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TSthkhong
post Mar 4 2008, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Anodize @ Mar 4 2008, 11:26 AM)
It is good to see ppl that are interested in honey. but we must be well aware of what kind of bees they are using to get those honey. Are they polluted? we don't know. Are those bees adulterated? We don't know. Here is an attachment of some reports.
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Anyway, i deal with the world largest bee product company. If anyone is interested, i could provide more information. I do not mean any harm to the thread starter. Just thought that i should share things out.
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Dear Anodize

I agree with you that there are a lot of questions left unanswered regarding to honey. Immaterial where the honey comes from or how it is collected and even with the largest bee product company there is no guarantee that the honey is good. If you care to take some time and do your reading, most of the honey obtained in this region belongs to the "apis dorsata" (which is one of the biggest honey bees in the region) and another smaller species which I have forgotten the name. The european bees are mostly apis mellifera which is a smaller breed.

Back to the question whether what kind of bees are used to gather honey.Are they polluted? To my best knowledge I can answer you the following. Most bees do carry some form of mites etc during their lifetime.It is the process of collection that determines whether the honey is good or bad. Of course with sterialisation, and heating honey will be considered good as any impurities or mites will be killed. Commercial suppliers get their honey by going to the farms of big orchards and let their honey bees do the pollination and thus obtain honey. They cannot control the quality of the honey. OK in an orchard farm does the farmer water and spray its crops during flowering etc with peasticides, fungicides. They do. When the bees gather the pollens from the flowers inadvertantly, they will also carry minute amounts of these pesticides with them. So these will also enter into the honey . European honey bees because of winter are more sceptable for diseases and will be more easily polluted. We (or I )can only say that honey is of better quality or lower quality depending on the care honey is collected from the beginning.

Our local honey is collected in the wild and in the first instance there is no pollution of insecticides or pesticides. Because we are in a tropical country, the bees are less subjected to diseases.Even though our local honey is of lower quality I know for a fact it is not polluted.

Dont worry anodize, no harm is done to me. If ppl want to buy honey from other sources, they are always at liberty to do so. If I do not sell the honey, I consume it myself as I do not intend to do big as your supplier does. There are always pros and cons on any subject. So it is up to the readers to decide. Some may find Manuka honey very good, some may find local honey to be as good and some may be con by getting synthetic honey which is artifical honey.

I shall still be posting any interesting articles that I come across. Maybe one may think I am bragging about my sale to Japan. Pl. it is a very small amount but what I was trying to communicate is that they appreciate the honey thats all. I shall take this out from my post tomorrow.

Have a nice day!

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post Mar 4 2008, 02:47 PM

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It is very humble of you to share all this knowledge despite whatever i posted. I believe the reason that those japanese that bought is because you have a very good attitude. I would be very keen to be friend with you. Perhaps we could come out to have a drink someday. Mind to PM me your number?
TSthkhong
post Mar 4 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Anodize @ Mar 4 2008, 02:47 PM)
It is very humble of you to share all this knowledge despite whatever i posted. I believe the reason that those japanese that bought is because you have a very good attitude. I would be very keen to be friend with you. Perhaps we could come out to have a drink someday. Mind to PM me your number?
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Dear Anodize

Why not? We are not enemies but just want to be educated in our little ways. The Japanese were not persuaded by me. I had the pleasure of meeting them on a product that they invented and was being marketed on a very low profile in Malaysia. Something pertaining to water. (Another controversal subject!!! Incredible but I beleive it). Initially I was asked to assist on how to market the product effectively in Malaysia but somehow different wavelengths crossed with the local distributor and I did not come into the picture. But during those 5 days with them accompanying them to Singapore where we had the privileged of being courted by the Singapore Water works board and briefing on their "water". I came out enriched on specific information about water. (I will not delve deeply into this). Towards the end of our relationship, I gave them each a bottle of honey (usual manners with Japanese ). I did not do any selling. Well, the next morning when we were in Pg. his manager asked about the honey and wanted to buy it. I told him he has not even tasted the honey at all and he wanted to buy. But he said his boss knows what he wants. So subsequently, I did sent them some samples and later they made some orders. I posted the exchange of emails in this page is because I wanted to tell ppl like us that outsiders appreciated what we have but we ourselves are not certain about our own product. Of course if you interprete the other way round it seem very pompous of me but it was not intended to be that. That's the reason why I will delete it out.

