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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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utellme
post Feb 2 2008, 11:46 AM

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I'm not DIY guy, else I also get 1 set from u. how about the op627 any bulk?
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post Feb 3 2008, 12:43 AM

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look like everyone interested in op627 upgrade, very confuse now doh.gif , I think i just wait for my zero arrive 1st, maybe I like the sound leh..
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post Feb 14 2008, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Feb 14 2008, 04:21 PM)
For 1 socket (based on USD1 = RM3.25),
1 unit of browndog adapter (RM6) + 2 units of OPA627AP (2XUSD14X3.25) ~~ RM97

So 3 sockets = RM97X 3 = Rm291...haha...over half of the DAC price liao.. tongue.gif
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I only hope zero DAC sound qlty suit my hearing. Top up another 3 sockets (RM300) into zero DAC, slightly expensive to me. sad.gif
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post Feb 19 2008, 03:44 PM

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aiyo, really hope to see my zero arrive this weekend lah..
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post Feb 22 2008, 12:11 PM

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is opa627 come with browndog? , I might get from you when I get my ZERO soon.
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post Feb 26 2008, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Feb 25 2008, 10:47 PM)
LOL I agree with mADmAN bro, A-B is important tongue.gif

Anyway, here is the latest update about the stock:

The supplier just sent it out today morning and it may reach the logistic company by Wednesday. So Thursday, the ZEROs will say bye bye to China and sleeping nicely until they say Hi to our Malaysia friends smile.gif
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Thanks for the update.
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post Mar 19 2008, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Mar 18 2008, 08:40 PM)
Daily update: The ZEROs still at the Kastam there, heard from the logistic representative that high chance it cant reach by Thursday due to Kastam's high traffic volume, let's see how it's going to be!

Anyway my supplier send me a great news, he's shipping me along some decent Choseal brand 4N OFC interconnect as freebies, hope that it's performance is up to par with Canare's , so guys please choose one, RCA-RCA or RCA-mini?
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I'll prefer RCA-RCA, Thx

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post Mar 28 2008, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 28 2008, 10:09 PM)
By the way, are u coming with the free cable ?? Is it too late to change the RCA to mini ?
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South City plaza, Mentari Sunway or any KL, Subang and PJ place are fine for me. COD after 2:30 pm will be superb.
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post Mar 29 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(stormspider @ Mar 29 2008, 09:34 AM)
I have no problems with KL Sentral or any of the places that GodLuvSxS mentioned.,
3pm is ok with me  rclxms.gif

If like madman says want to meet up earlier also no problem... Can get
the opportunity to meet  up and get to know new friends and discuss how next to
empty our wallets...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

PS: GodLuvSxS if you don't have transport on Sunday, you can actually let me know,
I can give you a ride from Ampang Park or Bank of China and help you transport the ZEROes
to KL Sentral... caused it should be quite heavy and troublesome to carry so much things
by yourself to KL Sentral...  hmm.gif
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KL Sentral Sunday 3pm is fine to me, what about location ? Mcdonald?/Starbuck?,

GodLuvSXS : If Ampang Park or Bank of China or your girl place is much convenient to you, then I can COD there as well.
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post Mar 30 2008, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Mar 30 2008, 01:13 AM)
I will bring along the power source adaptor. Anyway another "attraction" for Bro mADmAN to attend, I got one extra LME49720, attractive? Emm ... I would like to have a cup of Caramel Macchiato and the LME49720 is yours tongue.gif
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GodLuvSxs, can I COD with you slightly early at Ampang area ard 10:00-11:00 AM, Maybe Bank Of China or Ampang Park or any place the convenient to you. I need to childcare my two kids as my wife going back to home town for "ChingMin" and properly not able to reach home before 2:30pm.
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post Mar 30 2008, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 30 2008, 07:04 PM)
Finally COD with Godluvsxs at KL Sentral. nice seller with a lot of freebies.

My setup

Sony DVD player NS76H -> Zero -> Soundstage 1.5 -> KEF Cresta 10

1st hour burn in, very shiok. test with Janis Ian, breaking silence and Guess u had to be there.. now  can hear the bass and mid better. Improve soundstge. Bass is punchy, but is a bit stretch causing boominess at certain frequency.

next fourplay chant (pa pa pa ra pa pa ra papapapapa),andy Mckee art of motion,  and NAIM test CD

Now the bass and instrument and high are begining to shine. as if the hidden instrument begin to uncover itself.

next come the women voices III, jennifer wernes, rebecca pidgeon, alison krauss. The vocal is more true, the speaker is disappearing more and more (but still there)

wait for next 24 hours.

really worth the investment and wait
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Finally met with Godluvsxs today and COD at Bank OF China.

Just tried out for two hours, I think Zero need at least 10-15 break hrs, b4 you can feel the real musical sound from Zero.

Hi Guy, can someone show me some picture of the LM49720 installation. TIA
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post Mar 31 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 31 2008, 12:16 AM)
1 review only so far????

cmon people..post up ur initial impressions la.......
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The Zero need more times to burn in, I Reckon.
The reason I bought this Zero, mainly due to my two spare DVD players and I've plan to pair with my old DVD player as below
Samsung DVDP Or Toshiba DVDP -> Zero -> 13 yrs old Harmon Kardon AVR35 and my currently dedicated set is Marantz CD63 + NAD 320Bee.

