money is mine and it's up to me to do with my money in whatever thing,
shall i ask you for that?

money get back is the first thing, fail or not who care?
money invest in whatever thing also carry the risk of loss, now my money almost beck, my risk is almost over and my judgement was right even this IRC fail at a later moment, but please dont sound like u r an expert in investment and say this say that to ppl.
i never care for that and i am not here to look for member, i just said the truth that happening on this IRC now.

that's y i said u dun simply impose your own view on ppl, didn't you?
what invest without analyzing, fail or not is not from your mouth, it's from the money i get beck.
what believing investment 100% won fail, u invest money u have the feeling of not securing, u invest for what?
that's y u r funny.
It's what you think, not what other ppl think.

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Added on April 23, 2009, 2:41 pmu can go over the pandan indah branch and ask for that to have a look.
Their office located at second floor near the IRC cafe

This post has been edited by TT_ren: Apr 23 2009, 02:41 PM

Yes, it's your money.
Since you decided to post your "investment" in this forum.
I will scrutinize it and give short comment without explaining further.
I can explain, if you ask nicely "why?".

A good investor will remain neutral, no matter what happen.
What you really lack is a neutral mind.
Look at your own assumptions you had made.
If you really don't care, no matter what bad comments I made would not make you emotionally unstable.

I'm not against MLM businesses but "money get back is 1st thing, fail or not who cares" is something no MLM person should say man. Its like the lamp berger.. Dun care if everyone below me dies.. I get my money back.. run fast fast That's the thing that scares people.

When you go into something like MLM you should be responsible. Imagine convincing your friends and family to join it then when it fails.. "Nvm I got my money back" Ties with your family and friends.. gone..

ha ha what a funny guy.
how u know i am emotional unstable, u like a master that seem like know everything and so called "assumption""
y not u standing in front of public and i comment those negative comment on you, then i c if u would emotional unstable??


and one more thing, the one making "assumption" is you, later post i'll quote all your "assumption" without any quote and evidence but keep on divert topic in this thread and let others see your " assumption"
neutral mind??
dont make me laugh lah, who the hack r u?
u thought u r bill gate and act as proffesor here??
how much u had earn for your "investment",proffesor??

and u look at your own assumption u had made,
if you r neutral, u wont be that childish and act like wanna show off,
what u lack is neutral mind, dont impose your own comment on others ppl.

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Added on April 24, 2009, 3:58 pmWho r the "some members", example?? proof??
what an assumption?

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:00 pmwhat to mean by "past history", u r talking 100years ago??
IRC existed how long, any past history now??
"good assumption"" !!!

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:02 pmhow to define "beginning stage"????
3years beginning stage??
10years,20years later all beginning stage??


all u say loh, so clever your "assumption"

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:04 pmyour ultimate destrution comment please quote for truth,
if not u r doing ultimate destrution on ppl thread,
assumption?? good good good

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:06 pmHow u know i not even tried to understand the business??
it's your "assumption"???

now the IRC "fail" already?????????????

huh??? who is the one saying ultimate destruction words???
how u define "fail"?????

wondering who u r by saying all this without any quote???

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:08 pmsell voucher = ponzi scheme

another "example" from our fellow fren by making this "assumption"

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:10 pmNow again, not answering my question by tried to "divert topic"

Believing investment 100%????
what an assumption somemore

how u know i am 100%????
u so " strong" one????





IN conclusion, this guy always throwing some irresponsible comment and never try to think before making any reasonable comment,
Don't ever think that we would that simple mislead by all you comment.

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Added on April 24, 2009, 4:19 pmbro, one thing, i joined that time no intention to look for downline,
the monthly return is reasonable to me, the money i earned myself and used in my own manner u got any comment?

So it's not mine issue to talk about responsible or convincing people to join, it's not my issue please.

lamp berger is lamp berger, IRC is IRC,don't mix together and don't use the example on me please.

This post has been edited by TT_ren: Apr 24 2009, 04:19 PM

:stars:Agreed!! have done a checking with this so call IRC with kementerian pengguna.Guest what!This company had no MLM license to operate under MLM and anything go wrong you cannot bring them to court..the officer said.BNB is now investigate them for
collecting money from the public and if you invest your $ will become like iceberg...

