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TSsoulfly
post Jan 22 2008, 07:58 PM, updated 18y ago

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This is just a short review. I'm gonna write a full review somewhere on my blog site or something... I don't know.

I have never come across this motherboard brand before. J&W (www.jwele.com) is a new brand to me, but it really reminds me of Jetway, another China/Taiwan motherboard manufacturer. Actually I was looking for a cheap motherboard replacement for my sister's pc, and came across this motherboard. It's not only a cheap sub-RM200 board, but my eyes quickly "focus-locked" to the solid capacitors around the CPU socket area. I have an instinct that this could probably a new overclocking gem for poor people who can't afford super fancy heat-piped uber cool name fatality or whatsoever motherboard that priced above RM400.

Nice looking box, doesn't look cheap at all.

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The motherboard, looks cheap, but not too cheap... solid caps!!! drool.gif

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The board is bit shorter in width compare to my previous ABIT nF-M2 nView. I plugged in everything and system boots without hiccup. Here's my poorman's setup:

AMD Athlon 64 LE-1620
A pair of 512MB Crucial PC-5300
A 160GB Seagate Barracuda SATA2 harddisk drive
An LG H12N PATA DVD writer
An Enermax FMA 460W ATX v1.3
A Coolermaster HyperTX CPU cooler

An overclocker's "must have" feature: memory tweaking options
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BIOS GPU overclocking option!
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Other foundings:
Max CPU voltage: +0.375V
Max DDR2 voltage: +0.315V

Boots into Windows without problem. Since I was using nForce driver (MCP61s) for the previous setup, there was no need for re-installing new driver. The same goes with my on-board sound and ethernet drivers, they reuse the same Realtek audio and ethernet drivers from my previous ABIT setup.

CPU-Z shows the CPU slightly overclocked and a little overvoltage. My LE-1620
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CPU-Z were unable to identify the motherboard properly, maybe the board missed some ID string.
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Updated the BIOS to the latest one, and attempted overclock.
HT multi: 4x
CPU: 250x12
CPU voltage: default
DDR2: DDR2-800 divider, 5-4-4-10-2T
DDR2 voltage: +0.315

Save and reboot. System shows that CPU is actually running at 252x12, and default voltage is overvolt to around 1.276v~1.288V. DDR2 voltage reading in BIOS is 2.11V.

Attempted SuperPi 32M, but failed. Loosen timing to 5-5-4-10-2T, SuperPi 32M passes!

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This board is overclockable. I give it 7/10 considering its potential and it's price.

Pros:
- solid caps & high quality inductors around cpu socket
- cpu overclocking & memory tweaking options in BIOS
- gpu overclocking
- ample voltage selection
- very cheap price

Cons:
- no Windows-based system monitoring provided by J&W
- memory voltage selection limited to +0.315V (technically 2.15V), not enough for memory loving memory chipsets such as Micron D9GMH/D9GKX
- VID options in SysTool is not supported
- ClockGen wont work
- only 2 DDR2 slots

This post has been edited by soulfly: Jan 22 2008, 10:17 PM
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:46 PM

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so let waiting for their A78GT

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post Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM

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the LCD display at the rear panel is definitely something... is that for error checking?

and they lose the PS/2 mouse for a USB one too
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
the LCD display at the rear panel is definitely something... is that for error checking?

and they lose the PS/2 mouse for a USB one too
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tats is debug light.... rclxms.gif
inside J&W Mobo manual got Debug LED post error explain brows.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
the LCD display at the rear panel is definitely something... is that for error checking?

and they lose the PS/2 mouse for a USB one too
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i thought that PS/2 port can be used on both Mouse and Keyboard...

erm...
about this J&W, i heard this brand like 3 months back, it's in Chinese, i can't understand though, i thought it's just a new motherboard brand... until now... doh.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:16 PM)
i thought that PS/2 port can be used on both Mouse and Keyboard...

erm...
about this J&W, i heard this brand like 3 months back, it's in Chinese, i can't understand though, i thought it's just a new motherboard brand... until now... doh.gif
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J&W, NVCC3 Malaysia 2007
30 Oct, 2007

2007, October the 23th, NVIDIA hold the great NVDIA Channel Conference 3 in Malaysia.

This conference brings together over 150 of our resellers, distributors, system builders and system integrators in one venue to updated the participants on their news, technologies, products and trends in the industry.

The conference is a three day event with presentations, updates and road maps from the NVIDIA team, including networking activities and entertainment. Vice President of J&W - Kenny Wu made an splendid presentation on motherboard technology growth trend, obtaining huge repercussion in the event. Our mainstream products built with NDIVIA precise chipsets are giving prominence.

The conference make meeting a large number of relevant industry players at one location possible, we seize this chance to procure valuable contacts and to initiate new business opportunities.


Picture of attendees from the indutrial:
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Show room featuring our Vice President - Kenny Wu:
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J&W's NVIDIA Series motherboards showed in the venue:

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post Jan 22 2008, 11:31 PM

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Bro soulfly, does the mobo comes with onboard vga ?

Owh noticed that u mentioned about nForce driver. What onboard vga it uses ?

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:16 PM)
i thought that PS/2 port can be used on both Mouse and Keyboard...

erm...
about this J&W, i heard this brand like 3 months back, it's in Chinese, i can't understand though, i thought it's just a new motherboard brand... until now... doh.gif
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their stuffs look cheap but promising, a bit different than if looking at Jetway products. product listing on the site is also still quite new and not complete.

but it wouldn't be so surprising if it's a restructured Jetway.

by the way, the board I've got has different colour scheme than the one shown on the website.
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post Jan 24 2008, 05:14 AM

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nice review bro smile.gif

possible to get a higher resolution pic or a better pic of the capacitors from overhead view and side view left and right?

they looks like solid caps, but they smell like aluminum wrapped electrolytic caps
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nice, fujitsu polymer caps aka solid biggrin.gif
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Guess it's time to persuade my dad to throw away the NF-M2S and get this for his LE-1600...then might be able to push the LE to the max...
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J&W RS780UVD brows.gif
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174620
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post Jan 26 2008, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 24 2008, 05:14 AM)
nice review bro smile.gif

possible to get a higher resolution pic or a better pic of the capacitors from overhead view and side view left and right?

they looks like solid caps, but they smell like aluminum wrapped electrolytic caps
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what do you mean by aluminum wrapped?
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jan 26 2008, 01:22 PM)
what do you mean by aluminum wrapped?
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normal capacitor, but wrapped with aluminium to make it look like solid capacitors

just like those cheapo fake NiMH AA batteries in lelong... which are just normal NiCD AA batteries.
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i see..ok..thanks for the info..time to make some wrapped solid caps..hehe
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 26 2008, 11:03 AM)
where did u get this brand in malaysia?? interested with RS780UVD!! this board is a perfect match to replace my aging system. Or does amd have any plan to use the chipset in their laptop? for sure will tapau intel graphic kaw kaw!!
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wow i like concept of 780G make it hybrid crossfire which can pair HD3200 and pci-e 3450 or 3470
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post Jan 28 2008, 11:06 AM

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bro can share Ur bios setting... just bought yesterday.. and LE-1620
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the 780G got builtin ram or not.. sure good for budget hybrid gpu..
if got firewire somemore sure perfect for htpc..

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