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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 11 2008, 03:14 PM) Well, the flea seems quite a lot on Oren especially under his long fur and we found one jumping ohh...   KP   after that baru complete habis. i was wondering at first, kenapa fleas ni di spray tak habis habis. macam ants. then i know they are hiding somewhere in the house. spend alot of RM because of that tiny insect. one cat bring fleas + late attention from owner = fleas home  |
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Jun 11 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 11 2008, 05:02 PM) We only saw one jumping lor cuz masa tu tengah selak-selak his fur... as long as there is no fleas eggs yet. check out google for fleas life cycle. kinda fast. and pray the eggs are on the cat body, so they will died there with the frontline. hopefully the fleas tak bertelur somewhere in your house.Could it be more? Err, Oren goes everywhere in the house... Alamak! Will the flea survive on the carpet or kain-kain?  KP Err, or you mean if I do the treatment at home the fleas will jump to the carpet? |
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Jun 11 2008, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 11 2008, 05:25 PM) Wokey, let's hope the fleas and eggs are just on Oren while the treatment don't worry, with the power of human, they will be gone eheheheheh... naughty mia escape yeeeee.. kesian oren jadi mangsa kena sedut darah manis. mesti fleas pilih badan dia punya lah ehehehehWill update about their vet meeting tmrw. KP |
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Jun 12 2008, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 12 2008, 10:40 AM) Good choice! Syrup type of medicine is it? If pills boleh campur dalam makanan kan. syrup lai senang actually nak bagi. front the side(end) of the lips. vet didnt show demo is it?Let her rest and take good care of her. I hope she'll recover fast from the surgery. ----- Yesterday's visit to the vet resulted with Oren and Mia undergone the Frontline flea treatment. Oren got some antibiotics cuz the doc worries that flea might've carried some infections that caused his to be inactive. Mia's peeing problem could be some bladder infection and is on antibiotics for a week then to go for 2nd round check up... Problem is... Mia does not want to eat the meds...  Even with both of us trying to feed her, we end up getting scratched... She fights off violently. Two days already she has not taken the antibiotics. This morning, I got a huge scratch from her... Will need to go to my doc for check up later if it's too deep or not for treatment. Total paid to the vet was RM77.00 There's a big possibility that I have to turn Mia back to where she came from as we seriously cannot control her and she might not be suitable as an indoor cat We have been trying to keep her because Oren adores her KP so kesian lah Mia kan, i do not blame you. Mia kind of genetic sure do not ready for home pet. Mia is lebih kurang with my Adik sekarang ni. Garang, baran, degil, tak mahu di sentuh. Semua orang ingat I dera dia in first place. but it is genetik. lucky Kakak & Abang tak ada genetik tu. Its very dangerous. Adik should not be breed, else all the litter come with her wild genetic. this normally happen in cattery, this kind of genetic is very important to stop. so make you decision wisely KP, Mia acting like that maybe because she still new to the environment. She still do not get used with everybody in the house. p/s mesti Oren senang hati eheheh, "perrgghh balik juga minah ni, tak larat aku layan baran dia"  |
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Jun 12 2008, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 12 2008, 12:52 PM) I requested syrup for Mia cuz I know I cannot hold her mouth open as big to feed pills. yea getting kitten is better than adult. because you will know kitten behavior better than the adult one.I can't even slip the syringe in her mouth... Nak bukak sikit jer, she bites closed her mouth and bit my finger... All her feets will scratch all over you... Her hind legs can reach your hand holding her head you know... Dapat bagi skit the syrup last night, but she spit everything out bit by bit till the syrup looks like "buih" coming out from her mouth... Mia has been with us for 2 months 2 weeks now. The first month, she is caged and let out for short periods only. During that time, she will always act "baik"... Maybe cuz being caged... After dismantle the cage and let her free roam, she cannot be touched at all... Nak stroke-stroke pun she don't want... Playtime with Oren is okay, but not too much lah... However, Mia does look for Oren when she cannot find him cuz he is cuddling with us on the sofa or in the room... I cannot say Oren does