As for me..its nothing wrong to go and spend $ for a nice meals and it is not that expensive
Watch out...'i hv heard other rest is following these concept ....steven corner in Pandan Indah...and 1 rest outlet in Tesco Ampang...
same amount...rm350..per star..and start recruiting members...

They will pay you rm15 that they took from your friend you recruit...as simple as that...The bigger you friend invest the bigger rm you get paid...So it is not worth to loose a good friend if anything goes wrong...

i failed one time b4...i wont believe MLM plan anymore

The food is not nice la for IRC no offence

They dun hv licence is becoz, the cafe is doing with 2 lines (means 1 person with 2 downlines)
If they operate it with 3 lines, then they must get a lincence for it.

1 person with 2 lines and 2person with 4lines, doesnt it as Multi Level scheme stacked ? It also forms the Pyramid too ..

Yes..if it starts with 3 lines and 3 person with 6lines..
Then will nid a licence..

is there a guideline on applying these license ? or a website for us to refer to ?

Gee.. You have a very defensive attitude. I was only saying that if you trick other ppl into going in MLM just to cover the expenses then its not the right thing to do. If you went in without that intention and just solely for the monthly return then good for you.

Don't have to be so snappy. If you can't take discussions in forums then whats the point in discussion?

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Added on April 28, 2009, 1:07 pmThere's more Steven's Corner doing that out there than just pandan indah.. lol.. My friend joined that and I'm tumpanging his card for my coffees..

This post has been edited by DriedIce: Apr 28 2009, 01:07 PM

its named as STG- Steven's Tea Garden rite? i heard it also ..

Yup. About the same concept as IRC.

Have you tried the old Steven's Corner before the change?

AFAIK STG and Steven's Corner are still separate entity....maybe they are afraid this concept may not work or someone else is using their name to do this business

To TT_ren :

Just came across this thread, and would like to put in my 2 cents worth of opinion.

I have a friend who's doing IRC as well, and I suppose it's somewhat working out for him.

However, having read your 'discussion' with jasonhanjk, I seriously think that you need to re-evaluate your attitude towards this. Don't get me wrong, I'm neutral on the MLM concept; IRC somewhat resembles the MLM concept, and that's fine by me. Interesting that someone mentioned Usana; I used to work in the pharmaceutical line for a short while, and Usana is an excellent product, in comparison with other similar products. We did a simple iodine test with one of their anti-oxidant products, and surprisingly enough, it was on par, if not better, than most of the other similiar supplements.

Anyhow, your arguments with jasonhanjk seems ridiculous, it just seems that you're avoiding the points that he brought up. Your Post #248 proved exactly his point of your emotional unstability; instead of addressing the comments that he brought up, you end up biting him back spitely.

Example quote from you:
"ha ha what a funny guy.
how u know i am emotional unstable, u like a master that seem like know everything and so called "assumption""
y not u standing in front of public and i comment those negative comment on you, then i c if u would emotional unstable??"

Try saying that in a professional environment, non-anonymously. I dare you. See what happens. We're talking about investment here, money is involved, and it's not coffee house talk.

Take note that I don't even know jasonhanjk, nor do am I against the whole MLM/IRC argument. I just happen to agree with his points, and you've just made a fool of yourself by proving your maturity level in your response.

Word of advice : Take people's comments with a pinch of salt; everyone's entitled to opinions, like mine and yours as well. Listening to people's opinion and analysing it with a level-headed attitude goes a long way in investment, if that's what you're thinking of doing in the future.

Anyway, good luck, don't bomb, dude. Take it easy.

Btw, is your '?' key stuck or something? One '?' symbol will do, to end a sentence.

This post has been edited by kileak: Apr 29 2009, 04:24 PM

Need some guidance over here ... thanks

irc going wider network..open few outlet in a time.

raja uda at mainland and krystal point at bayan lepas area got island red cafe

i saw a shop under renovation with their banner hanging outside in bukit tinggi klang. they are going to open there. and they advertise 'eat & earn' all over the place. tried this restaurant once, b4 i know they have this scheme, not so nice and the price is expensive