 1 red and other is black. I dunno why I order gun metal and it came black and I already message the supplier and waiting his reply. Furthermore, I ordered 6 units, he only gave me 5 units and 1 unit more I dunno where it go..

** seller already called me and if you guy dun like the black, he will change it to us.. But I tested the black on LMST, and it look good too..**
*While allenyip who ordered red, it had no different. Your gear knob already ready to collect**
So now only see you guy want black or not.. And another units gear knob will be ship back and the colour, I havent decide yet. See you guy like black or not.

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Sorry ya. Mistake from supplier... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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fuhyoo... everyone using the same gearknob... geng gearknob nih... i using stock standard gearknob only sial... doh.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 01:46 PM)
im in malacca now lah.. tonite can ar? late nite haha
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tonite ah??.. tomolo la... i ajaked sic moderator mat adi.... and mayb some other guys (if they didnt balik voting).... see how... hehehe... if got tt contact u la... whats ur hp number??...

QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 7 2008, 01:48 PM)
charming sticker,lol...

power ur head lo, lousy car ad
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charming sticker can add 10bhp... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(yewwing @ Mar 7 2008, 01:58 PM)
sifoo sifoo sekalian..want to ask 1 question
can saga install oil pressure gauge?
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can can... as long as u have the sensor... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Mar 7 2008, 05:44 PM)
post pic ler...u sudah jadi fiore wannabe?.. brows.gif  brows.gif
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fiore ketot FTW~!!! rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 7 2008, 06:06 PM)
not fiore la...
only skirting. i just spray my car..malas wan spray the bumper back.lagi pun i wan stay back ori saga whistling.gif
**KONON wan ori** flex.gif
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wah... masuk vr4 skirting adi ahh??.. pic pic pic.... quick...
i also want leh... but dunno match with what color... if plain same color with car body, dont look nice rite??.. unsure.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 06:23 PM)
that gear knob really so nice feel.. haha...
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ori gearknob FTW~!!

today saw my mech's saga.... outside stock standard... inside got AFC-NEO.... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 7 2008, 06:45 PM)
wtf~!! AFC-Neo some more. Can work punya ke or toy saja? =P
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of coz can work ler.... where got AFC-NEO toy selling around town??.. doh.gif

QUOTE(ahseng84 @ Mar 7 2008, 06:53 PM)
1st time i go they stick on my car ad    doh.gif
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lolz... last time i went there also they stick without my permission... after that i went home tear it out adi... laugh.gif

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 7 2008, 06:57 PM)
not vr4 sideskirt..normal 1.
vr4 sideskirt ganas & nice? if the sideskirt i buy not nice can exchange.
i saw the vr4,but like tak ngam my car colour.put black suit anot.white like to ahbeng doh.gif
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jeng jeng jeng

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looks nicer in iswara compare to saga because of the thick door lining.... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Mar 7 2008, 07:23 PM)
AFC NEO siol.. inside the engine bay sure got sum hantu wan.. haha
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inside 4g15 efi only... haha... they play standard engine, dun put monster monster inside.... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Mar 7 2008, 07:45 PM)
AFC NEO ?????????

what is that  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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jeng jeng jeng

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its a piggyback ecu... allows u to remap ur car ecu fuel mapping... has more features compare to previous SAFC units.....
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post Mar 7 2008, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:11 PM)
cool. but our car cant use  cry.gif
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put in injection kit den can use lor.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(andychan @ Mar 7 2008, 11:17 PM)
AFC NEO not a cheap thing is it?
can i install in my car tongue.gif
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not cheap... above rm1k.... thief magnet... icon_idea.gif

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