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 What you can do, I can do also!, What's the big deal about DSLR Cameras?

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derek87
post Jan 21 2008, 03:24 AM

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Wow!! Heat is still high here. haha...

Darthbaboon: From your photo comparison.. It's significantly it's the exposure compensation on your D40x is not enough. Or maybe... the sensor of your D40X is not good?better check with it.. haha.. Your exposure compensation of the picture is 0 which is normal, but sometimes metering white colour stuffs, needs exposure compensation bumped up to +1 so you can see it's white enough. and 1/8 shutter speed is too slow for handheld unless u are using a VR lense. =) SO i guess these are the elements which made your DSLR picture looked bad.

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post Jan 21 2008, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ Jan 19 2008, 06:24 PM)
yoh, pro, ngi hao mao? hao giw mao gian, det harn yim cha wave.gif
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Translation for you.

He said: " Hey pro, how are you? Long time no see, are you free for yamca? wave.gif "

haha...
derek87
post Jan 21 2008, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Jan 21 2008, 11:41 AM)
Ok a couple of quick questions :

I) How critical is post-processing for you guys? I have always printed, posted or presented my photos As-Is... direct from the camera. Always have adjusted lighting using apperture, shuttle speed or iso. I don't quite know how to do exposure compensation or other stuff so could that be why some photos come out "dull"?

II) Would you recommend the photos be taken in RAW or JPEG (Fine) mode?
@ Derek : Have some bad experiences with noise in high ISO modes for S3, so up till 1/3 or 1/4 for non-moving objects I'm still okay with it. Will try to lean against something or crop my hand against another object to stabilize. I guess will have to get out of bad habit and play with ISO more often. Out of curiosity... if 1/8 is slow... what's the standard/recommended shuttle speed for scenery/still objects?
Edit : Great pictures in the Bird Park outing. A pity I missed it. sad.gif
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1) For me, post-processing is a need in photography. I know there are a lot of photogs in lowyat do not agree with me, but it really helps u a lot when you want you want to bring out all the elements of a picture. Most of commercial photography nowadays are all PPed. So i think learning PP is an additional knowledge in photography. Both PP and photographing skills are important to me. That's what i think.

2) I would recommend photos to be taken in RAW mode. Your pictures can be easily saved when u realize you want/have to do the followings. adjust colour, exposure, brightness, contrast and create a HDR image from it, etc... It takes up more memory capacity in your card, but saves your pictures. So you decide. =)

Question for me: As i was told by someone in the forum, and i always try my best to follow that rule. That rule, is... 1/the focal length of the lens. which means, if you are taking a photo with 50mm, it's advisable to use 1/50 shutter speed or faster shutter speed, not slower than 1/50. It also depends on how steady how you hold your camera. Hope my tip helps. =)

For me, in the world of photography, it doesnt really matter how you get the photo, whether u PPed or none PPed, with skills or with luck. The main goal to use the camera is to have satisfaction of what you get from the camera. And of cause, sometimes u need to compare your pictures with others, and have c & cs in order to set your goals higher. When someone "WoWs" at your picture, you feel great and satisfied, and i bet this is definitely a great feeling for everyone here in photography.

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post Jan 22 2008, 01:09 AM

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Yes.. rules are meant to be broken.. just like the rules of third.. some pictures can actually turn out quite nice without implementing that rule. =)
derek87
post Jan 22 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 22 2008, 07:16 AM)
most importantly, PP with a purpose.

for me, my PP is almost always resize + sharpen + watermark + border only.

minor contrast / brightness correction if needed.

any further PPing would be considered as attempting to make picture into some creative form of art - not wrong either. smile.gif again, PP with a purpose. some times you need to PP to get a certain feel out of the pic.
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yeap... that is what i mentioned in my earlier post, to bring out the elements of a photo. but for some people, they just hate pp who pp.. i guess what they want is originality. hmm.gif

Haha.. im always happy in both ways, pped pictures, or non pp.. if it's good, then i'll love it and be satisfy.
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post Jan 22 2008, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(R a D ! c 4 L @ Jan 22 2008, 03:24 PM)
^lol then ask them to set the in camera settings to 0 smile.gif that's pure non pp stuffs biggrin.gif
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haha... no one will ever realize and take that as pp Rad tongue.gif. When your camera settings' are all 0, the colour of the picture really do sucks...
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post Jan 22 2008, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(R a D ! c 4 L @ Jan 22 2008, 03:36 PM)
that's why the debate about this matter will just go on and on and on forever until the film really went extinct. Which i highly doubt it will.

Even film itself has its own "pp'ed settings" inside, and the traditional darkroom has now evolved into photoshop. The concept is almost the same, the main thing that sets them apart is just two words: analogue/film and digital.
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Haha.. that's so true.

Btw, Rad, i really admire your works too.. haha... any chance that we can have TT sometimes in the future? icon_idea.gif
derek87
post Jan 23 2008, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(R a D ! c 4 L @ Jan 22 2008, 04:52 PM)
can can smile.gif my works so so only la ahaha... Just used alot of plug ins lol laugh.gif mostly im free d. Just pick a time. smile.gif
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Ooh.. that's good news then... hmmm... im having my exams now till 30th of Jan, then going back to hometown on the 3rd of feb for 2 weeks. Can meet up before i go back then, or else i can only arrange once im back from hometown. hmm.gif

 

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