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post Jan 12 2008, 04:07 PM, updated 18y ago

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Below is the spec of my coming PC.. pls advice whether ENERMAX Tomahawk/Liberty 500W is sufficient for my gaming rig or not.. i know the more watt the better but i'm really tight on my budget and i feel that this PSU may meets the power req... No OC-ing or any mod.. all at stock speed.... smile.gif

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post Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM

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500W far far enough le
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM)
500W far far enough le
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i thought ATI 3870 512MB req quite alot of power? how bout the X2/Duo COre?
plus, i've added many fans and uv lights...
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:09 PM

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those each fans used less power nia...u no OC right? then 500W is enough
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:10 PM

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how much for this rig??


Added on January 12, 2008, 6:11 pmand where u want to buy ??
PC Fair, Lowyat ??

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Jan 12 2008, 06:10 PM)
how much for this rig??


Added on January 12, 2008, 6:11 pmand where u want to buy ??
PC Fair, Lowyat ??
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i think around RM2460 (excluding fans)
Lowyat..


Added on January 12, 2008, 6:26 pm
QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 12 2008, 06:09 PM)
those each fans used less power nia...u no OC right? then 500W is enough
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no OC.. all at stock speed..


Added on January 12, 2008, 6:26 pmi need more sifus to advice me or share their experience...

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:50 PM

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Sorry to hijack.

Lets say if a Q6600 and a 8800GTS 320MB is added into the picture. Does 500W sounds sufficient? I'm having a problem with stability which I am suspecting could be PSU related.


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500W enough le...450w also can run ATI HD2900XT le...
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post Jan 12 2008, 11:33 PM

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liberty 500w should be able to run your pc w/o problem.
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:14 AM

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I'd recommend the new Silverstone ST50F which is selling now for around rm250++ smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(stanley85 @ Jan 12 2008, 11:33 PM)
liberty 500w should be able to run your pc w/o problem.
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anyway... silverstone 560w (cheaper price) also should run your pc w/o problem.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 12 2008, 06:50 PM)
Sorry to hijack.

Lets say if a Q6600 and a 8800GTS 320MB is added into the picture. Does 500W sounds sufficient? I'm having a problem with stability which I am suspecting could be PSU related.
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Good 500W is more than good enough.450W can power SLI liao.
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:03 PM

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how about the amps req? For ATI 3870 it req at least 26A right?
But this enermax has got 22A only. How do v calculate the amps?

If v add the 2*12V rails it would be 32A. Is this the way to cal?
Below is the chart that i copied down.

+12V1 +12V2
0.5A/22A 0.5A/22A
384W(32A)
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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 12 2008, 04:07 PM)
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Below is the spec of my coming PC.. pls advice whether ENERMAX Tomahawk/Liberty 500W is sufficient for my gaming rig or not.. i know the more watt the better but i'm really tight on my budget and i feel that this PSU may meets the power req... No OC-ing or any mod.. all at stock speed.... smile.gif

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AMD64 X2 5200+/Intel DuoCore E4500
2*1GB XMS2 Corsair DDR2 800Mhz
ATI HIS 3870 512MB DDR4 (single GC only)
160 GB HDD
Gigabyte mobo
Audigy 2 ZS sound card

Accessories:
2*120mm LED fan
4*80mm LED fan
2*UV light
2*cold cathode light

Misc : DVD-rom, CD-rom, DVD-writer
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 12 2008, 06:50 PM)
Sorry to hijack.

Lets say if a Q6600 and a 8800GTS 320MB is added into the picture. Does 500W sounds sufficient? I'm having a problem with stability which I am suspecting could be PSU related.
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both of this quote, recommended 550W, especially for those fan and light, light will use more power but fan not, however, 550W is good for future upgrade, and provide more stable power.
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post Jan 13 2008, 02:07 PM

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promotion on silverstone st75zf for rm 570 try browse arround,that the best deal,it doesnt hurt to buy extra wattage for future proof..dont make a mistake buying only the power you are required...you going to upgrade sooner or later,at least you feel at ease to upgrade without ever need to worry bout wheather your power suplly can handle this???
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 13 2008, 02:07 PM)
promotion on silverstone st75zf for rm 570 try browse arround,that the best deal,it doesnt hurt to buy extra wattage for future proof..dont make a mistake buying only the power you are required...you going to upgrade sooner or later,at least you feel at ease to upgrade without ever need to worry bout wheather your power suplly can handle this???
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1st of all, i wanted to get 550W PSU rather than 500W but the brand that i trusted is only Enermax and not others. I cant find any 550W PSU from Enermax other than 600W. But 600W is over my budget. It is about RM600 while the 500W is only RM440.

