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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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post Aug 7 2008, 12:33 AM

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Hi guys, i just got a reply back from my USB to SPDIF converter supplier, the same brand converter got no more stock and no more in production, so I go source for another brand, and found this:

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USB to Coaxial converter
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why coaxial instead of spdif?
- During short distance signal transmit, coaxial performs better because during the SPDIF's light to electronic conversion, signal conversion may lost.

This converter using CM102 chip and it's digital performance is close to Burr Brown's PCM2902 which renown for it's good USB to digital conversion. Personally I tested the default converter with my PCM2902 based converter before, I would say it's worth the more expensive price smile.gif

Price is RM35, comes with USB cable and coaxial cable and shipped to your doorstep. So for those who didnt request refund for the converter, you could get this with another RM15 topup. or you may choose to refund too, it's up to you guys smile.gif

For those who are interested get one, you may also contact me smile.gif Thanks



Status:
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Terenz_C - ?
Kukarchoon - confirm
RAV4 - confirm
RAV4's friend - confirm
Yehlai - refund
irwan6179 - refund
ccschua - confirm
leshita87 - confirm
tunasandwich - confirm
jackal1983 - confirm
sakuragi01 - confirm

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post Aug 7 2008, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 7 2008, 10:28 AM)
GodLuv, I'm OK with the top up. Will update on my friend when he confirms. When can this unit arrive? Zero now sitting at home coz no time to burn-in. My plan was to leave in office running 24hours via notebook. Thanks.


Added on August 7, 2008, 11:32 amOK, my friend confirm top up RM15. I'll do the RM30 transfer later today. Please let me know when the unit can be shipped. Thanks.
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If I could confirm all order within this week, 2 - 2 1/2 weeks arrival smile.gif

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Aug 7 2008, 11:52 AM)
Does this usb >  coax converter has buffer delay problem or jitters?
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This i gotta check with the supplier, but coaxial is more fun to play with, can play around with different cable to tune the sound biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2008, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 7 2008, 12:38 PM)
what is it for? from PC USB to Zero's coaxial?
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Yup, from PC usb to ZERO's coaxial smile.gif

Anyway I just kicks start ZERO dac 4th bulk smile.gif Anyone who are interested, please proceed to the counter biggrin.gif Now waiting for Chua getting the discrete opamp, see how further ZERO dac could go with those discrete opamp biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2008, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Aug 7 2008, 01:01 PM)
How long need to wait the BULK?
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U mean the dac bulk? Once MOQ fulfilled, around 2 - 3 weeks arrival smile.gif

QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Aug 7 2008, 01:02 PM)
I'm going back to US on saturday 23rd which is 2 1/2 weeks from now. if you can guarantee delivery date before that, I would love to have it from you. pls advice
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Well it's kinda tight and I cant promise you ... if u dont mind using used converter unit, maybe I will sell you my unit first, different model but with both SPDIF and Coxial output, using the better chip that the one I recommend, I got it RM100 ... maybe we can deal around half the price I got, PM me smile.gif
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post Aug 7 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(leshita87 @ Aug 7 2008, 01:24 PM)
Another owner of Zero DAC , mADmAN could u add me to the thread, please... cool.gif  cool.gif  cool.gif

Still burning though, hectic uni schedule, but zero have shown some serious capabilities with stock spec... drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Actually the stock OPA2604 setup is quite up to the task, after modding my Aego 2's input cap, now OPA2604 is da best match compare to DY2000 (too smooth), OPA2107(vocal abit neutral, bright, depth not that good thus less 3D), LT1364(High sounds bright and weird to me)

In the end, synergy is your best friend biggrin.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
I'm agree with the bold sentence. Kelly Clarkson song vocal and the back ground music were blend together more detail & my speaker tweeter were sound more neutral not too sharp.
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Actually the stock OPA2604 sound is quite good, quite balance, but stay tune for more poisonous spread once the discrete opamp reach ccschua's hand biggrin.gif Venom king he is tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 8 2008, 04:02 PM)
Oops. Tried the LT 1057.

Basically this opamp quite analytical. if u have warm and laid speaker and want to crank more detail out of it, try this.

It gives more acoustics, at the same time more bass. Bass is a little loose though.

the Earth and Sun already send out. by next week should get. Hope the sound dont disappoint us.
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Estimate 1 week time for the discrete opamp arrival based on my last time experience smile.gif Mr. Ho mentioned last time the BursonAudio bought off all first gen discrete opamp together with the copyright, that's why he didnt produce anymore! This time he wont sell off his copyright anymore, the ZERO gang should be his first marketing team biggrin.gif Cant wait to hear chua's impression smile.gif


Added on August 9, 2008, 3:45 pmUSB to coaxial converter order status:
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Terenz_C - ?
Kukarchoon - confirm
RAV4 - confirm
RAV4's friend - confirm
ccschua - confirm
leshita87 - confirm x 2 PAID
tunasandwich - confirm x 1 PAID
jackal1983 - confirm x 1 PAID
sakuragi01 - confirm

Hi guys, I received RM30 on 8th August but I cant get a clue who's money is that, the mysterious man please PM me biggrin.gif

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post Aug 11 2008, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 10 2008, 10:23 PM)
Wonder how are u guys are testing the unit and whats your setup. By now u should hear some difference. Do post some notes if u bring the Zero to test around.

