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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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Andiboi
post Feb 3 2008, 10:28 PM

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am i too late anyway?
can i still proceed my order?..
1 X Adapter + 2 X OPA627AP
Andiboi
post Mar 28 2008, 08:23 PM

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nearby mentari shop lot(nearby taylors pj); shell petrol station..
spacious space there for cod plus sunday less people went there..

Andiboi
post Mar 30 2008, 12:01 AM

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hey steve,
did u get my pm anyway?
i been pming you since, but have no reply from you..
a little bit of curious, have you received my message?
Andiboi
post Apr 2 2008, 09:41 PM

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one question, where u guys buy opamp from?
hmmm?
Andiboi
post Apr 4 2008, 08:23 PM

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i used pc as my source..
my pc doesn't have the spdif connection so i used the convertor which i purchased from godluv as well.. my setup is like this: pc -> usb to spdif convertor -> zero dac -> ms-1
i been burning my zero for around 2 to 3 days.
i found out that, i am really really disappointed with the sound.. background noise is so obviously and i am using wma lossless which all from cd audio converted it. or i used audio cd to test as well.. background noise is real loud, overall high/mid/bass so "bad", cant reveal the feeling of that music.. so "digital"..
can anyone tell me what's wrong? is the converter cause all these problem or i need not used pc as source.. should i get a reliable cd player?.. or headphone problem? surprisingly setup of zune 30gb -> visely amp -> ms-1 is "FAR" better than the dac setup i mentioned above..

hmmmmm??
Andiboi
post Apr 4 2008, 10:31 PM

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hmm?..
let's forget about the noise issue.. what is your review with oem opamp and the setup that same as mine..
my short review after listen these few days, listen to like old vocal chinese song, the song is quite acceptable but the high doesn't shine, mid is weak and mostly covered by bass. listen to rock music, *shake head* channel separation is bad, when to the part that every instruments are beating and all i can say "bising" and not enjoying the music.
as conclusion: i am compromised with the sq, not the sq compromised me. a good sound quality doesn't need to be compromised.

now saving money for marantz cd5001 cd player and try to pair with this dac.

Opamps? i wonder where can i find it? my area is at petaling jaya/subang/sunway pyramid.

Thanks

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post Apr 4 2008, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Apr 4 2008, 10:54 PM)
The stock opamp tends to be sound tubey, the high certainly doesnt shine while mid and bass certainly more dominating, i guess the OPA family opamp certainly not your cup of tea, try the LME49720 I provided along, please do give the ZERO a chance before classify it as an "you compromised" unit, the LME49720 sounds more detail, fast and bass is tight. Maybe you anticipate a RM4k worth of sound in this RM400 unit, i guess that's why you are disappointed biggrin.gif
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one question: do i need to burn in the opamp? i mean if i change the opamp, do i need to burn in again? cause i change to lme49720, and spending few hours to play around the opamp rolling thing(kinda fun), i even put the opa2604 to head amp or the ne5532 to dac.. hahhaa... anyway between lme49720 and opa2604, i found that opa2604 is better than lme49720. cause at same volume which is quite loud, lme49720 hurt my ear and i turn the volume down and for some reason it still hurt my ear. if the answer of my question is yes, how long do i need to burn in the opamp?
i tried put the lme49720 to dac and opa2604 to head amp, i found that at the beginning of the song(i was like WOW, really nice), after awhile i found out that it sound getting worst at the middle of the song.. lol, i wonder why?


steve, i would like have lt1469,lt1364 and lt1361 opamps.
i getting addicted by playing opamps rolling stuff.

"third times of asking: i wish someone could tell me where to buy opamps beside online?"

Thanks smile.gif

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Andiboi
post Apr 4 2008, 11:53 PM

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opa627 + browndog is way too expensive. >.<!
RM100 if i'm not mistaken.

Andiboi
post Apr 6 2008, 02:12 AM

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LT1364 x2
LT1361 x2
LT1469 x2

steve, count me in to the opamps bulk. smile.gif thanks.
Andiboi
post Apr 7 2008, 12:25 AM

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ok, i have to start apologize my previous statement or feedback.

Today i spent 3 to 4 hours listening music(playing computer in the same time), i found out that what i listen is totally different to what i listen few days back. Everything is improved than b4, i never believe the term of "Burn-in" back then. Lol. I didn't know it can be such big different(HUGE) before burn-in and after burn-in. I really enjoy listening right now and haven't change any opamp yet(it's still all stock/oem). What i like now is the bass become more live and deep, voice become neutral than before, mid is clear and balance. Overall, it served me real well now. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 7 2008, 11:49 PM

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i faced this problem too.. i assumed that transferring signal from pc to dac isn't smooth or fast. i don know how tosay in the right way, but only agak agak say one..
cause when you open the DAC case, u can see the optical light. once it transferring the signal from pc(when i press Play in window media player), it light up(red light at the optical part there).. when it light up, the few sec(mostly half to 1 second) something like warming up(crack sound or weird sound or scary sound) then it start singing after that.

hmmm correct me if i'm wrong.

Andiboi
post Apr 11 2008, 10:40 PM

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other than that, i found out that my hometown isn't in kl and i back to my hometown frequently. I wonder how i bring such bulky thing around each time i travel back sabah or kl? shocking.gif
Overall is good by performance/price ratio. The dac section performs quite good, only the headamp section(the opamps from headamp definitely need to be changes) drawback. nod.gif

I try dac section rca out to my visely hea-1, the sound quality improve a lot and got "the Feel back from music". rclxm9.gif




This post has been edited by Andiboi: Apr 11 2008, 10:46 PM

 

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