Honey is a funny thing. I was very sceptical about it in the very beginning until I tried it and it works for me. I had faithfully taken it every morning for the last 5 years and it helps to build up my energy level. The reason why I went on this site was merely to keep myself active. I prefer to COD to everyone as sending by post will cause the honey to spill. I am not against commercial honey, they have their stringent tests but in some of the reports that I had read, there were also wastage and spoilt honey. The only thing we must always keep in mind is how to keep honey in the best environment and of course dont buy synthetic honey. Even good honey when exposed to extreme heat and sunlight will turn the honey toxic and can lead to cancer. This is what I learn from the Prof. from UM. If you are old enough, you will remember that we did not have all these branded honey around but depend on local honey. How it was collected will be much simpler than now. But the effects still remained the same. Well I will stick to local honey and save some of my money for other things.

I do my homework before I do anything and thats the reason why I can answer you promptly. Well in life we must always have the right attitude and by your invitation for a friendship.,haven't I succeeded? Perhaps readers reading to this message can learn something other than honey. One has to be passionate if one need to succeed in anything they do. Do our homework!

Ha! I dont know how to pm you but I will ask my son later.I dont drink, teh tarik will do. Anyone interested can join in of course with OK from aniodize.

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post Mar 4 2008, 06:47 PM

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I have no problem with more friends to join in... What i mean for a drink is teh tarik drink... I seldom go pubs/disco/clubs as my liver had some problem as i had been an excessive drinker last time when i was in JB. Now, my liver is back to normal and i don't intend to damage it again. Where do you live anyway?
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hmmm the color of the honey is very nice, i am no expert in honey, but they said those local honey - are best if they are dark colored ..

most of the honey sold by those claiming that they are wild bees honey are actuall a small portion of honey with tons of sugar, to test it, take some and place on spoon, and heat it, if its real honey it will burn completely, but if in the end there is a lump of goey substance like burned sugar, its actually really burned sugar ...

correct me if i am wrong ...
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post Mar 4 2008, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Mar 4 2008, 08:23 PM)
hmmm the color of the honey is very nice, i am no expert in honey, but they said those local honey - are best if they are dark colored ..

most of the honey sold by those claiming that they are wild bees honey are actuall a small portion of honey with tons of sugar, to test it, take some and place on spoon, and heat it, if its real honey it will burn completely, but if in the end there is a lump of goey substance like burned sugar, its actually really burned sugar ...

correct me if i am wrong ...
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dear earl ku

Please remember honey does contain sugar, fructose and enzymes. So if you burn it, definately they will have the stuff mentioned.


Added on March 4, 2008, 9:59 pm
QUOTE(Anodize @ Mar 4 2008, 06:47 PM)
I have no problem with more friends to join in... What i mean for a drink is teh tarik drink... I seldom go pubs/disco/clubs as my liver had some problem as i had been an excessive drinker last time when i was in JB. Now, my liver is back to normal and i don't intend to damage it again. Where do you live anyway?
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dear anodize

I have pm you. Let me know if you have not received my pm.

Regards.

This post has been edited by thkhong: Mar 4 2008, 09:59 PM
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post Mar 4 2008, 11:23 PM

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hmmm... no pm received.
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:42 PM

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Yup... Received it already.
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post Mar 7 2008, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Anodize @ Mar 5 2008, 09:42 PM)
Yup... Received it already.
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post Mar 8 2008, 03:58 PM

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Just collected 2 bottles from Mr Khong...Really nice seller and willing to share tons of information rclxms.gif

He even rebottled for me in smaller attractive bottles at cost notworthy.gif

Thumbs up to the great seller thumbup.gif
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post Mar 8 2008, 06:52 PM

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yeah.... yesterday went to yam cha with him.... learnt lots of other things rather than just plain honey. nice fella....
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post Mar 8 2008, 09:27 PM

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Raw Honey is obtained from freshly harvested honey combs

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uncle..the honey combs also edible right? if yes, are u selling that also?
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post Mar 9 2008, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(mannster @ Mar 8 2008, 09:27 PM)
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uncle..the honey combs also edible right? if yes, are u selling that also?
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dear Mannster

Honeycombs are the house of the bees and cannot be eaten. It contain mainly wax and they are collected to make candles etc. I do not sell them nor do I sell pollen, royal jelly or propolis. I only sell honey which to me is the cheapest and its nutritional benefits are the same as the rest. Maybe they are slightly more because you need a lot of effort to collect these amounts and so indirectly you pay more.So why pay more if you can get most of the so called nutrients in honey. I need to go to the supermkt. to look at the honeycomb they are selling and will revert to you soon.I shall give you a more detail writeup of my own about honey combs later. Did not sleep until 3am. and still in a daze.

