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SKY 1809
post Jul 30 2008, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jul 30 2008, 10:39 AM)
If your computer got either SPDIF out or coaxial out, then you could connect the DAC through one of these connection.

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NOTE: Red circled is Coaxial, Yellow circled is SPDIF
If your computer dont have these interface, then you could get a USB to SPDIF converter. Plug the USB cable from your com to this device then link the spdif cable with this device and DAC. Then it sings biggrin.gif
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Hi,

How much a coaxial cable costs ? A value for money one. Where to buy ?

I saw someone trying to sell a used one for more than RM 600, costs more than zero dac.

Mind to share.

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post Jul 30 2008, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jul 30 2008, 12:37 PM)
damn im itchy...im totally poison by tht tube....

but i cant use any money now doh.gif  anyway dont have a proper place to listen music yet

hope they still bring in when im ready biggrin.gif
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Yes, this thread is very poisonous, You need to have the will power to overcome.

Zero Dac is just the beginning of the journey [ searching for a better sound ] , and not the end yet.

Later, the power cords, tubes, interconnects, speaker wires , tube amps, cdp, speakers, moldings. It goes round and round.

It is going to burn a big hole in your pocket, be ready for it.

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post Jul 30 2008, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jul 30 2008, 01:08 PM)
my system falls into low to mid section

the weakest point is the cdp, so thinking of adding a nice dac to it, thts the 1st baby step i guess tongue.gif

others i dont dare to seelor...if really wana upgrade, each item will be few k... sweat.gif
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Everybody says the same thing , when he/she takes the small baby step. Some would say this would be their LAST TIME TO UPGRADE ( say only ).


Added on July 30, 2008, 1:29 pm
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jul 30 2008, 01:14 PM)
RM600 for coaxial cable is kinda overkill to me. Last time I seen some seasoned audiophile recommend only to spend 10 - 15% max of your total budget on cables. Let say u wanna spent RM4000 on setup, so speaker cable + interconnect budget should be around RM400 - RM600 tops biggrin.gif
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My interconnect and speaker cables combined , are exceeding the 10% limit.

Maybe I should get a Jalan Pasar one this time.


Anyway, thank you for your reply.

P/S : Why don't you sell multi products like Tong Lee or CMY, instead of zero dac standalone.

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post Aug 3 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 3 2008, 10:58 PM)
We really miss your unit. All we try was a new unit, which is my unit. The new unit sound a bit harsh, need burn in. Now my unit end up with SKY 1809. Hope all owner report in and madmen can update the owner list.

I have been talking to the designer of HDAM, and he is very helpful..

This is the final part of mystery (I dunno how to upload all picture)
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Quite busy with some paperworks tonight.

I intend to pair with my 2 very old cdps ( more than 10 years cost 1k n 3k ), I hope to add value to these cdps.

Do you use the pre amp button ? Sorry no time to read the whole thread. Still rushing the paperworks .

I like the volume control whereby the output could be controlled to cut down the brightness of sound. Signature does change from original cd player.

Still need time to run in. Seems to work well with silver interconnect.

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post Aug 4 2008, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 4 2008, 12:35 AM)
All I can after rolling the opamp, I still think the DY2000 gives the most forward vocal, and best of all, smooth. Hope to hear some DY2000 owners report.
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Hi Chua,

Mind to share where to get the DY 2000, vocal is my liking.

Hope to get one before investing in good tubes .



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post Aug 15 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Aug 15 2008, 01:34 PM)
Hi there, no soldering needed, just connect the wire smile.gif

UPDATE : Ok guys, i'm here to bring great news for you guys, the producer offer us buy either buy 1 "SUN" free 1 "EARTH" or buy 1 "EARTH" free 1 "EARTH". EARTH is more for vocal while SUN is more for classical, have your choice ... those wanna get "EARTH" pair, please contact your partner then approach me biggrin.gif IMHO it's best to get "SUN" and "EARTH" pair, cos you cant predict your future setup and your future music taste, and I cant promise any more same production in the future cos the producer seems to develop a habit discontinue the model once it's been there for long smile.gif Make your wise choice.
Latest Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"
RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"
Anyone who want to change their order, please let me know smile.gif Thanks biggrin.gif
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HI,

I want to order the followings:-

RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"


Can the TS do the distribution for us, bcos we are from diff location if we share ? Sun and earth problem.

Paired with Kyl3 .

PM when i need to make the payment.

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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Aug 15 2008, 05:19 PM)
Anyone interested to share with me?
I think I'll go for the earth.
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BTW, which LT1364 should I get for the preamp section? LT1364CN8#PBF, LT1364CS8 or LT1364CS8#PBF?
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ya, would to share earth with you. In that case , i can order earth 1 for 1.

By the way, where are you.

I am from Cheras.

P/S :DEAL DONE. PAIRED WITH YOU.

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post Aug 16 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Aug 16 2008, 05:23 PM)
yup buy 1 free 1 is 100% correct, through mail he said cable is provided but i just sent him a email to double confirm, cos I sent him english while he reply me in Chinese sweat.gif
Update: Abit of bad news for you guys ... seems like communicating in different language really brings out different meaning, those who want extension wire like chua's one you need to top up RM10, it's ok for you guys not to purchase just that your ZERO will be end up "roofless" since the discrete opamp is too tall and you cant close ZERO's steel top cover  sweat.gif Please do update with me your decision, k? sorry for the havoc, I should go and learn to type in chinese soon unsure.gif

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I am just about to e giro the money to you, then put on hold.

RM 10for 2 cables or for one. Shall we pay separately to you ?

I don't mind to pay first, but how are you going to send the items by post by own collection ?

Plse reconfirm, so we can check with our partner..before TT the money to you.

