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 The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!

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GodLuvSxS
post Sep 21 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 21 2008, 01:16 AM)
I have not tested my earth yet , now the moon version is out !

Hard time to do the catch up.
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It's good to have multiple sound nowday biggrin.gif


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post Sep 21 2008, 06:33 PM

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Today did some upgrade for the ZERO DAC.

First thing I do, remove the original Gucci RCA and replace with the RCA (free gift from Mr He). Next put the connecting wire using Silver cable. This tiny silver cable is thinner than hair and so flimsy.

Next solder a wire to the RCA ground and connect OPA earth ground to this wire.

Put on the volume, connect the Volex 17604 (corrected to British polarity) and off the ZERO dac sings.

I was like 'shock' and awe and my jaw was wide open. The sound is more transparent with very good imaging. Worth my day.

When the OPA ground is not connected, I measured some running AC voltage of about 0.15V (floating voltage). Connecting it to ground force it to zero. I prefer to connect the OPA ground to the RCA ground (not to the chasis ground).

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post Sep 21 2008, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 21 2008, 06:33 PM)
Today did some upgrade for the ZERO DAC.

First thing I do, remove the original Gucci RCA and replace with the RCA (free gift from Mr He). Next put the connecting wire using Silver cable. This tiny silver cable is thinner than hair and so flimsy.

Next solder a wire to the RCA ground and connect OPA earth ground to this wire.

Put on the volume, connect the Volex 17604 (corrected to British polarity) and off the ZERO dac sings.

I was like 'shock' and awe and my jaw was wide open. The sound is more transparent with very good imaging. Worth my day.

When the OPA ground is not connected, I measured some running AC voltage of about 0.15V (floating voltage). Connecting it to ground force it to zero. I prefer to connect the OPA ground to the RCA ground (not to the chasis ground).
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wow, i think that silver cable increase the transparency alot .... wow ... makes me hand itchy already! The different is very significant, like the impact of changing opamp? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Sep 21 2008, 06:40 PM)
wow, i think that silver cable increase the transparency alot .... wow ... makes me hand itchy already! The different is very significant, like the impact of changing opamp? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 21 2008, 08:42 PM

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GL, RM114 transferred 15min ago. Thx.


Added on September 21, 2008, 8:51 pm
QUOTE(ccschua @ Sep 21 2008, 06:33 PM)
Today did some upgrade for the ZERO DAC.

First thing I do, remove the original Gucci RCA and replace with the RCA (free gift from Mr He). Next put the connecting wire using Silver cable. This tiny silver cable is thinner than hair and so flimsy.

Next solder a wire to the RCA ground and connect OPA earth ground to this wire.

Put on the volume, connect the Volex 17604 (corrected to British polarity) and off the ZERO dac sings.

I was like 'shock' and awe and my jaw was wide open. The sound is more transparent with very good imaging. Worth my day.

When the OPA ground is not connected, I measured some running AC voltage of about 0.15V (floating voltage). Connecting it to ground force it to zero. I prefer to connect the OPA ground to the RCA ground (not to the chasis ground).
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Hi Chua, sounds like a good upgrade! Where can we buy this RCA and silver cable for our upgrade?

I notice that you didn't do the BA caps mod to your OPA... is that because you're not using the extension cable?

As always, thanks for sharing all these valuable info!

This post has been edited by RAV4: Sep 21 2008, 08:51 PM
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post Sep 21 2008, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Sep 21 2008, 08:42 PM)
GL, RM114 transferred 15min ago. Thx.


Added on September 21, 2008, 8:51 pm
Hi Chua, sounds like a good upgrade! Where can we buy this RCA and silver cable for our upgrade?

I notice that you didn't do the BA caps mod to your OPA... is that because you're not using the extension cable?

As always, thanks for sharing all these valuable info!
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This RCA is free gift from audio-gd. The RCA feels real solid, which I found on those good quality amplifier RCA connector.

I had a bad experience with ZERO RCA. I once pulled out the RCA cable together with RCA ground plate. (the whole RCA external ground plate came off). So getting a full solid core solid RCA (u can try neutrik from farnell, which is quite cheap)

Silver cable from Octave-electronics, kind of expensive. RM 20 per 1/5 meter.

Remember, silver cable will give u more transparency, higher high, which I need for my system. Handling those thin silver cable is nightmare if u are not skillful.
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post Sep 21 2008, 10:17 PM

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2. jerren (MOON + 1 extension cable) PAID
3. DEz012 (MOON) PAID

4. RAV4 (MOON) PAID
5. stormspider (MOON + 1 extension cable) PAID
6. skydna (MOON) PAID

7. utellme (MOON + 1 extension cable) PAID
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9. ccschua (MOON) RM57 team #3

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2. FiSHjIGN (SUN + EARTH free MOON + 1 cable) PAID

RAV: Money received and updated the list!

If silver maybe abit harsh for some system, i think maybe the OCC copper better choice, more transparency then OFC yet more musical than silver? must do some experiment biggrin.gif

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post Sep 21 2008, 11:21 PM

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OK. Please get me some OCC cable for signal cables.