If u are looking towards some RCA cables, there are some used rca currently on sale.

Some of the test results shows a simple SNIPPIT bypass job can have good results. Although not as good as HDAM, it is still an improvement.
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Should reach at least 50 hours of usage for 3rd bulk guys, stock OPA2604 aint too bad for bright and revealing system smile.gif

I seen some china user commenting on the SUN and EARTH discrete opamp, compared to OPA2604, those discrete opamp sounds rounder, soundstage is wider, depth is deeper, more details, more precise positioning, more discrete high, smoother, less sparkling but with lots more emotional. smile.gif



USB to coaxial converter order status:
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Terenz_C - confirm x 1
Kukarchoon - confirm x 1 PAID
RAV4 - confirm x 1 PAID
RAV4's friend - confirm x 1 PAID
ccschua - confirm x 1
leshita87 - confirm x 2 PAID
tunasandwich - confirm x 1 PAID
jackal1983 - confirm x 1 PAID
sakuragi01 - confirm x 1


Order submitted smile.gif

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post Aug 13 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 13 2008, 12:23 PM)
Yup, fixed.
My Audiolab is like 17 years old it still sounds good. Friend of mine has the "original" Made in England NAD which has a nice warm sound but since it's only 30W per channel, needs proper pairing with more efficient speaker. The 8000A even though is rated at 60W, have been tested to push more than 80W so it has no problem driving more difficult speakers. 8000A is known to be neutral and transparent so having the Zero is very useful for tuning the sound as the 8000A will just amplify whatever that is sent to it.

I tried some R&B last night and found the treble a little harsh, as what ccschua mentioned when the Zero is not properly burned in. Otherwise, the sound is like I have upgraded to a nice CDP. 2 hours+ of burn-in and I'm already enjoying the improvement!  rclxms.gif
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Sometimes digital transport also will change the sound alot, I just sold my own USB to SPDIF converter and I'm sticking with my friend Sharp MD's USB to SPDIF converter, before using my friend's converter, the ZERO with OPA2604 sound balance, warm and easy listenning but after changing to my friend's converter, it becomes bright, airy and lost the warm thick vocal which I crave for!

Chua mentioned he should getting the "EARTH" and "SUN" within these few days biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(DIYJewelryClub @ Aug 13 2008, 07:55 PM)
So far the following bypass job worth doing (if u dont use headphone)

1. pull the wire going to headphone board
2. snip/potong the 22pF output treble killer
3. replace the DAC power with Sanyo Oscon capacitor.
4. Replace the stock RCA plug with others such as Neutrik (WBT similar, pls recommend)

Can someone tell the value of sanyo oscon to be used.
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They mentioned 100uF 25v OS-CON

Anyway, waiting for Chua's Earth and Sun impression soon since he's playing with them ATM biggrin.gif So far his initial impression for "Earth" are "natural, smooth, neutral and transparent, it's like one step better from his OPA627ed ZERO, kinda like from a Proton jump to a Honda biggrin.gif


Added on August 14, 2008, 2:39 pmHi guys .... I'm here to announce start of Sun and Earth discrete opamp bulk because the factory is offering buy 1 Sun free 1 Earth promotion before 31st this month ... you paid for 1 and you get 2!!!!

Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"

shipping and tax :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) DHL (7-10days arrival) shipping for 10 pairs. If getting taxed, fees will be divided between buyer smile.gif You guys pay me the discrete opamp's money first, once the stock arrived and settled, then only I will calculate the shipping fees smile.gif

MOQ = 10
1. GodLuvSxS
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5.
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10.

Please fill up your name tongue.gif

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post Aug 14 2008, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Aug 14 2008, 10:51 PM)
Zero DAC pair with AegoM better or HD2 pair with AegoM better?
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well, I cant really comment about this but the ZERO dac now should found his ideal partner to reach another level biggrin.gif

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
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5.
6.
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8.
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10.

Now we got the 2nd member biggrin.gif

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post Aug 14 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:08 PM)
GodLuv, count me in for 2 sets please!

ccschua, THANKS for sharing good stuffs and making us poorer! tongue.gif
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wookay cool2.gif

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
3. RAV4
4. RAV4
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6.
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10.

Now we got 4 members cool.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 15 2008, 12:13 AM)
Who wants to share? I think I'll be getting the more neutral Earth. Any takers for the Sun?