Hope the present info. is useful to you. Do beaqr with me.

Have a Good Day.
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post Mar 16 2008, 03:02 AM

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aww.. i really interested in getting one to try but i am from miri and u dun do post.. well.. gonna miss it..
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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:02 AM)
aww.. i really interested in getting one to try but i am from miri and u dun do post.. well.. gonna miss it..
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Dear Rickysim84

Tks. for the interest. There's always an oportunity. If someone comes over u can contact me. I have posted some articles and if you had read them, they will give you an idea on how to look for honey. Need not nec. get from me. I am just trying to interest you all.

I will keep on posting interesting snips about honey other than selling honey. My next snip will be a sauce made with honey for the housewives. Be on the look out.

Regards.
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post Mar 28 2008, 11:43 AM

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hello mr khong,

I'm fascinated by your post about the honey and its benefits.
My family have being consuming honey dated back when I was very small.
My dad started the dice when my uncle who is a Chinese tabib told my dad to start it due to my bad health.
My mum on the other hand only consumes manuka honey.
Our honey comes from a known Iban friend of my dad. The honey is from the deep jungle of the Kalimantan border.

When I move to PJ due to work, I lost my supply of honey.
At first, my family will post it to me but after a few posts which result in honey spilt and broken glasses and ETC, I stop taking honey as it is very troublesome to my family.
After some times, my family also stop taking honey as they also lost the contact with the supplier.
Now I would like to start taking the honey again.
My dad used to manage the honey as in when to consume and how to see the purity and the storing.
But now I would like to learn it from you as for myself.

Thanks,

Adriel

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QUOTE(adriel_heresy @ Mar 28 2008, 11:43 AM)
hello mr khong,

I'm fascinated by your post about the honey and its benefits.
My family have being consuming honey dated back when I was very small.
My dad started the dice when my uncle who is a Chinese tabib told my dad to start it due to my bad health.
My mum on the other hand only consumes manuka honey.
Our honey comes from a known Iban friend of my dad. The honey is from the deep jungle of the Kalimantan border.

When I move to PJ due to work, I lost my supply of honey.
At first, my family will post it to me but after a few posts which result in honey spilt and broken glasses and ETC, I stop taking honey as it is very troublesome to my family.
After some times, my family also stop taking honey as they also lost the contact with the supplier.
Now I would like to start taking the honey again.
My dad used to manage the honey as in when to consume and how to see the purity and the storing.
But now I would like to learn it from you as for myself.

Thanks,

Adriel
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Dear Adriel

Thk. you for keeping tabs on my articles. Yes with local honey you will have the spillage and broken glasses. the honey is so powerful that sometimes it will explode the contents out. Thats the reason why I had to COD to my buyers and inform them so when I deliver to them. Otherwise they will only half a bottle left . Only those who had used it will experience this.The honey is obtained in Pahang. Again if you had read my earlier postings, it was a Chinese tabib that introduce me to this honey. So I think both of us including your father cannot be wrong that far. Normally I take the honey in the morning before brushing my teeth. I just take a tablespoon and let it slide down my throat without mixing with water. it has improved my energy level and also my heatiness.

If you note I try to post articles that are relevant for information and in no way I try to sell the honey cos it takes someone who has only tried it to beleive its goodness.



I am also learning along the way and with readers encouragement ,I will dig more and share with everyone.
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post Apr 2 2008, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 2 2008, 11:27 AM)
count me in the class too

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Dear Petre

You are welcome anytime. Have dig out an article and in a way it comfirms some of the pointers I had mentioned earlier, eg. children below 2 years should not be given honey etc. I shall be posting that article in a few days time as I had to write acknowledgement to the web page. Since it is for everybodys digection it should be all right as I am not using that information to sell honey.(although every now and then I need your support!! he! he! he!)

regards.
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post Apr 7 2008, 02:09 AM

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hmmmm...... looks like mr khong is very educated and polite....

wakakaka.... i nvr seen seller here replied such long and power information on thier products....

i already message to ur number to order the honey....

hope to hear from u soon....

thanks...

thumbs up and respect!!!

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