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simplesmile
post Apr 18 2009, 07:35 AM

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OK, I have some newbie questions. How does share financing work?

1. Lets say I have $10k worth of shares in my account. Will I be given another $10k of margin to buy stocks?

2. If I buy $20k worth of shares, and these are bought with $10k in cash and $10k in margin financing. So comes T+3, do I settle $10k or $20k?

3. Is the interest rate charged on the financing a monthly rate or annual rate?

4. If I share finance $10k to buy $10k worth of shares, what will happen when the share price drops to $8k? Do I have to top up cash $2k? If the shares rise back to $10k, will I get back my $2k?

5. Can I just pay the interest alone, or do I have to interest + principal (like a loan installment)?

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post Nov 28 2009, 12:50 PM

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Some experts are talking about a second economy dip early 2010. After missing out on the dip in early 2009, this time around I am eager not to miss the 2010 dip (if it ever happens).

Some of you have taken out share margin financing and bought stocks on the cheap. And I believe these people have made handsome capital gains. I have some questions about share margin financing.

1. Is it a requirement to transfer my existing shares to the bank offering me the share margin financing facility? Can I get any facility without transferring my existing shares?
2. If I bank in cash as my collateral, can i use the CASH + Margin for trading, or just allowed to use the Margin only?
3. How much margin can I get with lets say 10k cash & 100k stocks as collateral?
4. Is the interest rate BLR minus, or BLR plus? which bank offers the cheapest rate?
5. Is share margin financing the same as share financing?
6. What's the opposite of a share cash account?

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post Nov 28 2009, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Nov 28 2009, 02:38 PM)
Q1...No need  you may need to open up another CDS A/c just for the margin A/C

Q2. Yes.. cash + margin... CIMB investment BB give 60% margin
      eg: If you bank in 40K cash you can trade 100K
            or you deposit 40K of security value you can trade another 60K (NB: in CIMB Security value is determine by the the bank... blue chip are taken in 100% of the closing but some lake MSPORTs is only accepted at 80% of closing and cap to RM0.85 and some like AUTOAIR have sero security value)
Q3 for 10k cash you should get RM25K
    100K  stock depend on what stock. You may get between 150K  to Zero  more( if all the stock blue Chips like CIMB or SIME you should get 150K more if all are SAAG or a like you may get very little.)
Q4. About BLR that shouldn't bother you they pay small interest on debit balance.
you want to know more call CIMB IBB at 603 2084 9802/03/04/05
Q5 and Q6 too technical for me...
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Thanks for taking the time to answer me.

For Q2: If I bank in 40k cash, I can trade 100k. Do I have to settle this 100k on T+3? Or can I just carry on the loan and just pay the interest?
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post Nov 29 2009, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Nov 28 2009, 04:26 PM)
yes  you can use the 100K  don't have to worry about T+3.
( but 100k security value can be less than real 100K if you don't buy the blue chip. For example if you buy MSPORTS you can only buy 80K worth)

in my case I never have problem since I deposit all my stock investment into the margin account and I only take 25% to 30% margin of the whole stock value.(even when they are willing to give me double the amount)
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i see. thanks for the explanation.
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post Mar 23 2011, 11:04 PM

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Where to get the best deal now?
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post Mar 23 2011, 11:53 PM

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Got this from CIMB

Collaterals : Quoted Share, Cash or Fixed Deposit
Margin of Financing : Up to 60%
Financing Amount : Min: RM50,000 Max: RM5 million

What does this portion mean? If I want to borrow RM50,000 then I must put in cash of RM83,333? Then I get financing of RM83,333 x 60% = RM50,000 ?

 

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