Took off info of him as so far so good but not completely resolved..

Here are the details:

WHat he wrote:
yo bro,

i had about usd 200 if u want la..the rate is at 1USD = 3.2 as u want u post in your thread.

okay here is the bank info



i preffer u bank in to my account which is CIMB one.

I need to sell it fast.

so total up usd200 = rm 640.

thanks.

What happened:

I banked into his CIMB after checking his paypal account.

He even gave me a print screen of his paypal but when I received the funds it was from a credit card not his paypal account!

When I made a phone call to ask him, he immediately turned it off and I can't contact him anymore.

This post has been edited by ho_chg: Jan 18 2008, 09:31 PM

Can give us the link to the thread.If you can,lodge a police report amd thats the only thing you can do.Try to print a copy of the pm conversation between you and the conman and try to get as much detail about him before you do it.

Thanks for the warning. An expedited dispute tag has been given to e-zdy as he is an immediate risk.

Please ask him to clarify himself in this topic, thanks.

tq for the info 779364

i did pay him paypal...but he didn't accept it ...now he tell me to sell to other person i have all record and print screen i made paypal payment to him

thanks a lot 779364 for informing me about this matter i should call all person i have done transaction with no problem at all.

so what wrong here? the fund will charge on my credit card. now he should just accept the funds. the important things is the funds he getting. i will upload screenshot paypal payment to him

i dont know y this person wont accept the fund? but he want it now he dont want. what should i do? the money he bankin already been used as i stated that i sell it fast(urgent)!!
hope u guys know which one is con!!

This post has been edited by e-zdy: Jan 15 2008, 10:18 PM

Why the hell do you have HOSEA CHONG as your bank account in your topic? You're not chinese kan?

he told me to seek other ppl to buy the paypal put up his account maybank account!!!
instead of mine...please do respond more!!

weee????

Im abit confused..

ho_chg opened thread buying paypal at 3.20 rate and then selling at 3.175 or lower?

something missing?

and he even have 2 thread including this one about ppl conning him?

dont know la wackky now said i con i already send paypal fund but he dont want to accept it!!...what should i do?

Yes the fund will be charged from his credit card as USD paid to ho_chg and it will have no problem for that.
AFAIK, the paypal owner (using credit card obviously) are verified and its considered quite secure.

There's not any reason why ho_chg should reject it..


Anyway.....Wat is that something i saw about putting ho_chg account when selling paypal?
I need more explanation coz i dont understand.


And since u already used all the money, im here to offer u both a help..

Im willing to buy the USD from the seller and pay the money to ho_chg or the supposed buyer.

Ofcourse at lower rate that is

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Jan 14 2008, 11:49 PM

i have the screen shot from my paypal if this could help i post it...thanx for clarify wacky!! i dont like to be like this..
now he asked me to find another person to buy and post his maybank account or my account! but for less job i prefer put his account on my thread to just to help him selling the ammount of 200 usd and thats when y 77**** mention me about the dispute!
so now he received the paypal fund but dont want to accept is it my fault?

This post has been edited by e-zdy: Jan 14 2008, 11:52 PM

Well like i said in PM with u, he might be new to paypal and dont understand how paypal works...
Just a misunderstanding probably...

But its better if u sell your paypal and buyer bank to your account then u transfer money to ho_chg.

Else if something else happened in between your buyer and banking into ho_chg account, it will be even bigger mess..

ho_chg, what about u give few days to e-zdy to sell his paypal and then transfer RM to your account?
Few days waiting u wont lose anything coz if e-zdy wants to run, he can do it anytime...without replying in this thread

ho_chg i hope u clarify all the mess u made by tomorow!!!..i cant believe after i'm going back i rush call him to ask what happen ? now this is what i get!

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Added on January 15, 2008, 12:39 amto ADMIN please read carefully what he posted before u put someone dispute tag..

from what i read and i understand .

he made the payment to me via CIMB
i MADE the payment via PAYPAL to him which was from credit card

what i understood

he received the payment i made to him! si he doesn't lose anything

"I banked into his CIMB after checking his paypal account.

He even gave me a print screen of his paypal but when I received the funds it was from a credit card not his paypal account!

When I made a phone call to ask him, he immediately turned it off and I can't contact him anymore. (without waiting me to call back he posted this already WTF***K!!)

now as u know i want u to dispose those dispute tag as these is missunderstanding matters. i clearly stated HE received the funds!! i already told him and made the screenshot for him!!



so tell me do i still deserve this?

the reason paypal doesn't minus the balance account is because my mom already used it bought an item from ebay!!!
so when i transfer the fund it automatically minus from credit card as insuffiecient funds in my paypal account!!

so tell me do i already clarify so much?...if yes please do close this thread and put away dispute tag..

