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post Feb 22 2008, 03:40 PM

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u dun normal DVD P oledi?

i still got samseng HD DVD player doing upscalling
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:22 PM

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Added on February 22, 2008, 4:22 pmdidikl

do u have DVDplayer now?

or u use PS3 ?

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post Feb 22 2008, 04:24 PM

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post Feb 22 2008, 04:25 PM

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I wan this to be in my room

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post Feb 22 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Feb 22 2008, 04:24 PM)
Samsung when did they release HD DVD player??? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:50 PM

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any ELITE plan to get this ?

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post Feb 24 2008, 04:04 PM

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today I audition-ed optomo HD 65 ................................
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post Feb 24 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 24 2008, 05:37 PM)
how? better than ur aw10?
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Added on February 24, 2008, 11:52 pmu should buy this la

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post Feb 25 2008, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Feb 24 2008, 09:40 PM)
i reckon this is because your 605 wont allow any kind of processing on PCM sources. Its like having 'pure direct' from the player. Other words your 605 just pass the signal from player to speakers.

DTS & DD get processed. thats y they sound better than unprocessed, plus they been amplified to match your settings.

go buy bitstream blu-ray player lah smile.gif BD30. all hd audio will rock ur house.
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all amp got DD or DTS DAC chip one

so when u source feed in digital source

the DAC convert it to analogue....then output ur speaker

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Added on February 25, 2008, 9:40 amsorry to say those Cinema DSP proccessing suxx when compare to same grade of Marantz & Denon

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post Feb 25 2008, 10:20 AM

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sorry sorry to all cos i m using those

but i see new HDMI range is so far beyong my affordability now

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post Feb 25 2008, 10:42 AM

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frankly speaking

why opto 70 win 65 wor?


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post Feb 25 2008, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Feb 25 2008, 11:28 AM)
yeah, all amp has those chips.

but in onkyo 605, it cant process anything on PCM sources (as output by our beloved PS3). It accept the pcm signal, and convert it to analouge (to speakers). thats it. (i think onk 705 an above can process PCM)

Thats y a lot of people going for amps that could process PCM sources. (eg yam 661 n above, n of course upcoming 663, damn!).

for example my 661: Playing TrueHD on PS3, PS3 output it as MPCM (multichannel PCM). 661 accept the signal (PCM icon lights up), i add equalizer, speaker settings, LFE crossover, bla bla, and importantly i added Prologic IIx because to matrix the MPCM sources to my 6.1 speaker settings. And walla! im watching celine dion like im in the theater! smile.gif
DD/DTS is max 1.5mbps. While PCM/TrueHD/DTS MA is exact replication of studio master. (except TrueHD/DTS MA using compression to save a heck of spaces in BDs and uncompress it back in the receiver, bitstream ofcourse)

in my opinion, technically, PCM is far more superior than legacy DD/DTS.

in my experience, definitely PCM is far more kick-ass than legacy DD/DTS.
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DD/DTS is max 1.5mbps. While PCM/TrueHD/DTS MA is exact replication of studio master. (except TrueHD/DTS MA using compression to save a heck of spaces in BDs and uncompress it back in the receiver, bitstream ofcourse)

in my opinion, technically, PCM is far more superior than legacy DD/DTS.

in my experience, definitely PCM is far more kick-ass than legacy DD/DTS.

if the PCM is not process ?? mean more worst than DD/DTS?
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post Feb 25 2008, 02:26 PM

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i told him to double check the setting on amp & PS3

but wat i belip is the PCM source is un-processed & the amp is not doing a full job
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rx....maybe ur "Speaker" not significant enuff tongue.gif

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post Feb 25 2008, 03:36 PM

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get the new B&W 600 series

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post Feb 25 2008, 10:50 PM

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anyone here using dual-sub setup

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Added on February 25, 2008, 11:22 pmRX.....ur new amp ...AVR-4308...lagi black kolur suit ur taste ler


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Added on February 25, 2008, 11:28 pmBitstream is raw digital stream. It can contain miscellaneous data types: linear PCM, DD, DTS, DTS-HD etc. The only reason you wouldn't want to use bitstream is if you're not using the player's digital audio outputs. PCM will not send Dolby Digital or DTS to the receiver even if the DVD player is compatible with those audio formats.
You can only get a "true" 5.1 uncompressed PCM via an HDMI cable. (you would need a receiver with HDMI decoding capability at the other end also of course).
If you specify uncompressed 5.1 PCM for audio playback and you are using an optical cable, you only get 2 Channel, (stereo), since it cannot carry all the bandwidth of a full 5.1 track. HDCP prevents an optical cable from delivering multichannel high definition audio...2.0 uncompressed is the best you can get. Assuming you are connected via optical cable, 2.0 uncompressed is the best you can get, which then is utilized by the Dolby 5.1 matrix, (or whatever other sound field you select), in your receiver. That is why, with an optical cable, can get normal 5.1 Dolby digital, the core mix which is much better than the standard, but it is not "true" high definition audio.


