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 [WTA] NEW HONDA CITY?, this year??? 2008 CITY

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post Oct 18 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Oct 18 2008, 10:31 AM)
And starting next year, Honda will be introducing their new generation of "VTEC" engines to the market, it's called Advanced VTEC or A-VTEC... It will be introduced first on high end Honda models...
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honda alwiz being ahead of technology... i remember honda is the first to name their engine name vtec, by that time, nissan and toyota still have no name for its engine, after that only vvti, dvvt etc come in all car makers.
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post Oct 20 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(sordanny @ Oct 20 2008, 02:31 PM)
*update*

My fren paid deposit and booked this car already. He said the price of this car is rm93,000. He was promised by salesman that car will be delivered in january.
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dun panic, no source prove it's 93k ler... if 93k adding with modulo kit, will be 98k d... hahah nice 1
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post Oct 20 2008, 05:48 PM

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so now who is betting in below 90k, whos betting above 90k?
1 thing i bet is this beauty will be selling like hot cakes after launch no matter in wat price lar..
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post Oct 20 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 20 2008, 10:51 PM)
So its either we all go buy the vios and drive it home but felt something missing then we end up crying all our way to home,

or we all end up driving back the city and ended up smilling all our way to home frm the showroom tongue.gif
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wa, u like ur saying lar hahaha... nice 1 bro
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post Oct 21 2008, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 21 2008, 01:10 AM)
lol takla masa to edit tat spoiler...so i change to this one, with bonus, a babe hehe brows.gif
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so which babe u prefer? hahah !!!
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post Oct 21 2008, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 21 2008, 12:30 PM)
maybe its part of their strategy, its like telling ppl 'hey, vios is still selling good, thats why the long wait.' so typical kaisu malaysian mindset will be, 'oh like tat ah, then i fast fast book vios lo, city also dono wut price and dono wait sampai bila, better take vios now, safer bet'.
the source is from a friend of mine who used to work in the event company tat always handles honda's event like previously the launched of accord and jazz.


Added on October 21, 2008, 12:32 pm

very true nod.gif
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alot of public not even use internet and play forum like us. they not even know the new city is coming out. i think if u go buy city now u have to wait 3 weeks to get the car also.. we all here are crazy about in city 6 months ago lar..

wa 18th discember.. very nice date lar.. see the new city liao then got mood celebrating christmas eve. then new year get new car it's fun rite.
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post Oct 22 2008, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 21 2008, 03:07 PM)
definately haha. launch b4 christmas and get the car b4 chinese new year, i bet time flies within those weeks. hope they have some sort of promotion, erm preferably not the bluetooth like in thailand sweat.gif
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promotion like free 3 year warranty and maintanence and lower interest rate will be good ...
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post Oct 22 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(n73me @ Oct 22 2008, 09:53 AM)
2 trims only ? quite disappointed ..


Added on October 22, 2008, 9:55 am2 trims only ? quite disappointed ..
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2 trim is expected. suitable for malaysia and it's honda style. easier for customer to choose from.


Added on October 22, 2008, 11:47 am
QUOTE(melt @ Oct 22 2008, 11:37 AM)
Can anyone please tell me what the different between the new CIty and the old one? Which one is better?

Sorry I m a nob in cars

Thanks
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new city defintiely alot better than old 1. in term of style, resale value, technology, performance, new engine, new design everything lar..
juz 2 things not that good maybe u prefer the old design rather than this latest design? and it's slightly more expensive than the old city.

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post Oct 22 2008, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 22 2008, 04:47 PM)
5k discount not worth, if 10k and above can consider, but your car value will drop cause the new city launched.. Unless you want to use your car 10 years.
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10k of discount is impossible lar...
haha somwhow u get old city at the end of the year... mean ur city is 2nd generation 08 car...
if u get all new city , is 3rd generation 09 car... alot of different ler.
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post Oct 24 2008, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 24 2008, 02:35 PM)
Actually, I threw the Altis 1.6 as a random spanner. The better options are the Sentra, SX4 Sedan & X20.

Of which, I consider the X20 being the best bang for the buck just based on the stuff you get. The Sentra would also be a good choice as well, but it is a rather old car and should have been retired ages ago but still, there's no denying that there's still good value based on what you get. The SX4 is a good choice as well, and it's CBU Japan too I think.

