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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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eddylws
post Sep 29 2008, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 27 2008, 04:24 PM)
We are talking about ZERO and the costs performance ratio it can provide. We are happy about it and it is not our interests to show other unit more superior.

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Friend, nothing is the best, and if i not misstaken you was planing to change your DAC before.
Just wan to share with you that in the market still have a lot low price DAC and sounded very good DAC.
Normally how we improve our DAC is listen to other DAC then inprove from your DAC.


If you think that is the best then that is the best loh..........


Added on September 29, 2008, 3:04 pm
QUOTE(abel @ Sep 28 2008, 01:43 AM)
My CDP is Marantz CD-5001 low end model
the marking is opamp original opamp NJM2068D
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Woh... the chip is solder under the borad... that will be abit hard cause need to take out the chip and drill 8 hole on the board and solder the cable on top of it....

i need to have a look on the board then only know whether can put in the OP-AMP or not.

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post Sep 29 2008, 03:53 PM

 
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eddylws,

What other DAC that you are talking about?
eddylws
post Sep 29 2008, 04:17 PM

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HI kwekeugene

this are few DAC from this DIY Online shop
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/227.htm
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/120.htm
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/50.htm (i bough the TDA 5141 OPA out put is RM380 & TDA541 tube is RM 420)
http://www.lite8.com/
http://www.pacificvalve.us/LITEDAC50.html ( i bought this with RM470, I think no more production)

This all are very good design.

Eddy

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post Sep 29 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(eddylws @ Sep 29 2008, 03:01 PM)
Friend, nothing is the best, and if i not misstaken you was planing to change your DAC before.
Just wan to share with you that in the market still have a lot low price DAC and sounded very good DAC.
Normally how we improve our DAC is listen to other DAC then inprove from your DAC.
If you think that is the best then that is the best loh..........


Added on September 29, 2008, 3:04 pm
Woh... the chip is solder under the borad... that will be abit hard cause need to take out the chip and drill 8 hole on the board and solder the cable on top of it....

i need to have a look on the board then only know whether can put in the OP-AMP or not.
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thats the problem
i scared is multi layer board

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post Sep 29 2008, 05:10 PM

 
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Thanks for the prompt reply. How does the Zero compared to the rest of them?
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post Sep 29 2008, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(kwekeugene @ Sep 29 2008, 05:10 PM)
Thanks for the prompt reply. How does the Zero compared to the rest of them?
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I am not sure cause i have no change to try on teh ZERO DAC, but i believe the ZERO DAC still can improve a lot by changing the some of the caps.

one thing i dun like about the ZERO DAC is because of the ZERO DAC it using a single unit OPA output. If it can make it 2 OPA output that is much better. This is all my opinion.

Eddy Lim


Added on September 29, 2008, 6:18 pm
QUOTE(abel @ Sep 29 2008, 04:44 PM)
thats the problem
i scared is multi layer board
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can you take back and front of the PCB.

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ccschua
post Sep 29 2008, 08:00 PM

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Try TDA 1543 or TDA 1541. They are cheap. DAC1 now on sale for RM 100. Who want.

ZERO also dont have IV stage. but for the price of it, plus headphone and optical/coaxial and the implementation, it is best bang for bucks.
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post Sep 29 2008, 08:02 PM

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yawn.gif notworthy.gif hmm.gif biggrin.gif

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post Sep 29 2008, 08:13 PM

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I mean this one RM 100.

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post Sep 29 2008, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 29 2008, 08:13 PM)
I mean this one RM 100.
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KingWa do send me the Schemastic of this DAC, it is a very good design.

Eddy
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post Sep 29 2008, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(eddylws @ Sep 25 2008, 12:02 AM)
Hi RAV4,

Octave have Switchcraft RCA which is very good for CD, AMP or DAC, if is not misstaken is RM35 - RM40 per pic, Is you looking for better one you ask the Boss (Mr.Yap) to order the ETI RCA for you the RCA cause RM180 per pair.
Switchcraft RCA is much Natural & warm.
ETI RCA is more to Clearn, Dynamic, and fast signal pass to. 