Secondly, if i were to spend RM600 on a PSU that is future proof/ to ease for future upgrades, what if the PSU got burnt during these few yrs (warranty expired) then it would waste my RM600.

So what i plan now is to get the best PSU for my specs without further expanding my budget. And i think that i will not upgrade anymore in the foreseeable future (i.e 2yrs) but might just add RAMs and that's all.



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post Jan 13 2008, 02:52 PM

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Gigabyte Odin Pro All Solid 550W only Rm395 Pc Zone Price~~ heh u can get 550W in cheaper price.....Gigabyte PSU not bad mar
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 12:03 PM)
how about the amps req? For ATI 3870 it req at least 26A right?
But this enermax has got 22A only. How do v calculate the amps?

If v add the 2*12V rails it would be 32A. Is this the way to cal?
Below is the chart that i copied down.

+12V1          +12V2
0.5A/22A  0.5A/22A
          384W(32A)
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well silverstone 560w is good too. many ppl using it. either brand of enermax, gigabyte, silverstone do good job..just the pricing (value) problem and.. of course electronic thing sure will have some faulty just depends on your luck, even you buy the best brand among all.

since it wrote 384w(32A), then according to the label, it should provide max 32A on +12v rail, which means it provide more than enough for your current pc, you can use it w/o worrying.

normally you can't use 16A + 16A, but you need to take the total wattage. in this case, it show 384w / 12 = 32A. but let say others psu may wrote 16A + 16A but with total wattage of 300W, which means 300 / 12 = 25A. which is maybe a bit under power for your pc.
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Enermax? I LOL'ed.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 13 2008, 03:52 PM)
Gigabyte Odin Pro All Solid 550W only Rm395 Pc Zone Price~~ heh u can get 550W in cheaper price.....Gigabyte PSU not bad mar
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Gigabyte Odin GT user here. gigabyte psu give me a great and stable power smile.gif
But please dont count Corsair HX series PSU in. tongue.gif
That is too powerful.
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Post edited lol, didn't notice i've already posted about Enermax in this topic.

Eitherway, please, think twice and read more on Enermax before buying em.

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post Jan 13 2008, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jan 13 2008, 07:33 PM)
Gigabyte Odin GT user here. gigabyte psu give me a great and stable power smile.gif
But please dont count Corsair HX series PSU in. tongue.gif
That is too powerful.
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more powerful the better ma tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 13 2008, 07:30 PM)
Enermax? I LOL'ed.
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what's wrong with Enermax? pls let me know...


Added on January 13, 2008, 9:12 pm
QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 13 2008, 07:37 PM)
Post edited lol, didn't notice i've already posted about Enermax in this topic.

Eitherway, please, think twice and read more on Enermax before buying em.
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I've read some reviews about it and they r good comments on it...
Any prob with this PSU? pls enlighten me...

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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 09:11 PM)
what's wrong with Enermax? pls let me know...
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the latest/current enermax models has a tendency of going kaboom.

shawty himself has gone through a few (i think 3) enermax PSUs that died.

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Thought about Crosair PSU? They don't just make good ram but also good PSU as well. What attract me the most if because of 5 years warranty.
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QUOTE(kyw3 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:31 PM)
Thought about Crosair PSU? They don't just make good ram but also good PSU as well. What attract me the most if because of 5 years warranty.
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Corsair not Crosair doh.gif

yeah, Corsair PSU is good. I mean very very good.

NoOne complaining it. But for me, the price is awesome laugh.gif

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post Jan 13 2008, 09:56 PM

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so Enermax would be out of the picture huh?...
But corsair PSU is so so exp... i mean more than what i thought. about RM500 for 520W...

Hmm.... i know i can google but can anyone of you tell me more/expr about Gigabyte Odin GT 550W? I need to know the real experience rather than blindly just follow what the reviews said.

What's the diff from Pro?

Pls advice....


