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[WTA] NEW HONDA CITY?, this year??? 2008 CITY
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Travies
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Aug 19 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 19 2008, 05:26 PM) in view of the global rising fuel price, they might intro the 1.3 ivtec.. price it side by side with the vios J spec.. vios J variant really dissapointing lar... spoilt the imej of vios only, also spoilt the status of S and G variant buyer. toyota kinda follow proton style nowadays, J variant using steel rim... really zzzz dun think honda will follow what toyota did.
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iRonTech
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Aug 19 2008, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 19 2008, 05:26 PM) in view of the global rising fuel price, they might intro the 1.3 ivtec.. price it side by side with the vios J spec..   I don't mind its 1300cc if pricing close to Vios J spec
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badguy03
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Aug 19 2008, 06:51 PM
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How admiring of you guys, seems so free to able to chit chatting on the forum only while i can only reply when free and have no works at office. Haha..
Anyway, Honda's service charge is in fact more expensive than Toyota if you all notice. So, actually there's a slight different between the Honda and Toyota product in term of pricing and optional (cheaper) model for Toyota specially dedicated for economy user, if I'm not mistaken.
But for me, even though Honda services charges will definitely higher, i still unable to resist the attracts from this New City. Soooooo much sporty. Geeez...
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dstl1128
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Aug 19 2008, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Aug 19 2008, 06:27 PM)   I don't mind its 1300cc if pricing close to Vios J spec If 1300cc, the pricing might be like Avanza 1.3L auto. I suppose Vios J is the lowest 1.5L foreign brand.
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N33d
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Aug 19 2008, 06:58 PM
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copy bmw 3 series tailight  i think honda is running out of idea already
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andrekua
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Aug 19 2008, 07:09 PM
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This is the new City?
No regret for urging my mom re-purchase her stolen City then. The rear is a bit like Vios cum Gen2 style and the side resemble a shorter Honda Civic. Maybe Honda trying to capture the market with a more sporty model but I thought City main selling point was it being spacious in the first place. Given the looks of it, I think maybe they decided to sacrifice either the boot or passenger space.
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badguy03
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Aug 19 2008, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 19 2008, 06:58 PM) copy bmw 3 series tailight  i think honda is running out of idea already Hahaha.... it might just be coincident. As the designer is trying so hard to make the side look to be similar shape as Civic, bumper to be look similar type like Accord. The designing option under that 2 condition might just push him to have to design something out quite similar like the BMW. As long as the sporty shape is still acceptable by most people, we might just pity them and accept their design with open arms.  Added on August 19, 2008, 7:15 pmQUOTE(andrekua @ Aug 19 2008, 07:09 PM) This is the new City? No regret for urging my mom re-purchase her stolen City then. The rear is a bit like Vios cum Gen2 style and the side resemble a shorter Honda Civic. Maybe Honda trying to capture the market with a more sporty model but I thought City main selling point was it being spacious in the first place. Given the looks of it, I think maybe they decided to sacrifice either the boot or passenger space. It probably might not come out that way, as you see Vios looked small as well that i thought it's space will be quite small as well. But however it came out that the boot is quite wide and so as the seats too. I means not that bad as expected lar. Agreed? This post has been edited by badguy03: Aug 19 2008, 07:15 PM
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dattebayo
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Aug 19 2008, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 19 2008, 06:58 PM) copy bmw 3 series tailight  i think honda is running out of idea already copy abit nevermind ler... the overall look and feel barulah important
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andrekua
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Aug 19 2008, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(badguy03 @ Aug 19 2008, 07:11 PM) Hahaha.... it might just be coincident. As the designer is trying so hard to make the side look to be similar shape as Civic, bumper to be look similar type like Accord. The designing option under that 2 condition might just push him to have to design something out quite similar like the BMW. As long as the sporty shape is still acceptable by most people, we might just pity them and accept their design with open arms.  Added on August 19, 2008, 7:15 pmIt probably might not come out that way, as you see Vios looked small as well that i thought it's space will be quite small as well. But however it came out that the boot is quite wide and so as the seats too. I means not that bad as expected lar. Agreed?  The new Vios is definately longer although just by a little bit. You dont have to sit inside to feel it. Just look at the space between the driver's seat and rear seat can know already. For example, Im driving the old version Vios. Normally when I fetch 3 in the back, well, still acceptable. But whenever I fetch more, the lack of space is very obvious. Thats why whenever I have to fetch more than 3, I rather drive my mom City. When I goto showroom to test, I usually seat myself in the drivers side and adjust the seat backward till I get my position correct. Then I look back for the leg space. New Vios seem pretty good, probably few inches more but never to the extend of City spaciousness. For someone like me who rarely fetch more than 3, its still ok. Not something I would look for a few years later when I had my kids. Most car have enough space for the front but when it comes to the rear, many still sucks.. including my vios I have to say.
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kevin613
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Aug 19 2008, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Aug 19 2008, 06:27 PM)   I don't mind its 1300cc if pricing close to Vios J spec it might just happen..  speculating that the city will probably start at around 80k with the 1.3 ivtec and max at around 95k for the full spec.. my dad booked civic, then considered downgrading to new city, SA says it'll cost around 90k, but in the end decided to get civic again.. but dunno the civic that my dad will receive in sept/oct will be face lifted version or not..
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elru
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Aug 19 2008, 11:09 PM
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for those who cannot afford civic, i suppose the new city will answer their prayer.