Altis 1.6 - Is it a better car than the City SV for the price? Let's do a checklist

Bigger than City? +1
5 speed AT? -1
Powerful engine? -1
Paddle shifters? -1
Rear flat foor? +1
Split folding rear seats? -1
Side mirror turn signals? =
Audio player with Ipod/MP3 player link? -1
Fog Lamps? =
Tilt & Telescopic steering? =
Audio switches on steering? -1
Printed Antenna? +1
MID? =
ABS+EBD+BA? =
All round parking sensors? +1
Standard safety features like seat belts blah blah blah? =
Solar & Security Film? +1

Overall, there is a trade off between the SV spec and the 1.6 Altis with the Altis seemingly getting more of  the stick.

1. Does it justify the 10k premium in commands over the SV City? Probably not but it still is a bigger car
2. Is it a more reliable car? Well, the engine has a good track record of being very fuel efficient like the Vios since proven (read: old) technology was used.
3. Would I buy the Altis 1.6 over the City SV? Probably not, the X20 would be a better choice, I just have to live with the probable bad resale value later
4. Is the manufacturing quality better? CBU vs CKD (Thailand vs Malaysia) That's a tough call but the slight advantage goes to Thailand.

Edit for point 1: There's a promotion going on now for 3 year free maintenance (probably just free labor) or 2.88% car loan interest. So that's kind of a deal sweetener I guess. Make sure to read the fine print.
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so shall we support this altis? toyota takes 7 years to develop this type of altis... it's juz like a facelift 1. having old engine, old tech, old interior etc...
at least honda has proved that they take inisiative in RnD ... look at the current generation of city with the incoming city.. u will say 'WOW'
if u see current altis with previous generation of altis , u will say what.... of coz, this altis and city can compare side by side lar... so depends u like which 1? maybe u have to spend another 10-15k if taking the altis.

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post Oct 24 2008, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 24 2008, 06:23 PM)
I DID NOT at any point say that the Altis is a better buy. The list states the advantages and disadvantages of the Altis, and point for point, the City has more to its merit than the 1.6L Altis. I did indicate that if the new City cost 93k with all options in, then a Hyundai x20 or Suzuki SX4 Sedan, or a Nissan Sentra 1.6 would probably be more bang for the buck.

Anyway, bear in mind - this Altis is still a new model although it's more like a facelift in Malaysia. At least for the rest of the world, they get something that's 90% to 100% brand new :/

Some stuff found in new Corollas around the world:

US/China/Japan

New Dual VVT-i engine
5 speed AT option (US only)
Push/start engine option
Sat-nav option
Leather seats and interior option
Moon roof option
Cruise Control option
Rain-sensing wipers
Xenon headlights option (China/Japan only)
Parking cameras
Auto-on/off lights
Bose/JBL Speaker option (US only)
TRD kits (Japan/US only)
CVT (Japan only)
Body kit option

Thailand/Taiwan/Indonesia

Last gen Corolla engine
Push/start engine option
Sat-nav option
Leather seats and interior option
Moon roof option
Cruise Control option
Xenon Headlights option
Rain-sensing wipers
Parking cameras option
Auto-on/off lights
Body kit option