not like Mia, he adores her... I've seen him licking Mia when she sit still for 30 seconds(yes, Mia cannot sit still longer than 30 seconds unless she is sleeping...) I've kept Mia this long because of Oren... But all her aggression when it comes to bathing time and meds time, is really hard... There is not a time that I did not bleed atleast a little during these times... She is not meant for an house cat... She prefers to be on her own in the outdoors... Plus the vet cost for her alone has been more than Oren's... I'm in a dilemma... When we wanted to adopt Mia, I knew she looks wilder than other cats there and we were even advised to choose another cat... But my husband insisted on her due to her color and look... Sighhh... Now see what happened? Baru think that we should've taken a kitten instead  Sighhhhhhh... KP Mia is so similar to Adik. You imagine i have been taking care of Adik the orphan for 1 year + now  imagine the problem you have happened to me for 1 year + already eheheheh.. She is ok with Abang, Kakak, Mya, and Sky. The cats she saw since kitten. but others, not really interested to be friends Adik is a wild lone ranger, i do not have to stroke, play, feed her. She will do all that by her self. Very independent. And the good side of having her, she is the "makcik cleaner" ehehehehe. And the best part, she do not dare to scratch or bite me, maybe she know that i have been milking her since born. Many people want to adopt Adik, but i do not give her out. Due to her extra marvelous behavior (kinda bad one), i do not dare the nightmare come to them, then the next day they leave adik outside. ouch! |
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Jun 12 2008, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 12 2008, 01:26 PM) Also if from kitten, you'll know the health better... Atleast it hasn't been eating any nonsense out there... Adik do not have health problems, among all, she has the less medication fees, only her spayed, vaccine, and deworm. Like Abang, he gone through the bladder stone and kurap, spayed, vaccine and deworm. While kakak, long time ago she fall + vaccine + deworm. So adik is the cheapest with no problem at all although she bring that wild genetic Does Adik have any health problems? Is it easy to bathe her? Even tho lone ranger, but you said she won't scratch you or bite you... She's suppose to be on meds, and I can't get her to take it without being hurt at. I took her for check up and paid for the meds, I wouldn't do that if I don't care, right? I can't help her if she's like this... I feel really bad if having to return her... I'd be labeled as irresponsible... But I can't afford to take up her like this... KP  Bath her is easy, like i mention before, Adik will still obey with me she is not that 100% corrupted lah. how wild she can be with a person so safe her life long time ago.This is the special part of the story, if you get kitten. they know you, you know them better. 365+ days of getting to know each other if im in your place, I will return Mia for good. Its good for you also. Beside, you have don't alot for the help. Take it as a "help" from you to Mia. Its not that you do not want her, but she is suitable for outdoor cat. Not indoor cat. It is not your fault to adopted her in first place, because you do not know her behavior yet. since you are into Indoor pet, i believe Mia is not suitable for you. If you return her will they accept her again? Just remind the owner, don't let other people adopt Mia, just let Mia stay at that owner place. Im afraid, if other people adopt her, and cannot tahan with her, they will just dump Mia at the road side. |
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Jun 12 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(sub_noob @ Jun 12 2008, 01:44 PM) Dont feel so sad.. u can always train her.. I train all my cat and my friend cat too.. Be patient is important.. Deal with naughty behavior and Genetic Behavior is two different things. Naughty behavior you can simply erase this from cat. But Genetic Behavior it takes lots of time even many years, even if you can decrease the bad behavior - it will still be some. If she's pregnant, 70% chances the kitten will have the same genetic behavior with her. So becareful, you do not want 1 wild mom + 5 wild kittens. Dont let her to go out there.. I train my adult cat for almost a year only in the house to keep him stay away from all of bad food.. In the end he seems dont want to eat other than kibbles.. Bathing also important, i make myself free to bath him once a week eventhough he's staying indoor.. So he wont scared of water anymore.. "It run in the family" By the way sub_noob, you are the one that have miscarriage cat right? if yes, do you mind share the story. Like what happen during the miscarriage, whats the