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post Aug 17 2008, 11:09 AM

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PAYMENT DONE. E GIRO UNDER APPROVAL CODE 95595903 TO MAYBANK LEONG CHUN YEN. RM 95 FOR 2 EARTHS WITH 2 CABLES.

ANY FREE STUFF FOR EARLYBIRDS ?

REGARDS FR SKY N KYL3

PM U BUT NO SMS, AVOIDING THE MORNING CALL 2 U.

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 17 2008, 02:24 PM)
no. currently for me I use it on DAC SECTION. The output of DAC section goes to headamp section too, but normally I dont play headphone.

so i dunno how OPA perform at headphone.
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Glad that we have the local R & D team to enhance the quality of zero dac for the benefits of all.

Just wonder there is a zero dac club around ?

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post Aug 28 2008, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 28 2008, 08:15 PM)
Well I have 1 OPA Sun if u want can borrow and test. That will give you better dynamics, more forward vocal and clean.

Trust me, ZERO with OPA will give you a run of your money.
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One thing good and outstanding about this thread is , people like ccschua is unselfishly sharing his knowledge with us.

And also willing to share his hardwares too.

I believe Abel has invested quite a lot to come out with "Zero Dac Version 2."

Keep up with the good works.

May we all say cheers to them all.

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post Aug 30 2008, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(abel @ Aug 29 2008, 11:38 AM)
ermm not a easy job to mod the Zero still studying n dunno start from where. plan to get EARTH or SUN for my CD-Player but still under warranty soo du want to risk it tongue.gif


Added on August 29, 2008, 11:43 am

ermm opa627 character wut u say almost same as mine smile.gif ermm dry i listen that time not very dry different setup come out different sound the 627 is sound clean n abit digital but the bass are good fast n punch i duno y i try few Bur Brown also like that dry sounding only the opa2604 abit better but too laid back music is not alive
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Can mod earth directly to cd player, Abel ?

Mind to share more ?

Your AV amp is powerful, can rock floor stand speakers !

I also got one 150watts per channel power amp made by China ( Assembled for Malaysia company ), about 15kg.

Not bad, it costs me about rm 500 as secondhand. Can drive very big speakers, best suited for AV, but I use for 2 channels HIFI in the hall, driving 4 speakers at a time.

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post Sep 9 2008, 01:14 PM

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I have received my earth, but a bit of confused.

It is short and about the same height as sun ( I borrowed from Mr. Chua before ).

Can someone please enlighten me on how to check ? and it is labeled as earth with a paper sticker , i prefer the one with good vocal . Did I order the wrong thing ?

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post Sep 21 2008, 01:16 AM

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I have not tested my earth yet , now the moon version is out !

Hard time to do the catch up.

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post Oct 5 2008, 05:44 PM

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Zero Dac with Earth does give value to my old timer CDPs that have good built ( but lacking in DAC capability ) a big boost, thus saving me the money to hunt for a new and more expensive CDP.

Moreover, in my opinion the quality of new entry level CDPs are no match than those old timers. Coupled with Zero Dac, my old timer CDPs are given a new lease of life, at acceptable low cost investment ( Proton Saga level ? ).

What am I saying is there is no regret for me to buy a Zero Dac.

The only problem is how to keep tracks of so many moddings going on , for a person with ZERO tech background ( sorry, i am from financial school ) . People here are taking 5 steps a time, I am just happy to take only one step at a time.

What is Output Decoupling ( snipping ) ? can google the term ?

P/S > THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH R & D ON ZERO DAC.

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post Oct 5 2008, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(FiSHjIGN @ Oct 5 2008, 06:48 PM)
Oh, so it's either one or the other? Can't do both together? Too bad. His review of his mod looks really awesome. Haha. But has anyone tried it before?
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The ways you asked questions , give me the impression that your questions are more related to your assignments that you need to do in class, lacking the passion/appreciation for HIFI .

just my 2sen opinion.

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post Oct 5 2008, 09:57 PM

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Why bother to ask questions, then yourself jump to the conclusion before knowing, as if you already have all the answers to yourself.

That sounds like a smart way to ask questions.
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post Oct 5 2008, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(FiSHjIGN @ Oct 5 2008, 10:11 PM)
What?! Since when did i do that? Are you even reading my posts right? You should say that to yourself, "don't jump to conclusions".
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I guess you are right.

Since it OT, so no point to argue further.



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post Oct 6 2008, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 09:56 PM)
Wow ... cool down guys ... just did my cap snip (those cap around the RCA output) yesterday ... to my ears the difference is quite significant, lots more transparency till the level of abit fatigue listening to ...

Anyone of you agrees with me?
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I tried the zero dac/earth with my old Onkyo CDP ( those day cost about 2.5K ) entry player, using SS amplifiers ( pre /power ) and Jamo/JM Lab speakers.

The gain is great, having nice and outstanding vocal , more transparency and more detailed in instruments , though using less expensive QED interconnect this time ( still need time to run in ).

I see zero dac/earth as an enhancement to my system, less as a competitor to my CDP.

Fatigue with Cap Snip? meaning it is anti climax ? So better put on hold , right ?


Added on October 6, 2008, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 10:22 PM)
I think most probably it's the less roll off high frequency, before the cap snip the highs just kinda extend like "dwinnnnn" now become "dinnnnn" Hope u guys know what I meant biggrin.gif

So far anyone one compare the ZERO with discrete opamp with any entry level CDP?
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM)
Emm ... as ccschua mentioned, it's the more extended high makes me feeling abit fatique, before the cap snip the highs were gently roll off ... more easy to me ears, although it doesnt sound accurate biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your reply.

I think i stick to the gentle high ( with roll offs ) , so that i could get some little naps in between the music. hmm.gif

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