I am thinking the ground cable also need some good cable. Power ground need thicker cable. Please let me know if u are buying.
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post Sep 21 2008, 11:32 PM

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http://www.takefiveaudio.com/mall/shopexd.asp?id=790 I think this 22awg would be enough, around RM15/meter, 24awg is lotsa cheaper, just RM7/meter biggrin.gif But shipping could cost something since shipping from canada sad.gif

I think if possible try to change the coaxial RCA female too, should improves abit biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2008, 08:53 AM

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CHUA the rca connecter quite good quality
ermm audio GD selling that kind of RCA plug for how much i wanna do for my CD-player still alot of things need to be done now just
half only not enuf parts

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RAV4 at last this my DIY power cable have been finalize hehehe
who interested i wanna do in bulk smile.gif price is abt RM 180 +/- for 1m
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and i got 2 x 1m Canare Coaxial cable with Neutrik plug interested pm me this is brand new
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GodLuvSxS
post Sep 22 2008, 09:56 AM

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Submit an order inquiry email yesterday, now waiting for reply then will settle payment asap biggrin.gif Hope to get it very soon!

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post Sep 22 2008, 11:24 AM

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Chua, thanks! Yes, the Neutrik RCA socket at farnell is really cheap at RM6.50 each. I wonder what's available at Octave so I don't have to wait for shipping. I was told they moved to a bungalow house near Amcorp Mall, is that correct?

GL, yes, I agree Silver would place a bit more emphasis on treble. I prefer to have something more neutral like copper. The Neotech cable looks good actually! Take Five Audio also have Cardas Female RCA connectors for CAN$10.95 per pair. Vampire Cryo treated RCA is CAN$16.95. Quite a bit more than Neutrik but I wonder if it's worth it since gonna DIY once and then use for years... Or maybe can check if can bulk from Audio-GD if they're cheaper?

Abel, how does it sound now after burn in? I'm actually arranging to buy the IeGO cable coz they're Cryo treated and have very good review comparable with US$300 cable. But I still need 1 cable for my conditioner... unless I change my wall plate to US-type also...
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post Sep 22 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Sep 22 2008, 11:24 AM)
Chua, thanks! Yes, the Neutrik RCA socket at farnell is really cheap at RM6.50 each. I wonder what's available at Octave so I don't have to wait for shipping. I was told they moved to a bungalow house near Amcorp Mall, is that correct?

GL, yes, I agree Silver would place a bit more emphasis on treble. I prefer to have something more neutral like copper. The Neotech cable looks good actually! Take Five Audio also have Cardas Female RCA connectors for CAN$10.95 per pair. Vampire Cryo treated RCA is CAN$16.95. Quite a bit more than Neutrik but I wonder if it's worth it since gonna DIY once and then use for years... Or maybe can check if can bulk from Audio-GD if they're cheaper?

Abel, how does it sound now after burn in? I'm actually arranging to buy the IeGO cable coz they're Cryo treated and have very good review comparable with US$300 cable. But I still need 1 cable for my conditioner... unless I change my wall plate to US-type also...
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I think the Neotech should be quite good! OCC copper reported to be detailed yet musical! I think if possible go for copper based RCA female, those two u mentioned are brass based, based on theory the electric conductivity of copper is better than brass, best bang for the buck copper based rca female would be CMC brand - Model 805F, around USD10 per pair smile.gif

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QUOTE(RAV4 @ Sep 22 2008, 11:24 AM)
Abel, how does it sound now after burn in? I'm actually arranging to buy the IeGO cable coz they're Cryo treated and have very good review comparable with US$300 cable. But I still need 1 cable for my conditioner... unless I change my wall plate to US-type also...
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Sound more smoother now but wont expect very huge different smile.gif now i run-in at my CD-Player i can say not bad for the price ratio.

i plan to sell my Transparent power cord actually i got 2 Transparent power cord but different model another 1 i keep first smile.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Sep 22 2008, 11:51 AM)
I think the Neotech should be quite good! OCC copper reported to be detailed yet musical! I think if possible go for copper based RCA female, those two u mentioned are brass based, based on theory the electric conductivity of copper is better than brass, best bang for the buck copper based rca female would be CMC brand - Model 805F, around USD10 per pair smile.gif
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Vampire has a model that's made using OFC Copper but cost a lot more at CAN$23.95! The CMC at US$10 per pair is a good price comparatively.
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ehh guys

how long did you wait for the OPAs after payment to kingwa

last weekend paid him thru paypal, and I havent heard of him already...

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QUOTE(alamakazam @ Sep 24 2008, 01:09 PM)
ehh guys

how long did you wait for the OPAs after payment to kingwa

last weekend paid him thru paypal, and I havent heard of him already...
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Opps ... sorry! Posting using GF's id sad.gif - GodLuvSxS

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post Sep 24 2008, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(alamakazam @ Sep 24 2008, 01:09 PM)
ehh guys

how long did you wait for the OPAs after payment to kingwa

last weekend paid him thru paypal, and I havent heard of him already...
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Hi dude! Kingwa just came back from Hong Kong, they also just replied my email which was sent during the weekend. Stay tuned, he's a reliable guy, no worries! Will submit the payment later ... hope to get them next Monday, so I could send it to you guys asap and enjoy it during Raya holiday biggrin.gif
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thanks man, china very scary
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QUOTE(alamakazam @ Sep 24 2008, 05:06 PM)
thanks man, china very scary
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not scary, man biggrin.gif Lotsa great thing to be found there, heaven to us audiophile, especially budget one biggrin.gif

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