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TSEmperorMeng
post Jan 14 2008, 10:16 PM, updated 18y ago

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Its not new.
Big teams do it, small teams do it.
Even ppl playing FIFA 08 or PES 2008 do it.

The scenario im talking about is teams keeping possession among the back line passing to each other.
Espcially when they are winning, or keeping a draw against a better team.

what is this shit? unsporting or playing within the rules ? OR "tactical"

as for me, if u wanna keep possession do it like arsenal here, not grouping in front of ur goalmouth



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post Jan 14 2008, 10:32 PM

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arsenal is very steady in ball bringing therfore good ball possesion biggrin.gif:D
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:33 PM

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Truly Tactical, however, the opposition could take chance by put a lot of forward up front to tackle the defenders non stop, by that, it would kill the defense if they made a mistake...
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Jan 14 2008, 10:33 PM)
Truly Tactical, however, the opposition could take chance by put a lot of forward up front to tackle the defenders non stop, by that, it would kill the defense if they made a mistake...
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by that time they already score a goal. is not like asking you to keep possession and never pass it to your team forwards..
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post Jan 14 2008, 10:44 PM

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the way arsenal playing the ball at the front is time wasting le ... dun result in anything le .. only frustrate fans watching lulz ....

playing among the backline is for defensive teams like italy .. or the old chelsea ...

some more its not unsportsmanlike .. its tactics .. like 1-0 up ... few minutes left playing at the corner flag ...
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post Jan 14 2008, 11:44 PM


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mostly this kinda of tactics used by teams that stay bottom of the table and against top teams... keep passing in their own area and do counter attack


Added on January 14, 2008, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Jan 14 2008, 10:33 PM)
Truly Tactical, however, the opposition could take chance by put a lot of forward up front to tackle the defenders non stop, by that, it would kill the defense if they made a mistake...
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will be difficult for the attacking team to get goals or attempt to shot the ball (shot on goal).. normally will be blocked...

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post Jan 14 2008, 11:50 PM

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Keeping the ball possesion among themselves can avoid them being attack by opponent teams. At the same time, they can plan or find a way to score goals. It is better than losing possesion to opponents then waste energy to chase it back. Btw it is if oni u can play possesion football like arsenal. If a team can master the possesion futball tactic, u can see they alwayz lose ball easily. They dun have understanding among their own teammates. Thats y u see arsenal rarely buying many players in one time it is hard to achieve good understanding among teammates.
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:50 PM)
Keeping the ball possesion among themselves can avoid them being attack by opponent teams. At the same time, they can plan or find a way to score goals. It is better than losing possesion to opponents then waste energy to chase it back. Btw it is if oni u can play possesion football like arsenal. If a team can master the possesion futball tactic, u can see they alwayz lose ball easily. They dun have understanding among their own teammates. Thats y u see arsenal rarely buying many players in one time it is hard to achieve good understanding among teammates.
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surely its very importance that teammates need to understanding among them... if not it will be difficult to do 1 2 passing...
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:04 AM

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its good to consider understanding between teammates but i'd say the most important thing to play possesion football is individual's own ability to hold the ball aka technical ability. they are confident and are not easily perturb when playing against players that marks vr closely.
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Rocko @ Jan 15 2008, 12:04 AM)
its good to consider understanding between teammates but i'd say the most important thing to play possesion football is individual's own ability to hold the ball aka technical ability. they are confident and are not easily perturb when playing against players that marks vr closely.
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Yeap like arsenal do. Even they play possesion futball, they dare to keep the ball under their feet eventhought the defenders play tight marking and sometimes body charge a lot. Unlike other teams that try to play possesion futbal, the simply pass the ball when defenders run into them and thus lose ball possesion + mistake which could lead to opponent scoring goals.
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:18 AM

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attacking possession football is kinda acceptable.
but passing around the backline ? doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:21 AM

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It's purely tactical but it doesn't work against good teams. And to be fair if a team is passing around the backline for long periods the fault is with the opposing team for preferring to defend deep and not do anything about it.
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Jan 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
attacking possession football is kinda acceptable.
but passing around the backline ? doh.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jan 15 2008, 12:21 AM)
It's purely tactical but it doesn't work against good teams. And to be fair if a team is passing around the backline for long periods the fault is with the opposing team for preferring to defend deep and not do anything about it.
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Hmm tats y arsenal gt player like hleb and cesc who are good in finding space to do passes and to run through. Sometimes playing a certain tactic u need certain players with suitable skills.
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:32 AM


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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Jan 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
attacking possession football is kinda acceptable.
but passing around the backline ? doh.gif
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they trying to waste the time... when leading or near end match....

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post Jan 15 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jan 15 2008, 12:32 AM)
they trying to waste the time... when leading or near end match....
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Loz not juz arsenal la but i saw a few teams also do the same thing.
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post Jan 15 2008, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(verx @ Jan 15 2008, 12:21 AM)
It's purely tactical but it doesn't work against good teams. And to be fair if a team is passing around the backline for long periods the fault is with the opposing team for preferring to defend deep and not do anything about it.
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no matter how u try to attack, and pressure their defence,
they jz can pass to the keeper
and keeper use hand again..... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Jan 15 2008, 12:39 AM)
no matter how u try to attack, and pressure their defence,
they jz can pass to the keeper
and keeper use hand again..... hmm.gif

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What?? Keeper can't use his hands if u pass it back to him. It's not that hard to put pressure and close down really. Just push the strikers and wingers further forward if they insist on passing around the backline. Either they get caught out or they'll be forced into clearing the ball. Besides if this was a real issue u would see it happen more in top level games but that's clearly not the case. There's only once I have actually seen it happened and the game involved the Malaysian national team doh.gif
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:36 AM)
Loz not juz arsenal la but i saw a few teams also do the same thing.
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i think he didnt mean arsenal, he said about the team that keep possession as passing around the backline.
this thread is about possession football not about arsenal as far as i'm concern.
Barca also play possession football nod.gif
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:36 AM)
Loz not juz arsenal la but i saw a few teams also do the same thing.
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yeah i mean almost all the team... not arse only...
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QUOTE(verx @ Jan 15 2008, 12:52 AM)
What?? Keeper can't use his hands if u pass it back to him. It's not that hard to put pressure and close down really. Just push the strikers and wingers further forward if they insist on passing around the backline. Either they get caught out or they'll be forced into clearing the ball. Besides if this was a real issue u would see it happen more in top level games but that's clearly not the case. There's only once I have actually seen it happened and the game involved the Malaysian national team doh.gif
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yeap, keeper can't use his hand for backpass.
it's a football tactical, passing around backline to make opponent to come out or to stretch them to find some space.
you dont want FIFA introduce backcourt violation or should i say backline violation in football rules, do you? laugh.gif

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