first sign, how you cat being acting that time, what happen after that, is the kitten come out? Please share. Added on June 12, 2008, 1:59 pm QUOTE(sub_noob @ Jun 12 2008, 01:44 PM) Dont feel so sad.. u can always train her.. I train all my cat and my friend cat too.. Be patient is important.. Deal with naughty behavior and Genetic Behavior is two different things. Naughty behavior you can simply erase this from cat. But Genetic Behavior it takes lots of time even many years, even if you can decrease the bad behavior - it will still be some. If she's pregnant, 70% chances the kitten will have the same genetic behavior with her. So becareful, you do not want 1 wild mom + 5 wild kittens. Dont let her to go out there.. I train my adult cat for almost a year only in the house to keep him stay away from all of bad food.. In the end he seems dont want to eat other than kibbles.. Bathing also important, i make myself free to bath him once a week eventhough he's staying indoor.. So he wont scared of water anymore.. "It run in the family" By the way sub_noob, you are the one that have miscarriage cat right? if yes, do you mind share the story. Like what happen during the miscarriage, whats the first sign, how you cat being acting that time, what happen after that, is the kitten come out? Please share. This post has been edited by elfreakz: Jun 12 2008, 01:59 PM |
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Jun 12 2008, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 12 2008, 02:01 PM) Ohh, I guess altho she is a loner, but she's obedient to you when it comes to care... Not so hard lah... It is good if you let her go if she keep acting wild in the house, like biting, scratching. Sesuatu yang boleh membawa keburukan kepada you. Behavior problem memang bahaya, not recommended to pregnant women also. Even worst if you have a cat that like to attack at random time. You can fall, or maybe hit other things in the house. Some cat, you see their wild part at 40%, soon or later cat will increase it to more %, this increase is dangerous. while others stick to 40% (example).Also the fact that you bela dari kecik... If anyone can bathe Mia without getting something from her, then terror lah... I don't know if they can accept her back or not cuz she was taken from the street by these people and kept until they can find a home for her... I will have to talk with them, which I am really scared to do If I know anyone who keeps cats outdoor and can take her in, I'd give her to that person... But sadly I don't... I don't know who will take her and what type of owner is suitable for her... so hard lah your problem KP. try to talk to them lah, ask how if the cat you adopt very wild and not suitable for indoor pet.... |
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Jun 12 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 12 2008, 02:21 PM) The scratch this morning quite hurt lah. First time takut and terpikir nak pegi check up. wash the luka clean ya, with dettol.. kuku kucing ni berkuman. bahaya. kalau ada minyak gamat, lagi elok.She doesn't attack at random(I hope she doesn't in the future as well) tapi bila nak handle dia... Grooming, bathing and meds are all my job pulak tu... I will try to talk to them... I think better I go and talk to them personally rather than on the phone... It's a hard situation. Thanks for your advises. KP let us know your decision and discussion with the previous owner ya.  |
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Jun 12 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(annetize @ Jun 12 2008, 04:20 PM) Sigh, one of my kitten is sick. Yesterday went to the doctor and doctor said if i didn't go earlier, he might critical. The doctor give Deworming syrup and yesterday and today the doctor add more water to my kitten. wah u been lots of trouble aren't you? it reminds me like what happened to me long time ago. sick and vet one after another, until all my friends said "my cats bring bad luck to me the owner". yet until now i still have all the cats. And now my friends wonder "how can i survive with such bad luck?"... answer is simple = L to the O to the V to the E. You will do anything if you love and care for something.  *abang brother*just believe one think, you stat something in a hard way, trust me one day it will be easy, and you gain more knowledge from experiences. if i does not happen, you will not be knowing such things exist. p/s dush! dang boom! stupid friends! i wonder if im in trouble, i bet they won't help me anyway, what actually happened to your kitten. the last one died, now left how many? are they all vaccine? what kind of sickness is that? This post has been edited by elfreakz: Jun 12 2008, 05:05 PM |
