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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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post Sep 30 2008, 10:42 PM

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No worry. It is totally safe. the surgeon is a specialist from the shool of HIFI.
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post Oct 1 2008, 12:42 AM

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Well,

more and more people confirm tying the Earth ground wire to RCA earth gives some difference in sound. When u upgrade the RCA, bring out 1 wire from the RCA ground by solder.
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post Oct 1 2008, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Oct 1 2008, 09:09 PM)
Anyone here tried snipping off the caps on the headphone board? I'm afraid the Grado will sound too bright after.

I have Earth in DAC, LT1364 in amp.
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Snipping the cap does not cause your system to sound bright. It just sound more open with higher frequency. Putting in a silver cable will cause bright sound.
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:41 AM

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Hi,

Good to see that. Are u not running Sun as well. I spend quite sometime switching between earth and sun and it is fun.

At first I cant get used to the vocal of OPA Sun. After a while, I sort of get used to it.

The more I listen, the clearer is the difference between sun and Earth.

also try to connect one wire to the RCA Earth by solder. use this ground wire to earth the OPA Earth ground.
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post Oct 2 2008, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Oct 2 2008, 03:23 AM)
I've yet to put on the Sun, love the Earth. Maybe it is placebo but there is a slight hint of more detail after snipping the caps.

Do I need to solder the earth wire to the RCA ground? I don't plan to change the RCA jacks now. Maybe just make a knot?

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The snipping of the caps bring better transparency, lifts a veil that I didn't know was present!
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After I completed the RCA jack, i bring 1 copper wire and directly solder it to the earth pin. no need to remove the board.

for ZERO starters, here is the beginner thread which is informative

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/blogs/curraw...-amplifier.html
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post Oct 3 2008, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(FiSHjIGN @ Oct 3 2008, 12:16 AM)
If i get adventurous enough I might try the whole mod after my A levels biggrin.gif Can't wait for the amp to arrive. Got any ETA? My Sennheisers sitting on the desk doing nothing at the mo sad.gif
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Yes. Mod is fun. After Mod, the ZERO DAC can surprise. it is very interesting about ZERO mod. even small mod can bring quite some improvement.


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post Oct 4 2008, 02:45 PM

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Dont think solder is difficult. It is simple. google the net for some basics of soldering.

On ZERO board, it is sensitive. Dont touch the board for too long.


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post Oct 4 2008, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(eddylws @ Oct 4 2008, 06:00 PM)
Hi,

My advise better get a good soldering station & de-soldering gun, if not will easly spoil the PCB board.

If you affordable get Hackor Sucker (de-soldering tools) is around RM60, Waller soldering station RM240.

Eddy Lim
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wah this one 'noh meng'. u need to have deep pocket.
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post Oct 4 2008, 08:44 PM

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Lucky I dindt kill my board. they are many ways to mod. I am using the proton saga way first. (of course proton saga dont have air bag like mercedez)
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post Oct 5 2008, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(FiSHjIGN @ Oct 5 2008, 12:55 AM)
My bad, when i asked earlier if anyone had done "this mod" before, i posted the wrong link. The link is here. LINK

Now has anyone done THIS mod before?
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That is a different mod than what we had been doing. it deals with output stage, bypassing the opamp and directly couple to the tube.

What we had been doing is to change different OPA such as Earth, Sun and Moon (coming) to give different sound quality. By putting in Earth and snipping the output decoupling cap, ZERO DAC give a big jump in the transparency and detailing and accuracy, rivalled the sound of expensive cdp.


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post Oct 5 2008, 06:14 PM

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To all the ZERO users, pls refer this page for some information regarding ZERO and the mods. It is simple.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/blogs/curraw...-amplifier.html

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post Oct 5 2008, 09:37 PM

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Sometimes expression of opinion is totally a freedom but to express it with strong words is really uncalled for.

Please learn to appreciate the infor already provided in this thread.
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post Oct 5 2008, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 09:56 PM)
Wow ... cool down guys ... just did my cap snip (those cap around the RCA output) yesterday ... to my ears the difference is quite significant, lots more transparency till the level of abit fatigue listening to ...

Anyone of you agrees with me?
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are u using headphone, if so, extra 2 cap need to be snipped around the headphone opamp.

On my system, I dont really feel if it sounds harsh but it avoid the high frequency being roll off and hence more details. The sound harsh is coming from the vocals, and vocals lies in the frequency range of 2000 Hz.

Perhaps yr gear in the chain has something to be improved or the recording is like that.

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post Oct 6 2008, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jcvendetta @ Oct 6 2008, 05:35 AM)
Hello everyone,
I was looking to upgrade to a nice soundcard (Auzentech 7.1) untill I bumped into this thread. So basically this is something like an external "soundcard" huh? I have optical output from my computer, so when I play movies or music from my PC, it goes like this?

PC-->Optical-->DAC-->Analog-->Speaker (Logitech Z5500).

Does it work like this? What about all those Dolby and DTS sound Movies? Can you get 5.1 surround sound from this DAC? I see the DAC only has 2 output, stereo?
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If u are using PC player, u can switch to stereo out to DAC. If u output 5.1 PCM code to ZERO, it cant lock the signal.

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post Oct 8 2008, 10:24 PM

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Well. to compare whether earth cable make a difference, u are invited on this Friday night.

I would have a modded zero and unmodded zero for test.

pls come.
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post Oct 9 2008, 06:58 PM

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It will be around 9.00pm. Pls bring your ZERO DAC. Madmen is coming with his modded ZERO for comparisons.

Abel can contribute the RCA cable.
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post Oct 10 2008, 07:00 AM

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some cd. headphone. i have the power cord, so its ok.
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post Oct 11 2008, 07:01 PM

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yesterday sleep with lots of noise. It was like 2.00 am in the morning. The modded ZERO has kick ass bass, and plays sentimental music like Jazz a breeze.

Look forward to mod. http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f6/frankenze...85/#post4843415

If it is a long way to go, I guess it is for other DAC.


hi steve,

how is the mass for signal cable. if interested, there is a single crystal from hong kong which is much cheap.er.

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post Oct 13 2008, 11:29 PM

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I had a chance to listen to the cap mod (lots of ELNA, Nichicon, Red German WIMA and silver MICA) of the version 1 ZERO. all I can say about the zero is very nice piece of works.

The transparency become very obvious and I like the way NILS LOFGREN pluck his acoustics, with conviction and weight. The vocal is more natural, meaty and overall it is very musical. Bass has more attack and more control.


1. Diode Bypass (reduce noise)
2. Stability and Noise killing mod for digital section (PS bypass replaced with Silver Mica)
3. Ground loop breaker mod (better caps)
4. More capacitance for the main analog stage, from 4400uF to 6600uF
5. More capacitance for the digital stage with Silmic II parallel, from 2000uF to 2330uF and bypass.
6. Cap replacement on analog output stage

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post Oct 15 2008, 07:30 PM

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I have a OPA earth. Can someone exchange OPA Sun with my Earth.

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