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dstl1128
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Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE New Vios seem pretty good, probably few inches more but never to the extend of City spaciousness. Internal spec have comparative figures that shows new Vios is larger than current City in every direction (with 10mm accuracy) in terms of internal dimension, losing little to Latio. As for external dimension, City is definitely longer than current Vios. However, I'm not surprise Honda will make it win Vios. All Honda need is to have reduced boot space in between 500L~475L, and a slightly larger internal dimension to win Vios in 1.5L category. Coupled with 5spd auto and good price... this will forces Toyota a facelift.
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badguy03
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Aug 19 2008, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM) Internal spec have comparative figures that shows new Vios is larger than current City in every direction (with 10mm accuracy) in terms of internal dimension, losing little to Latio. As for external dimension, City is definitely longer than current Vios. However, I'm not surprise Honda will make it win Vios. All Honda need is to have reduced boot space in between 500L~475L, and a slightly larger internal dimension to win Vios in 1.5L category. Coupled with 5spd auto and good price... this will forces Toyota a facelift.  Hahaha... agreed agreed... But overall, still the sporty "Accord look" of City will definitely beat the "Yaris look" of Vios for sure.. In addition is City's FC has always been better than Vios since the older version which add another credit to City..
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travis_ckf
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Aug 19 2008, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM) Internal spec have comparative figures that shows new Vios is larger than current City in every direction (with 10mm accuracy) in terms of internal dimension, losing little to Latio. As for external dimension, City is definitely longer than current Vios. However, I'm not surprise Honda will make it win Vios. All Honda need is to have reduced boot space in between 500L~475L, and a slightly larger internal dimension to win Vios in 1.5L category. Coupled with 5spd auto and good price... this will forces Toyota a facelift.  Now what matters is the pricing. I bet the new city high spec will cost at 90k++ or 85k++ and quantities for CKD for Honda in Mysia is still limited. So i wont be surprised to see the vios continues to rule the sales charts due to its attractive pricing (spec E n J) and more capacity for its CKD unit. Nevertheless, i attracted on the new city!
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elru
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Aug 19 2008, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 19 2008, 11:11 PM) However, I'm not surprise Honda will make it win Vios. All Honda need is to have reduced boot space in between 500L~475L, and a slightly larger internal dimension to win Vios in 1.5L category. Coupled with 5spd auto and good price... this will forces Toyota a facelift.  maybe they will do a 'sport' edition by slapping in JRD sport kits like skirting, spoiler, etc like nissan latio.
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badguy03
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Aug 20 2008, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Aug 19 2008, 11:28 PM) Now what matters is the pricing. I bet the new city high spec will cost at 90k++ or 85k++ and quantities for CKD for Honda in Mysia is still limited. So i wont be surprised to see the vios continues to rule the sales charts due to its attractive pricing (spec E n J) and more capacity for its CKD unit. Nevertheless, i attracted on the new city! Travis, make sure you take a special album after you got your own new City and post it on your gallery for us to see ohh.. QUOTE(elru @ Aug 19 2008, 11:31 PM) maybe they will do a 'sport' edition by slapping in JRD sport kits like skirting, spoiler, etc like nissan latio. That won't be necessary as Honda always has their own optional special dedicated Modulo kit for the Honda user. In case the user need to have additional skirting, spoiler etc. Current city's modulo kit doesn't looked really nice but the new coming City should be very interesting and attractive to add the modulo kits.  This post has been edited by badguy03: Aug 20 2008, 12:56 AM
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iRonTech
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Aug 20 2008, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 19 2008, 06:51 PM) If 1300cc, the pricing might be like Avanza 1.3L auto. I suppose Vios J is the lowest 1.5L foreign brand. QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 19 2008, 10:45 PM) it might just happen..  speculating that the city will probably start at around 80k with the 1.3 ivtec and max at around 95k for the full spec.. my dad booked civic, then considered downgrading to new city, SA says it'll cost around 90k, but in the end decided to get civic again.. but dunno the civic that my dad will receive in sept/oct will be face lifted version or not..  i'm thinking 1.5 city price will replace current batch..so if they brought in 1.3 version... Rm65k ? QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 19 2008, 06:58 PM) copy bmw 3 series tailight  i think honda is running out of idea already doesn't matter to me, as long stable + good looking
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kevin613
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Aug 20 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Aug 20 2008, 10:58 AM)  i'm thinking 1.5 city price will replace current batch..so if they brought in 1.3 version... Rm65k ? doesn't matter to me, as long stable + good looking if it's 65k, it'll eat into the pie of proton cars.. dun think that will happen.. if really beyond expectation, it'll only go to the 70k region, dun think will go to 60k region.. sounds too good to be true.. haha..
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travis_ckf
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Aug 20 2008, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(badguy03 @ Aug 20 2008, 12:27 AM) Travis, make sure you take a special album after you got your own new City and post it on your gallery for us to see ohh.. That won't be necessary as Honda always has their own optional special dedicated Modulo kit for the Honda user. In case the user need to have additional skirting, spoiler etc. Current city's modulo kit doesn't looked really nice but the new coming City should be very interesting and attractive to add the modulo kits.   Haha, i actually splitting between the gen2 cps or new city. Definery wont go for vios since i kinda sick of toyota soulness cars  QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 20 2008, 11:12 AM) if it's 65k, it'll eat into the pie of proton cars.. dun think that will happen.. if really beyond expectation, it'll only go to the 70k region, dun think will go to 60k region.. sounds too good to be true.. haha.. Unless if honda mysia extending their pagoh plant, there is possibility they will bring the 1.3 CKD to mysia. This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Aug 20 2008, 11:30 AM
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dattebayo
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Aug 20 2008, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Aug 20 2008, 10:58 AM)  i'm thinking 1.5 city price will replace current batch..so if they brought in 1.3 version... Rm65k ? doesn't matter to me, as long stable + good looking 65k for a Honda? Pak Lah kata jangan
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