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post Jan 12 2011, 02:45 PM

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Any advice for a guy considering changing from condo to a landed property?
My current place is fetching good price, but landed also costing a lot.
But I'm afraid that in the long run, the price appreciation of landed will be more than my condo. Then it'll be harder for me to finance the upgrade.
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post Jan 12 2011, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 12 2011, 04:12 PM)
The price appreciation of landed property will ALWAYS be more than high rise especially if they are on an ISLAND.
Last year 2010 sees a major appreciation for land in Penang Island. A piece of land along Jelutong Road just double up per square foot within 2 years! sweat.gif
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But isn't the current price of landed properties unrealistically high?
I'm afraid of commiting to one only to have the value drop while I continue to service the high loan.
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post Jan 13 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Jan 12 2011, 11:02 PM)
unrealistic oso got ppl buy wor...still transacted every minute..
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People buying doesn't means its always a good thing. In fact, it's the non-stop buying that is causing the price to goes up so much.
I see that most buyers are speculators, just buy buy buy then hope to sell for a good return.
But even when there's more supply than demand, they keep on raising their price to cover for the loan interest.

QUOTE(cyongyong @ Jan 12 2011, 11:59 PM)
How bout selling your current landed and to buy a newly launch landed property and wait for capital appeciation  ?
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Don't have landed property now.
Are you a RE agent? From Penang?
PM me if you are.
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 13 2011, 01:03 PM)
Bro, just in case you dun realised Penang is an island. On this island land is scarcity, beside building on hill slope, many developers are also reclaiming from the sea.
Advice you to visit the E&O development behind Island Plaza. View the houses there plus the new complex - Straits Quay. Do remember the whole area was once the sea. And to think, there are so many willing buyers for an area hit by December 26, 2004 Tsunami.
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I've been to the E&O area... very nice place. Not for a salaryman like me. And I also think that many of the buyers there are not from Penang, or even Malaysia (I could be wrong).
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:25 AM

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Anyone knows what to look for when refurbishing an old house? Leaking roof? What else?
Also, any idea on how much it generally cost for refurbishing?

To cyongyong, thanks for the lookout so far smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Feb 21 2011, 09:33 AM)
leaking roof
reinforce concrete if needed
redo electric wiring and plumbing if more than 10 years already for your own safety
white ant? termite

basically those are hte basic one. Not that expensive, I would say if no reno is needed, only <10k is needed for all the above.
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Really? That seems to be a fair price. But can you go into the details a bit?
Leaking roof: The repair you meant is that they seek out the faulty part of the roof and repair it or replace everything?
Reinforced concrete: How to know if needed?
Wiring, Piping: Again, tear out all the old ones and replaced with new?
Termites: Replace wooden part of the house? Or putting in the preventive measures?

Seems like quite a lot for below 10K....
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post Feb 21 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 21 2011, 10:26 AM)
Initial quotation for renovation are just a ruse to secure the job. Better you get a few quotes with detail spec & scope of the work.
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Which makes things difficult for me.
I'm looking at some pretty old houses right now, need an estimation on how much needed before I can commit to it.
It would be disastrous to purchase an old house only to discover that I cannot finance the repair sad.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 21 2011, 02:45 PM)
How old is old? And which location? For own stay or business/investment?
Budget for purchase & budget for improvements?
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I'm buying for own stay.
The place is in Island Glades. It's an original condition house, with timber flooring.
I have about 100K to fix up the place.

QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 21 2011, 10:50 PM)
I am thinking of getting an apartment or condo for investment purposes in penang island.
After few months of searching and I found that penang condo price are not in the range that I can afford, unless I go for those low cost apartment or low cost flat like BJ Court or some condo in Relau area.

I am just graduated last year and been working for 6 months. How all the sifu here can advise? Thanks. notworthy.gif
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I'm no expert, but perhaps you can look into low cost flat at strategic location. That might offer a good rental yield. Maybe.
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post Feb 22 2011, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Feb 22 2011, 11:01 AM)
If u guys want to invest for rental, I suggest not in Penang. Rental yield here is generally bad compare to the property price.

If for flipping, well u can try at your own risk given the inflated price at this moment.
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Rental yield for landed property has always been bad in Penang. Only slightly higher than apartment/condo.
Rental yield for apartment/condo used to be okay, but not anymore. The price of highrise has increased too much for the rent to cover, much less make a return out of it.


Added on February 22, 2011, 12:33 pm
QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 22 2011, 10:26 AM)
hi there guys. i plan to go to penang to work. would like to as kabout how is the property market in penang at the moment? anything coming up in sungai dua to bayan baru area worth looking into?

plan to invest in a property...
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The places you chose are close to the factories, and are pretty high in demand. I would say a landed property there right now is from 700K to 800K.
For small apartments, I think the price is around 200K to 300K.
Newer apartments > 1000sqf, should be above 350K.

Good time to invest? I don't know.

This post has been edited by xecton: Feb 22 2011, 12:33 PM
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 22 2011, 04:35 PM)
Thinking of shift to KL then for property tongue.gif
Last time wanted to grab D'Piazza at around RM280k but didn't made it. Now mostly RM320k to RM330k. =.=
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Which is what makes me confused about the property value in Penang.
Taking D'Piazza as an example, you have a not so good highrise (my opinion, no offense) at a quite good location.
But majority of the units there empty, and very highly are waiting to be sold.
If the supply is high, then logically the price should be low. But it's not.
I suppose the sellers are able to service the loan, at probably about 1K/month.

Oh, I heard that some are already rented out to foreign cheap labours.

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
hmm.gif
Island Glades dun have house with timber floor upstairs. Maybe you meant the Guan Joo Seng/Japanese Garden area just before the Choong Wah Sec School?

Anyway from that area to Island Glades it is considered Prime area. For own stay just dun get the ones on or whose back is next the houses on the Main Roads - Green Lane, Jalan Besi or Jalan Delima
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I haven't been inside the house yet, but it definately is in Island Glades. Perhaps the agent was mistaken.
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post May 13 2011, 09:10 PM

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never said it's a new house...

 

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