Jun 12 2008, 03:48 AM
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If at first you don't succeed, try again. Marvel seems to be under the impression that their first Hulk movie was a flop of Serenity proportions, so they've tossed everything related to it out the window and come up with something completely different for their big green superhero.
Except the first Hulk wasn't really a failure, merely somewhat disappointing. Even now, after the world seems to have turned on it, it still holds on to a middle of the road 60 percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That means more positive reviews for it than negative ones. Then there's its 2003 take at the box office. It made $245 million internationally, and only cost $137 million to make. I'd call that a tidy profit.
So why has Marvel decided to throw their muscley green baby out with the bathwater? Blame fans. Since the movie's theatrical debut that mild disappointment in a solid but ultimately mediocre film has turned into massive overreaction. The further Hulk-a-holics get from the film, the worse it seems to become. Now it's inexplicably become a punchline, a container for capturing all the worst outpouring of anger comic book nerds feel at the way Hollywood has botched a lot of their favorite properties. All that hatred they should be feeling for movies like Elektra has been funneled into Hulk. It's not hard, he's a pretty big target.
The only way out of being a bad Pollock joke for Marvel was to call their new movie a reboot, and pretend the other one never happened. Except it's not so much a reboot as a continuation with an all new cast, crew, and a completely different tone. Shh, don't tell anyone. They're much too busy burning the old movie in effigy to notice.
As it turns out, rebooting may be for the best. Whether you liked Ang Lee's version of Hulk or not, it's hard not to notice that this new Incredible Hulk kicks the other's ass in vital stats. Grab a pencil and play match up the cast. On paper, there's every reason to believe that this version of the Hulk will be even better.
Except the first Hulk wasn't really a failure, merely somewhat disappointing. Even now, after the world seems to have turned on it, it still holds on to a middle of the road 60 percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That means more positive reviews for it than negative ones. Then there's its 2003 take at the box office. It made $245 million internationally, and only cost $137 million to make. I'd call that a tidy profit.
So why has Marvel decided to throw their muscley green baby out with the bathwater? Blame fans. Since the movie's theatrical debut that mild disappointment in a solid but ultimately mediocre film has turned into massive overreaction. The further Hulk-a-holics get from the film, the worse it seems to become. Now it's inexplicably become a punchline, a container for capturing all the worst outpouring of anger comic book nerds feel at the way Hollywood has botched a lot of their favorite properties. All that hatred they should be feeling for movies like Elektra has been funneled into Hulk. It's not hard, he's a pretty big target.
The only way out of being a bad Pollock joke for Marvel was to call their new movie a reboot, and pretend the other one never happened. Except it's not so much a reboot as a continuation with an all new cast, crew, and a completely different tone. Shh, don't tell anyone. They're much too busy burning the old movie in effigy to notice.
As it turns out, rebooting may be for the best. Whether you liked Ang Lee's version of Hulk or not, it's hard not to notice that this new Incredible Hulk kicks the other's ass in vital stats. Grab a pencil and play match up the cast. On paper, there's every reason to believe that this version of the Hulk will be even better.
QUOTE(Araes @ Jun 12 2008, 01:23 AM)
I guess its official....if you want more assurance from the director watch the embed video on the site.
Cap in Hulk
...I guess we'll know in what shape or form Cap will be in the movie, today.
Cap will not be in the movie, 70 minutes are cut to pander to PG 13 and sell the dvdCap in Hulk
...I guess we'll know in what shape or form Cap will be in the movie, today.
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Marvel Studios has made no secret out of the fact that they’re angling for the broadest possible appeal with their superhero movies. When you’re trying to make your movie all things to everyone there will be, inevitably, casualties. In the case of The Incredible Hulk, it’s meant 70 minutes of casualties. As we told you in our story here, there are a full 70 minutes missing from the movie which will make it onto the DVD.
We speculated earlier that those missing 70 minutes might contain the Captain America cameo director Louis Letterier promised (watch him tease it right here). Well consider that confirmed. Speaking to the site Judao, Letterier says: “There’s a point when Bruce Banner gives up on his quest for the cure and decide to kill himself. So he travels far North and reaches the Arctic Circle. You might have seen bits of it in some of the promos.” Sounds like an interesting scene, but having watched the movie on Monday I can tell you there’s nothing even remotely like it in there anywhere. The reason for that? Louis says, “The result was a very dark and strong scene, which Marvel, me and everyone else’s considered to be too hard to young audiences to take, so we’ve cut it.” The Incredible Hulk is after all, a kids movie. It’s practically a Pixar flick, right?
Anyway, in that missing scene was Cap’s meeting with Bruce Banner. Letterier confirms, “…when Bruce arrives at his destination he meets up with Captain America!” So the cameo he’s been running around all week promising us isn’t in the movie, and it sounds like it never was. It’s on the DVD. Letterier also makes a vague promise that they’ll also have it on the internet some time this week. Of course he also told us that it would be in the movie just a few days ago, and that didn’t pan out.
So to sum up: No Captain America in The Incredible Hulk, but it’s completely safe to take your kids to see a movie about a guy who gets mad, turns green, and beats the shit out of anyone and everything around him. Marvel is all about family entertainment.
We speculated earlier that those missing 70 minutes might contain the Captain America cameo director Louis Letterier promised (watch him tease it right here). Well consider that confirmed. Speaking to the site Judao, Letterier says: “There’s a point when Bruce Banner gives up on his quest for the cure and decide to kill himself. So he travels far North and reaches the Arctic Circle. You might have seen bits of it in some of the promos.” Sounds like an interesting scene, but having watched the movie on Monday I can tell you there’s nothing even remotely like it in there anywhere. The reason for that? Louis says, “The result was a very dark and strong scene, which Marvel, me and everyone else’s considered to be too hard to young audiences to take, so we’ve cut it.” The Incredible Hulk is after all, a kids movie. It’s practically a Pixar flick, right?
Anyway, in that missing scene was Cap’s meeting with Bruce Banner. Letterier confirms, “…when Bruce arrives at his destination he meets up with Captain America!” So the cameo he’s been running around all week promising us isn’t in the movie, and it sounds like it never was. It’s on the DVD. Letterier also makes a vague promise that they’ll also have it on the internet some time this week. Of course he also told us that it would be in the movie just a few days ago, and that didn’t pan out.
So to sum up: No Captain America in The Incredible Hulk, but it’s completely safe to take your kids to see a movie about a guy who gets mad, turns green, and beats the shit out of anyone and everything around him. Marvel is all about family entertainment.
This post has been edited by Polaris: Jun 12 2008, 04:44 AM
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