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Jun 12 2008, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(adioz88 @ Jun 12 2008, 06:00 PM) kucing saya macam demam la uih bab muntah ni jangan main main.sian dia tak aktif dah dah 2 hari muntah tengok kat sini macam musim aja org lain punya kucing pun .. cuma tak kena serentak normal sick (demam biasa) tak melibat kan muntah. muntah ni biasa dari apa yang dia masuk dalam mulut. check on that. Added on June 12, 2008, 7:14 pm QUOTE(abang brother @ Jun 12 2008, 05:36 PM) Not yet tho. Before that, i already plan to vaccine it, after 2-3 days, i saw him very weak!!!!!! kitten which is not vaccine may easily get sickness and disease.Then my bro send the kittie to the vet and the vet said, 'normal cat disease'.. My sis ask me to force feed it. How lor.. that why do not mix kitten who are not vaccine with other out side cat or any cat who never vaccine. high possibility it will effect the new kitten. cat flu can transmit very fast to other cat. disease such as kurap also...transmit very fast. disease like Cat AIDS, FIP, FIV can transmit to any cat with or without vaccine. make sure your environment is clean. dont let the out side cat come to your cat easily. out door stuff is dirtier than inside the house, so no point cleaning the house. so take care the mother cat with you said pregnant. please don't let "dying" become something normal. its lives... This post has been edited by elfreakz: Jun 12 2008, 07:14 PM |
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Jun 12 2008, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(adioz88 @ Jun 12 2008, 08:25 PM) thanks yea she's not feeling well right. put some "kain" yang tak di pakai. Supaya dia tak sejuk. Give more fresh water from filter tab. Water is important now. Normally they won't eat at this time. good luck.my cat dok dalam cage skrg lepas luar pun dia tak mau main sgt dah |
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Jun 12 2008, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(abang @ Jun 12 2008, 08:51 PM) abang brother: I already place the pregnant mommies in the cage but now they out. I dunno how. uits new ID ke  The little kitten is still weak, can walk but like a drunk. I'm waiting my sis to buy 1kg RC for it too eat. I already made plan to vaccine her siblings first.  You cat dah biasa bebas kan in and out the house, thats why they cannot even stay in a cage ehehehehe. The mommy now is suspected pregnant = is she vaccine? This litter kitten umur berapa ye? I do not think RC will help, since you mention walk like drunk people, i bet the kitten cat even chew hard kibbles with this condition. Offer some wet canned food. Only vaccine the kittens when they are 100% healthy ya, do not vaccine now. vaccine will slow down their body, so if the kitten is sick then inject with vaccine, they can shut down easily. |
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Jun 12 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(abang @ Jun 12 2008, 09:52 PM) abang brother: No la, not new id. My bro's. 4 - 5 months, uhmmm the only way to see the kitten healthy is, how active they are. put them in room temperature, with towel, not cold place. Get ready more water if they do not want to eat. Normally sick kitten won't eat. Tak ada selera. So water is important.Yearp, very bebas. The mommy is not yet vaccinated. Sebab 4-5 hari dia hilang sebab nak buat 'itu'. Litter? 4-5 moths. Ok, now i want to force her to eat. How to know 100% healthy? Added on June 12, 2008, 10:12 pmI've just syringe it with milk. Just for alas perut. I hope shes fine. My maid already lost hope. I scold at her. Damn it!  Added on June 12, 2008, 10:12 pmYah, tomorrow i'm gonna vaccine her bro and sis. Im not sure giving pet milk is ok at the moment. Since milk = diarrhea for some cat. So if they are sick, you give milk, the stomach cannot tahan, and diarrhea will happen. That is the reason why, kitten in the vet will be given plain water drip. they don't use milk right. Like i mention before give soft canned food. Else you take the RC your sister bought, put some plain water and wait till it become soft. Yea if the brother and sister is healthy, its good to vaccine faster, before they get the sick disease. Don't let them disturb the sick kitten now. |