Malaysia

Last gen Corolla engine
Body kit option
Solar & Security film
Nothing else ;(

In short, blame UMW and blame our government for shortchanging us.
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really make me shock lar... haiz UMW is really helpless, gain high profit but do ntg to consumers. G alwiz saying proton is the best only.. what to do, that is the reason nowadays ppl rather buy recon car, such as caldina, estima etc coz our local car is really overprice.
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post Oct 24 2008, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(badguy03 @ Oct 24 2008, 09:05 PM)
Ya lor..  Really OOT very far to india adi.. LOL..
By the way, not sure whether this gen of City will still have the Gear box problem or not as experienced by previous gen of City. I'm somehow being advised by relative for don't take City for the gear box problems.
Need to further investigate to gather fact to convince him. smile.gif
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hehe, new city no more CVT.. i think have no problem. if u wan do reserch on it , maybe u can look at the current jazz review, as jazz and city sharing the same engine.. so it about the same lar..
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post Oct 25 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 25 2008, 06:36 PM)
Waiting for Mugen one... whistling.gif
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those mugen kit in the market is the immitation 1 rite... ??
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post Oct 26 2008, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Oct 26 2008, 06:26 PM)
Finished reading the latest issue of Autocar Asean at Borders today. Good to know Honda is changing the tire brand and giving us Bridgestone now. Luckily it wasn't Goodyear NTC 5. Anyway the reviewed car was grey color and it looks impressive too.
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november issue out in market d?
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post Oct 27 2008, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 26 2008, 11:16 PM)
so its 3.5 out of 5 sweat.gif ya, will get one copy soon. so far we have seen the red ones during the launches and reviews, silver one for the modulo, blue one for the european, grey one in autocar asean, was really hoping to see more of the black ones too.
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i wanna see all color for modulo 1... anyone has the pic? i only saw the silver modulo, wonder black modulo also nice rite?
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post Oct 27 2008, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 27 2008, 12:56 AM)
so far none le, they took the standard silver and equiped it with modulo. maybe i can photoshop it for u lol. but seriously, picture of the black is really rare, i wonder why. maybe not attractive? o ya, you gonna take the full modulo or just the front grille?
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if price at 95k, then modulo adding 5k = 100k already... wow. i topup 12k can get civic d lolz... see how lar. modulo kit is kinda expensive around 5k.
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post Oct 29 2008, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(alvincks @ Oct 27 2008, 09:56 AM)
Hey Guys, in term of interior size, new honda city will bigger compare to Current vios model ?
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size definitely bigger not matter is the dimension or wheelbase or interior space, and heavier alot(more stable), more power, better handling, bigger RIM, 5 speed, new engine, paddle shift etc...


Added on October 29, 2008, 12:13 am
QUOTE(sordanny @ Oct 28 2008, 06:40 PM)
Yes of course!!!!  rclxms.gif
Well no comment on your choice of colour...
Personally I'll go for black interior and exterior!!!!!  thumbup.gif
Went to 2 Honda showrooms yesterday (well it's Depavali!!!! Long weekend!!!  rclxms.gif )
Both SA I met gave conflicting info regarding the new City... But well, u know SA's!!!??????  doh.gif
They could not confirm the price but said it should be under RM90k for the cheapest strip down model...
Car could not be delivered before CNY even with pre-launch booking  doh.gif
One requested for RM2,000 booking fee and another only a mere RM500!!!
Booking fee 100% refundable (if u can wait for at least 1 month in case u decide to cancel)  sweat.gif
No confirmation on launching date, only mentioned Dec this year or Jan next year...

Conclusion :
1) Dun ever trust SA's especially old mans!!!!!!!!! The young SA I met is the one who said RM500 booking fee!!!!!  vmad.gif
2) Wait for the official launch before u place your order!!!!!!!!!!
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Rm 500 booking fee is unofficial 1.
honestly, if take the car after CNY then meaningless d.. after CNy then can wait for the incoming facelift civic lor hehe..

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post Oct 29 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Oct 29 2008, 03:25 PM)
elru, regarding your choice of white color. I agree with you that Honda Malaysia ain't doing it. Just realized all cars manufactured at Melaka plant doesn't come with White. (Correct me if I am wrong)
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i think not only white color, the cobalt blue color will not be offered as well... practically, silver, black, red is for sure.. maybe gold got, the new color of civic 1.

guys, did u all notice the silver color of proton is kinda not the same with the ordinary 1.. really ugly lar proton silver. eg silver persona, perdana.
dun understand what proton doing sometimes...
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post Oct 30 2008, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 30 2008, 11:42 AM)
the dimension of height is also taller, just that they make the car lower. so it appears lower than the previous model as previous model is super tall.
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true, the current model is pretty tall lar(taller alot than civic)... abit like floating somehow... so some ppl putting a skirt at it and it look pretty nice though.. civic no put skirt already low, put skirt make it even lower ... sporty lar ..
i think the incoming city putting skirt bodykit at it will be nice look also... like civic brother haha.. so thinking about the modulo kit how nice ..

today the sun newspaper got the brief news regarding the Mazda3 2010... pretty nice also... can compete with civic and lancer. altis, selphy can be outdated for years d.
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post Oct 30 2008, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Oct 30 2008, 01:23 PM)
Yeah 17" or 16" is just right. Just make sure the rims are light though to save some FC. White body + grey rims =  nod.gif
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17' slightly bigger ler for 1.5cc car.... perhaps 16' with slimmer type will do.

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