Just tested two hours this evening, I reckon the music produced from Zero abit slow compared to CD63. CD63 much crispy, forward and detail sound, but a bit bright sound and also produce minor cripping when it's play those high b**** music. overall, it's not fair comparison - CD63 is direct RCA out and Samsung DVDP + Zero is Optical. I hv not try out to use Zero as preAmp pairing with the NAD 320Bee yet, anyway this my last option as I still think the Zero can pair well with my DVDP after sufficient hour burn in.







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post Mar 31 2008, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Mar 31 2008, 11:51 AM)
Ya...For those who brought the adapter +opamp627ap. Please dun swap it out with original yet...familiar with the original opamp, then after some time swap it with better opamp..BANG!!! U will sure notice the difference and improvement. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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My main Zero purchase objective solely acted as DAC for my two old DVDP. but from the MadMan comments early, there isn't much sound improvement so I rather stay on to the original stock for the time being. Anyway can anyone guide or show me on the LM49720 installation.
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post Mar 31 2008, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 31 2008, 01:15 PM)
look at the LM49720. notice that 1 side has a notch or a circle on it?

next remove the opamp u wanna replace.... look at the socket... notice the socket has a notch on it as well??

make sure the notch/ circle on the opamp matches the socket. plug it in and ur done
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Hi MadMan, I'm electronic illiterate old guy, can shoot some picture for me here, so that I can start DIY once the Zero burnt in enough. I'm only interested on DAC section and I seldom listen music on my PC, hence headAmp is not important for me. current stock, bass a bit weak and vocal a bit soft. wonder how much improvement with the LM49720 replacement.
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(dark_evilz @ Mar 31 2008, 03:04 PM)
haven't try my dac yet... still haven't buy the power plug converter...
since this thing is from china, do i have to worried bout the volt... it can be plug directly to malaysian 220~240v switch right?
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No worry, just use plug in. or u can use the normal computer power cable .
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post Apr 1 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(BSOD @ Mar 31 2008, 09:35 PM)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/prelude-...617/index3.html
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/just-not...general-306913/
Somes prefer LT1361 over LT1469 and LT1364. rolleyes.gif But again, it's very subjective. nod.gif

Currently no money for Zero. doh.gif But I do have 2 brand new LT1361 lying down somewhere inside my room. brows.gif

p/s: It's prelude btw. tongue.gif
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Form the link, it seems that people tend to hv different opinion of the opamp swapping and there is no right or wrong, as it's very much matter of individual musical preference. but I don't mind to try out LT1364 just for RM20 if GodLuvSXS can get that for us.
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post Apr 2 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Apr 2 2008, 01:38 PM)
Zero burn in currently around 30 hours. Might start rolling earlier tongue.gif

Here's the op-amps I have
LT1361
LT1364
LT1057
LT1469
OPA627
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From the link,

DAC / Amp :

LT1364 + LT1469 DAC=great, phone=great

LT1364 + LT1361 DAC=great, phone=great

LT1364 + LT1057 DAC=great, phone=good

LT1469 + LT1364 DAC=good, phone =good

LT1469 + LT1361 DAC=great, phone=great

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post Apr 3 2008, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Apr 2 2008, 11:07 AM)
Well, actually I'm pondering whether to get LT1361 or LT1364, the LT1469 should be ruled out cos it sounds quite bright compare to those two, maybe I pay bro BSOD to ship over one of this LT1361 to bro Kwekeugene do a A-B review since he got the LT1364, maybe he would get poisoned biggrin.gif Last time I seen one review between OPA2111 and LT1364, the LT1364 comes out as a more all round performer, I think it's quality should be around OPA627 lvl biggrin.gif

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- Reviewed with Sennheiser headphone, I guess I'm more on LT1364 cos I love balance sound cool2.gif

Anyway, a notice to all interested audiophile: THE SECOND BULK KICKS START!!! Please proceed to counter get yours! cool.gif
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GodLuvSXS, if you can help us to get LT1364, LT1361 Or LT1469 then it will be good.


Added on April 3, 2008, 8:19 pm
QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Mar 18 2008, 10:13 PM)
I saw this return address at the back of my LT package. It looks like they are the local distributors for LT in Malaysia. Here's the info...

WesCal Electronics Sdn Bhd
Tel : 03-78778175
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Look like this CO is located in leisure comm square, in PJ.
If they have stock Lt1364 , LT1469 or LT1361 then it will be handy.



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post Apr 4 2008, 10:34 AM

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after 5 days - almost accumulated 15 hrs burnt in, currently my setting is
1. Marantz CD63SE (MaxCable - Optical) ---> ZERO (DAC-only) ---> NAD320Bee ---> Cambridge SoundWork (Passive Woofer) + Mission 771E spk.
2. Samsung S128 (DIY - Canare Crump plug + Belden 1694A ) ----> ZERO (DAC-only) ---> Harmon Kardon AVR 35 ---> Mission 773E spk.

I really like the 1st setting, it really bring out very clear and sweet sound from the my Mission spks.


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post Apr 4 2008, 02:18 PM

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I'm just scare, I will be disappointted after swap in the expensive 3 set opa627. sad.gif prior to this Zero, both my marantz CD and Mission spks are good in vocal but leaking a bit bass, that is why, I used passive wf. anyway, the stock opamp did really add in some tube amp sensation which is amazing to me.

I'll wrote wescal(KL) to ask about LT1364 and Lt1361 and hope they will come back to me. Since its cheap not harm trying mah, is still not satisfy then try opa627 in the DAC section.

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