It is depend what is lack out from your system, that is nothing is better and better, event you can use back your original RCA and change the signal cable to sliver or pure copper cable. that will give you alot improvement already.

Thanks

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Thanks for the tips Eddy, and welcome to this thread! Switchcraft sounds like just what I need. It's always nice to have experienced Sifu drop in on us with guidance. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:04 PM

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When sifu come in, it always results in mod. when u mod, your wife will mod you.
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(abel @ Sep 24 2008, 06:58 PM)
i got lubang to get Van Den Hul Royal Jade in quite good price ... RM 100 per meter u can check at outside the price i think is RM 130 per meter hurry while stock last hheheh

this cable give u a Plenty of detail and excitement. Soundstage is nice and deep and treble is never harsh or rough. A great upgrade for the budget restricted.
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I've checked online, got a pretty good review but comparatively the CS-122 is overall a more balanced cable. Family resemblance is there... no point for me to change my CS-122 then. smile.gif


Added on September 29, 2008, 10:12 pmGL, since Chua's upgrade using Audio-GD's RCA is so positive and you are ordering so many Moons, why don't you check with Kingwa on the cost of the RCA and we just get it from him as well? Then we can try Eddy's Oyaide 4N copper!

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post Sep 29 2008, 10:24 PM

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When sifu come in, it always results in mod. when u mod, your wife will mod you. after your wife mod you, you very song song flex.gif HIFI Song Song FIHI also song song rclxms.gif

this is what a dream for HIFI KaKi biggrin.gif

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post Sep 29 2008, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 29 2008, 08:13 PM)
I mean this one RM 100.
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SERIOUS??? I don't mind buying 1 just to compare if RM100!


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QUOTE(eddylws @ Sep 29 2008, 04:17 PM)
HI kwekeugene

this are few DAC from this DIY Online shop
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/227.htm
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/120.htm
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/50.htm (i bough the TDA 5141 OPA out put is RM380 & TDA541 tube is RM 420)
http://www.lite8.com/
http://www.pacificvalve.us/LITEDAC50.html ( i bought this with RM470, I think no more production)

This all are very good design.

Eddy
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Wow... the board designs are beautiful! The board on second link even has the clock crystal and DAC chip isolated from vibration.

Eddy, I didn't know there are other better DACs out there at this price point. So far those I've come across are all higher cost than Zero by almost double. But these are in KIT form that's why they're cheap rite? Wish I can read Mandarin tho... thanks for sharing!


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post Sep 30 2008, 12:02 AM

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Looks like audio-gd is having a problem.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1614864

BTW, RAV are u not going to mod the ZERO with the RCA .
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post Sep 30 2008, 03:52 AM

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The audio gd's rca female seems to be quite solid, quite be quite bang for the bucks, i will try asking the price. I may go and order the OCC copper cable, anyone want to join? together share share the shipping, shipping from canada to malaysia is abit too expensive tongue.gif

The hifidiy mini USB dac is kinda attractive, might consider bring in one unit to review it's market potential biggrin.gif
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post Sep 30 2008, 07:48 PM

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So for those guys who order, look for to some freebies - the RCA plug CMC which i m using now and also Silver cable. Oh my god. time to diy.

http://www.audio-gd.com/enweb/pro/diy/OPA.htm


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post Sep 30 2008, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 30 2008, 12:02 AM)
Looks like audio-gd is having a problem.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1614864

BTW, RAV are u not going to mod the ZERO with the RCA .
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yes, still looking at what RCA to get. Since yours is so positive, I hope GodLuv can arrange to get them from Audio-gd as well.
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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Sep 30 2008, 09:09 PM)
yes, still looking at what RCA to get. Since yours is so positive, I hope GodLuv can arrange to get them from Audio-gd as well.
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I will try to "persuade" audio gd to send some as free gift LOL If not, I will consider paying for it since it's manufacture by CMC, quality is there smile.gif Wanna try OCC copper instead of Silver though, my current setup does sound abit bright to me smile.gif Dun wanna add anymore brightness to it biggrin.gif

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