Thanks to ccshua and Godluvsxs for finding these. I thought I was done opamp rolling for a while smile.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Aug 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
Hi GodLuvSxS, i wish to get an Earth too. Becoz my current speaker is dynamic and fast enough, more to harsh. Can me and kwekeugene get 2 units of Earth and consider as one set? smile.gif
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Hi there, the producer only offer buy 1 sun free 1 earth, so I think u guys have to order separate set, sorry sad.gif

Actually it's good to have a pair, more flexible for your future setup switching smile.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Aug 15 2008, 07:20 AM)
Can no problem.

u can share the unit.

if u buy 1 earth, free 1 earth.

or buy 1 sun, free 1 sun.
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oh? is it? cos he only offer me buy 10 sun free 10 earth in email, never mind I just sent him a mail to ask about this. Thanks for the headup, chua smile.gif

anyway I add you guys into list first ...

Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)
1. GodLuvSxS
2. Stormspider
3. RAV4
4. RAV4
5. thh1212
6. Rock_Fever
7. yehlai
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10.

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post Aug 15 2008, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 15 2008, 12:56 PM)
Is the Sun and earth opamp need soldering or just connect wire it inside the dac?
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Hi there, no soldering needed, just connect the wire smile.gif

UPDATE : Ok guys, i'm here to bring great news for you guys, the producer offer us buy either buy 1 "SUN" free 1 "EARTH" or buy 1 "EARTH" free 1 "EARTH". EARTH is more for vocal while SUN is more for classical, have your choice ... those wanna get "EARTH" pair, please contact your partner then approach me biggrin.gif IMHO it's best to get "SUN" and "EARTH" pair, cos you cant predict your future setup and your future music taste, and I cant promise any more same production in the future cos the producer seems to develop a habit discontinue the model once it's been there for long smile.gif Make your wise choice.


Latest Pricing :
RM99 (USD30 x 3.3) for 1 "Sun" FREE 1 "Earth"
RM75 (USD22.5 x 3.3) for 1 "EARTH" FREE 1 "EARTH"


Anyone who want to change their order, please let me know smile.gif Thanks biggrin.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 09:10 PM

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Buy "SUN" free "EARTH" discrete opamp (MOQ = 10)

1. GodLuvSxS "SUN n EARTH"
2. Stormspider "SUN n EARTH"
3. RAV4 "SUN n EARTH"
4. RAV4's friend "SUN n EARTH"
5. thh1212 "SUN n EARTH"
6. Rock_Fever "SUN n EARTH"
7. yehlai & ? "EARTH n EARTH"
8. leshita87 "SUN n EARTH"
9. Kyl3 & SKY 1809 "EARTH n EARTH"
10. jackal1983 & ? "? n EARTH"

Last spot ... who is the last taker? Hurry up!!!!

Yehlai : I think it's best to get yourself a set, can play around ... if u dont like it, yet u can still sell it later, cos i could see huge potential of it and many will after this once those poison mist spreading around biggrin.gif

mADmAN : Not interested for this round? "SUN" seems quite right for your music brows.gif I need one more guy to kick start leh, come help me la rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(jackal1983 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:41 PM)
ops... just tot wanna pair with Yehlai smile.gif i oso wan 1 EARTH..
see la... put me in as the 10th person EARTH + another EATRH or SUN buyer or i pair vf bro yehlai  tongue.gif
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u go PM mADmAN, i think he may want the SUN biggrin.gif Faster guys, wanna submit order soon, my heart seems cant wait anymore sweat.gif

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post Aug 15 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(leshita87 @ Aug 15 2008, 11:15 PM)
for the discrete opamp, izzit come with da 100mm cable like those of ccschua 1... hmm.gif
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yup smile.gif same measurement as chua one biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2008, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(DEz012 @ Aug 15 2008, 11:37 PM)
Is the last spot still open? Getting a Earth.
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I just PM mADmAN to see whether he wanna partner with jackal1983 or not while ccschua try to partner with yehlai to get "EARTH n EARTH" and these are not confirm, so classify no more open slot, sorry! Unless u be the 11st customer and getting yourself a pair, else i guess i'll PM u the latest update once these guys settled, ok? smile.gif

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post Aug 16 2008, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Aug 16 2008, 01:24 AM)
Chua,

Thanks for the info. Has the sound matured? Still minor difference between Sun and Earth?
Steve,

I asked you to put in my order earlier, I think you missed it. Just a reminder smile.gif
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wops, sorry! will add u to the list right now. anyway, chua, yehlai decided to partner with you in "EARTH n EARTH" pair biggrin.gif

1. GodLuvSxS "SUN n EARTH"
2. Stormspider "SUN n EARTH"
3. RAV4 "SUN n EARTH"
4. RAV4's friend "SUN n EARTH"
5. thh1212 "SUN n EARTH"
6. Rock_Fever "SUN n EARTH"
7. yehlai & ccschua "EARTH n EARTH"
8. leshita87 "SUN n EARTH"
9. Kyl3 & SKY 1809 "EARTH n EARTH"
10. jackal1983 & ? "? n EARTH"
11. kwekeugene "SUN n EARTH"

Those who confirmed order, you may start bank in to me: Maybank 108178781772 Leong Chun Yen, those with partner please settle internal payment first then bank in to me. Thanks biggrin.gif Oh ya, please do send me a sms @ 0125690433 once you banked in. smile.gif

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