Thats a weird things about it. I read in all forum about Garmin, 50% said it charge and 50% said it dont work/charge if using Garmin. After that I take initiative to try whole using garmin while on AGPS in the setting of my N95. At end of the month bill, there is no data charge to paid

Thats why I conclude that result. Garmin only need to subscribe to data package if we want to use Garmin Online to retrieve traffic, weather and so on.

Okay. I Find That I Need To Clarify Something Here. I Find The Bolded Statement Really Wrong. I'll Use Maxis As An Example To Explain Since I'm Using That.

First Of All, We Know That Assisted-GPS Enables Us To Get Satellite Lock Much Faster, Even With Cold Start. Basically, With A-GPS Enabled, Every Time When We Want To Get Satellite Lock, The Phone Will Use The Data Connection (Maxis 3G WAP/Maxis GPRS WAP) To Exchange Information With The Positioning Server. When There Is Data Sent And Received, It Means That We Are Charged By Maxis. For Every 1 kB That We Send And Receive, We Will Be Charged RM 0.01.



So You Said That You Took The Trouble To Conduct An Experiment And The Result Is That There Is No Data Charges When You Use Garmin Mobile XT With A-GPS Enabled. You Are Wrong.

You Might Want To Check That Is Your Assisted-GPS Enabled And Working Properly? To Do That, Go To Menu -> Tools -> Settings -> General -> Positioning -> Positioning Method -> Make Sure Assisted GPS Is Ticked. Then Go Back 1 Step And Choose Positioning Server. Make Sure That You Choose A Valid Access Point (Maxis 3G WAP For My Case Since I Have 3G Activated). To Double Confirm That The Access Point Is Valid, Go To Menu -> Web. Choose Maxis Homepage Bookmark And Select Maxis 3G WAP As Access Point. If The Site Loads, It Means The Access Point Is Valid. Otherwise, You Might Want To Reactivate 3G And Try Again Or Choose Other Access Points. Once You Have Everything In Order, The A-GPS Is Working.

We Will Do A Simple Experiment To Prove That Maxis Does Charge Us When We Are Using Garmin Mobile XT With A-GPS Enabled. Firstly, Launch GMXT. Then Press Agree. If Your Phone Is Facing The Sky, You Should Get Satellite Lock In Less Than 15 Seconds (Green Bars Indicate That You Are Locked With Satellites). Once You Have Gotten A Satellite Lock (If You Are Indoor, Wait For 15 Seconds), Quit GMXT. After That, Go To Menu -> Tools -> Log -> Press Right. You Should See "Maxis 3G WAP" There. More Details On That Entry Shows Roughly 5-6 kB Of Data Transfer. This Indicates There Was An Active Data Connection In The Background When We Are Entering GMXT. In Other Words, We Are Charged For That.

There's Only Data Transfer When You Are Attempting To Lock With Satellites (Remember We Are Using AGPS?), And Usually It Doesn't Exceed 6 kB. Once The Phone Is Locked With Satellites, There'll Be No Data Transfer After That. So If You Are Using GMXT For Tracking, Navigation Or Positioning, There Will Be No Extra Charges. It's Free.

So As A Summary:

GMXT + Without AGPS = Everything Is Free
GMXT + AGPS = Only Pay RM 0.06 For Data To Get Quicker Satellite Lock, Others Remain Free
Use Anything That Requires Data Connection = Pay

As For Garmin Online, Since It Uses Data Connection, It Means You Need To Pay For That. (At Home, I Use Wi-Fi To Retrieve The Weather Info, So Again It's Free For Me).

Have I Made Everything Clear?

Oh My goodness, I forgot to setup positioning server. After I have setup all the need, I logon into GMXT, it require 1-2 min also to locked with satellites but when I go to Logs-Data packet, there are amount that I'm using when I logon GMXT. It is cleared now. Than Bro for clearing it up.

but 1 thing for sure. use garmin to lock satellites then onli open nokia map is much much faster.
i wonder any1 use nokia map navigation

welcome to the club
for starters u may want to check out rotateme and shakeme etc



better dun flash with vista, with all those security stuff, it probably will brick ur phone



nokia maps u need to pay for a yearly fees and summore the maps are downloaded as u go

anyway, wikipedia info regarding A-GPS, its not important, but i found out that accuracy increases from >78m to <50m

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

where can i download it?
if i not mistaken, GPS need to pay to use right... is there anyway to use it for free?

www.bysamir.fr/rotateme
Software still in beta phase, u need to sign it to use it

Refer to yaosiang `s post regarding A-GPS and without A-GPS, GPS itself is free, but if u turn on A-GPS, it will uses data connection ( hence the fees ) to download information for quicker fixing

regarding faster GPS locking, i found this trick on my N95. can lock faster even without A-GPS.

1. open and hide GMXT at background.

2. call a toll free number or request credit summary etc. anything that involve calling or using network service but free-of-charge.

3. get back to GMXT, u will notice GPS locked already. working successful 9 out of 10 times on my phone.

4. dont be stingy and just pay for 6kb of data transfer via A-GPS

I Should Try This.. Sounds Interesting..

Can i know, let say i want to go to my fren house, he only provide his address only, can i only enter the address to the Garmin and let it search?

I try cannot..it ask me to enter the State 1st, but it cannot found.

What version of MSM are u using?

how to check?

Enter Garmin Mobile XT. Go To Tools -> Manage My Data ->Map Sets -> Highlight Detailed Maps And Press MapSource (Left Selection Key). Scroll Down And You Should See Malsingmaps GM-MySin v2.27. =) That's The Latest April Map At The Moment.

opps, i only got v2.15

are u contribute to get the latest 1?

2.15 Map Was Dated Last Year. You Need To Contribute Few POIs To Get The Map. Otherwise, Look For *Ahem Alternative *Ahem Solutions.

the *ahem alternative* i try b4. it wont work. do u mind share me ur *ahem* way

anyone willing to teach me how to *ahem* my gps?
wanna use it for FOC

You mean want to get ahem version of garmin? Just search how to install garmin in LYN in N82 thread written by dzi69

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Added on May 14, 2008, 9:01 pmJust contribute 2 POI, then you will get the lock code

This post has been edited by Putraskyline: May 14 2008, 09:01 PM

yup..

easily can provide 2 POI.

latest firmware really cant update with vista?
bcozi triedto update 5 times already..
my phone hang during the update..
i left it for more than an hour during each update i made..

luckily it didnt spoil the phone..