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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 13 2008, 09:12 PM)
the latest/current enermax models has a tendency of going kaboom.

shawty himself has gone through a few (i think 3) enermax PSUs that died.
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R u sure? Enermax is one of the best PSU manuf... That's kinda impossible... 3 PSU?

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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 10:56 PM)
so Enermax would be out of the picture huh?...
But corsair PSU is so so exp... i mean more than what i thought. about RM500 for 520W...

Hmm.... i know i can google but can anyone of you tell me more/expr about Gigabyte Odin GT 550W? I need to know the real experience rather than blindly just follow what the reviews said.

What's the diff from Pro?

Pls advice....
ok.
its very simple.
Odin GT has P-Tuner which is the utility software.
It can control the PSU fan speed, read the psu temperaure, read 4 thermal sensors temeperaure, read the Wattage usage.

While Odin Pro just like normal psu only. Cant use the software. wink.gif

But the price is different about Rm50 if not wrong.

add: the Odin GT also comes with 4 Thermal sensors which can let you place any component surface to check the temperature.

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Odin GT got software can monitor those wattage but pro don't have.
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:00 PM)
ok.
its very simple.
Odin GT has P-Tuner which is the utility software.
It can control the PSU fan speed, read the psu temperaure,  read 4 thermal sensors temeperaure, read the Wattage usage.

While Odin Pro just like normal psu only. Cant use the software. wink.gif

But the price is different about Rm50 if not wrong.

add: the Odin GT also comes with 4 Thermal sensors which can let you place any component surface to check the temperature.
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So are you using one?
Is it reliable? Will it provide stable power?
But how come this PSU is so good when gigabyte is actually manuf mostly on mobo?

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Enermax? LOLed!! I blown one after i open the psu.. luckily it din blown the mobo..
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post Jan 13 2008, 10:13 PM

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i'm using one.
nice psu.

yeah, but remember silverstone also managed to produce solid psu just after they ventured into this area. wink.gif
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yeah.. now i trusted silverstone more... i am loving silverstone
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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 09:56 PM)
R u sure? Enermax is one of the best PSU manuf... That's kinda impossible... 3 PSU?
Why not just ask me who experienced the 3 dead Enermax PSU's?

1) Enermax Liberty 500W died in 2 Months 29 days.
2) Enermax Liberty 620W died in 3 months.
3) Enermax Galaxy 1000W died in 3 and a half months.

You called that the best PSU manufacturer?
I LOL'ed.

Now i'm using Silverstone.
I got 3 in my hand.

1) Silverstone OP650 - Already 8 months and working perfectly.
2) Silverstone DA750 - Already 5 months and working perfectly.
3) Silverstone OP1000 - Already 4 & a half months and working perfectly.

None of my Silverstone PSU's ever gave me problems.
Do you still think Enermax is the best PSU manufacturer? rolleyes.gif

To me, Enermax is the worst PSU manufacturer.

Owh, should i call empire23 and tell him his side of story in here about his 3 Enermax PSU died?
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 13 2008, 10:13 PM)
i'm using one.
nice psu.

yeah, but remember silverstone also managed to produce solid psu just after they ventured into this area. wink.gif
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According to my specs, do u think Odin GT 550W has enough juice to pump my rig?

Pls tell me more about this PSU other than the S/w thingy..
Does it has sleeving like Enermax, etc...?

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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 11:30 PM)
According to my specs, do u think Odin GT 550W has enough juice to pump my rig?

Pls tell me more about this PSU other than the S/w thingy..
Does it has sleeving like Enermax, etc...?
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as i explain b4, take consideration on total wattage then divided by 12, you get the total amperage. and yeah, gigabyte odin gt 550w can power up your pc.
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As far as i know.. ATI 3870 req a PSU with at least 26A rite?

So does this Odin has 26A? I checked it only has 18A.. or do i have to total up all the rails?


Added on January 14, 2008, 10:38 pmCould anyone help me with this?


Added on January 19, 2008, 2:15 pm
QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 11:57 PM)
As far as i know.. ATI 3870 req a PSU with at least 26A rite?

So does this Odin has 26A? I checked it only has 18A.. or do i have to total up all the rails?


Added on January 14, 2008, 10:38 pmCould anyone help me with this?
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Could anyone help me with this?

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