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Jun 12 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(sub_noob @ Jun 12 2008, 11:43 PM) I know genetic behavior hard to erase but its possible right.. because last time ive been feeding stray cat that i saw in front of my house.. After that i straight adopt him/her.. at 1st, its quite hard to train.. always go to the kitchen curi-curi makan.. My mom sure angry.. So, i hide all the food and just let him/her eat only when the time to eat.. i give just enough for them to eat, and after that no more.. morning afternoon evening and night.. that it.. same goes to pee poo.. stray cat sure dunno how to pee poo in the right place.. after eat, relax for a while and i put him/her into the tray.. The only thing that really hard to train is the name, i call also they dont respond.. need to play2 with them for such a long time for them to get the idea that im calling their name.. Behavior Genetic problem is something like, wild attach to human, hissing to human when we want to touch them they hiss and show the teeth, bad temper, very vocal. About the miscarriage, i also cant see the sign that she got the problem, i see the pattern of his tummy keep changing, and she always sitting inside the carrier.. I go check and she seems ok and she went back inside the carrier.. So, straight bring to the vet.. They check and say that something happen in his tummy.. i let them handle for a day and that night they said have to operate coz 2 of the babies already stuck inside a hole at 1st i also dont understand what hole..? They said that his tummy tissue koyak edi on the left side and the babies stuck inside there.. So need to operate.. The kitten 2 weeks old, sure cant survive.. Even i got lots of scratch from fluffy in the process to train her for bathing.. im in melaka.. im sure u r very far from me.. i dunno why, but i enjoy to let my cats bite me.. even its a deep one.. after any bite i will like angry and say..'shuuh, naughty boy/girl.. knock a bit in the head and no bite2' haha.. now fluffy also bite2.. but no harm one.. Fuzzy i adopt him, and really dowan to listen to me.. and also fluffy always bully him.. he no fight at all.. a goos boy but duwan listen to anything.. when i say come mandi, he like already know and run under the bed.. inside the toilet jumping here and there.. patient is the key.. thats all..Loud vocal, hissing and bad temper is very famous. Health Genetic is something like fur problem, inside body organ problem, cacat like 6 fingers, kinked tail, etc. Kinked tail the the famous one, it will run in the family. Curi makan is normal, all cat will have this. Its not genetic, but nature Poo and pee outside litter box is not genetic. Thats the nature. This one sure can train one. Scratching is nature not genetic. |
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Jun 13 2008, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jun 13 2008, 12:14 PM) Why do you say so? what i know the movie "friday the 13th".. and in some country Friday 13th is bad luck.anyway isn't it Happy Friday today  |
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Jun 13 2008, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jun 13 2008, 04:48 PM) Lol, don't trust leh. yo abang, don't forget to update your cat story at mykucing.com ya... so atleast i can follow up your cat family punya story.. selalu sangat confuse (saruk) ehehehehe. |
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Jun 16 2008, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Jun 16 2008, 02:14 PM) Oh dear, sorry for your loss again... agree.. most probably the parents genetic not so good. maybe have sickness.Are they all siblings? If they are, I think they are all unhealthy due to the same reason... Perhaps same disease in the family or bad genetics. Don't feel bad, you've done all you can. For now, try preventing anymore pregnancies among your current cats or even the strays that come by, cuz we don't know of any other of their disease or genetics... We don't want the bad thing to happen again... Take care. KP |
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Jun 17 2008, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Jun 17 2008, 04:33 AM) can we make a home made food for cats? yes you can give home made food for cats. but not all food ya. try google around for "home made food recipes for cats".what cats food can give the cat extra wight ? what food? normally chicken and meat. |
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Jun 17 2008, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(annetize @ Jun 17 2008, 01:52 PM) i read from the royal canin's template that they have some that is especially to help the cat gain weight.. not sure tho true. im only worried if my cat do not want to eat. bring to vet, they will deworm and inject with booster for naik selera makan but i believe there's some vitamin supplement that they sell to help increase selera makan y mahu kucing gemuk gemuk? ahahaha after than, you see got improvement or not. from my experience yes, they are eating more than before. then continue deworm and booster for naik selera makan after 3 months. but remember, make sure you giving them healthy fresh fruit maybe 3 times a week (boil chicken and meat), then daily your kibbles lah, like RC, SP, Iams, Eagle pack, innova evo (best) , orijen (best). |
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