This post has been edited by e-zdy: Jan 15 2008, 10:23 PM

from what i understand, e-zdy had made payment to ho_chg. but suddenly, ho_chg does not want the paypal n need his money.so he decide to sell back. e-zdy is not a con man

pls view this http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/611896

but pls be cautious when buying with newbie. never bank in to them

This post has been edited by hibiki0104: Jan 15 2008, 12:49 AM

thanks but for the cautions why? if i'm newbie i want to sell my paypal how it will be more secure? since u said never bank in to them? how to indicate wheter person is newbie or not as for me i registered long time ago but with a few post i still get newbie! from what i understand the important thing is build up the trust..for me i have been doing many transaction with lyn member without any problem!

This has become one big convoluted mess on my part. I worked out a solution to this problem with e-zdy but I forgot about this dispute thread..I really panicked when his phone went dead and the funds were credit card funds instead.

Last time, the same thing happened to me and when I tooked action it was too late so I immediately posted after I thought this would be a con. In the past a guy used a fraud credit card and charged it to his paypal then send the funds(hairee case) and then all of the sudden all the funds reversed and my account suspended.

Anyway, told the seller that credit card funds not the same and at first i thought I should just ask him to refund the amount that paypal charged for receiving credit card but I had second thoughts cause I was afraid my account might be limited again.

So i asked him to refund and I deny the payment but he used the RM635 I sent him already. So I said I help him sell the funds and the person who bought them, banked in to me. Then later, I had a idea that better he post again to sell the funds too and just bank in the money straight to me so that can get buyer faster since both of us selling.( more sellers, can get more buyers)

I hope that explains everything. I am really sorry for this muddle as I forgot about this post after feeling so relieved after he contacted me.(Thank you for that) I just saw his message as I was about to go to bed and I immeditely came here to explain things.(it was 2.20am then)


Once again I apologize to all of you especially e-zdy...Sorry sorry sorry

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Added on January 15, 2008, 2:47 amSo sorry I could not catch that from our telephone conversation. So you actually had the USD200 BUT your mum used it so now you have to charge your mum's credit card to give me the funds..Walau..I think better you refund me cause that will HURT your mum man..

You know credit cards charge USD1=RM3.45 your mum will KILL you man..You should have told me this before you sent me the funds via paypal..save you lots of trouble and me too...I seriously could not understand you on the phone..haha should have used Malay..

Anyway, i think I better deny the payment or else you wll be at a GREAT lost man.. cause you send me USD206.XX which comes to RM700..so better you don't sell me the funds.

The reason I panicked and I thought you were lying this whole time was that you HAD USD200 in your account why suddenly become credit card...That is why I was SHOCKED AND I PANICKED..
Once Again forgive me man! Sorry

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Added on January 15, 2008, 2:53 amBTW, now that this has been almost resolved (only left me denying payment and me getting back my RM635), I think the MODS(sorry ya!) better close the sale post by me and e-zdy..In future I will resolve issues on post before using the H/P!! I can't find my sale thread so I guess its safe to assume that its been done.

This post has been edited by ho_chg: Jan 15 2008, 02:57 AM

appologize accepted bro!! however for your info the credit card i asked my mom credit card and she said she also dont know she accidently has been using mine 200 USD from the account. so i already paid the money to someone why dont u take the money and the differences ill bankin the rm just like u said earlier then, its up to u wheter u want to sell it other person or u want to used it. anyways 3.3 rate is normaly charge from credit card payment ( from what i pm with wacky)so basically i made a little loss just for urgency in need cash.

ok. I don't mind doing that but one last proof is needed. I really need to know if that is really your mum. Can you give me her contact and a bank account number with her name so that I know she is not a victim of cc fraud. Also her ebay id would be appreciated since I am a ebay member with 68 positive feedback.I want to know if she really made a USD200 ebay purchase.

bro why do u want to make this hard ? now if u want to refund then refund the paypal i refund to u? my mom angry because i put her through all this..hope u statisfied..i really disapointed wit u!!
i dont know y u feel so insecure...if i know like this will happen i wont waste my time to sell it to u beside i sell to evefan1610 (lyn member) because i msg her earlier... if only i know i will confront this mess i dont want to sell it to u

I read thread by the ho_chg posted he has been cheated by malay guy okay. now i know why he feel so insecure. so i cant simply ask u to trust me.. but if anybody here can help with this dispute plz do so.!

This post has been edited by e-zdy: Jan 15 2008, 08:17 AM

e-zdy is sms me yesterday~bcs i don have a CIMB bank account~so i don deal with him~
bcs he said he wan to make a fast deal with me~but i'm working...so i cannot go out to make this payment~
some more e-zdy already send the funds to Ho_chg...open [WTB] with 3.20rate now open another topic [WTS]??confuse...

This post has been edited by evefan1610: Jan 15 2008, 11:21 AM

Dispute tag removed from e-zdy (for the time being).