Added on February 25, 2008, 11:33 pmRX ur problem here beneath:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=842477


Bitstream vs. Linear PCM

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The title says it all..
What exactly is the difference between Bitstream vs. Linear PCM? ... the two options you have to choose from when choosing HDMI Audio Out from the settings. What exactly do I need to choose in order for the sound to come out the way it should? Does Linear PCM need to be chosen in order for PCM soundtracks from a blu-ray disc to output at its optimum?

When I play Pursuit of Happyness in 5.1 PCM (Bitstream enabled), my receiver will show that PCM is active. When I play it in 5.1 English (Bitstream enabled), my receiver will whos that Dolby Digital is active. But the 5.1 English sounds louder than the 5.1 PCM. But shouldn't that be the other way around... 5.1 PCM is uncompressed. When I play both soundtracks with Linear PCM enabled, my receiver will only show PCM active (even if I play the 5.1 English soundtrack).

Any help is appreciated.

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Added on February 25, 2008, 11:34 pmYou can think of the DD track like a .zip file on your computer and the PCM like a .wav file on your PC. The receiver can only play .wav sound (PCM) so at some point it needs to unzip (or decode) the DD track into a PCM stream in order to play it. Setting the PS3 to bitstream makes the PS3 send whatever's on the disc to the receiver, where setting to Linear PCM causes it to be converted to PCM in the player before sending to the receiver. Hence, when playing the PCM soundtrack, the receiver gets PCM regardless of the setting.

You might want to leave the setting as Bitstream so at least you know when you're accidently using the DD soundtrack because your receiver will tell you. In terms of volume, this is seperate from compression. Compression will cause the sound quality/clarity to decrease but it can still be recorded at a much higher volume to give you poor quality but very loud sound in comparison to the PCM soundtrack.

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Assuming we have an receiver capable of accepting PCM audio via HDMI, which is the 'better' way?

Should we have the PS3 decode or have the receiver decode?

Would there be a difference?

I have a PS3 and a Sony DG810. I will try to do some testing tonight or tomorrow to see what my results are and if I can tell a difference or if I have any difficulties.

I just set it to use PCM because I wanted to have access to the PCM tracks when available. Learning new stuff everyday.


Added on February 25, 2008, 11:37 pmYou'll get the multichannel PCM tracks over HDMI even when HDMI is set to bitstream on the PS3. However, you lose sounds mixed and overlayed by the PS3 (e.g., menu sounds seen in numerous BD titles currently available) when listening to DD or DTS on BDs.

With regards to legacy DD and DTS, there is no quality difference between the PCM and bitstream settings with my Denon AVR-4306. For me, setting the PS3 to decode DD or DTS results in the same quality as when letting my receiver directly handle the lossy codecs. I tested this by using numerous movie scenes that strongly engage all channels.

I have my PS3 set to PCM, because this way my Denon applies its AL24 processing regardless of what I'm listening to, and I always get sounds mixed by the PS3 itself.

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The question is really about audio output modes on the PS3, not the audio formats on the disc. The audio track on the disc is either Linear PCM or a compressed format (which can be lossy, like DD/DTS, or lossless, like DD TrueHD or DTS-MA).

If you set the PS3 to output bitstream, then it will send exactly what's on the disc without modifying it at all, and it's up to your receiver to decode whatever needs decoding. If the PS3 is set to output PCM, then it will decode compressed formats into Linear PCM and send that LPCM stream to the receiver.

When you've selected a PCM soundtrack from the disc, then the PS3 will be sending PCM to the receiver regardless of the setting. However, as mentioned above, if the PS3 is set to bitstream then it won't be able to make any changes to the audio stream, such as mixing in menu sounds.

At this point, there's really no reason to select bitstream output on the PS3 unless your receiver has problems receiving multichannel PCM via HDMI. The PS3 is perfectly capable of decoding any of the available audio formats except DTS-MA (which is currently neither decoded nor passed as bitstream), and you get the ability for it to mix in additional audio.

The BD format is really designed for the player to do audio decoding anyway; the ability to pass the HD audio formats (DD TrueHD and DTS-MA) as bitstream to the receiver, which requires HDMI 1.3, is something that was demanded by the receiver manufacturers so that they could badge their receivers as "True-HD Capable" and "DTS-MA Capable". In reality, any receiver that can receive multichannel PCM over HDMI is capable of playing these formats, as long as the player does the decoding, which is what they're designed to do.
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QUOTE(tepetlah @ Feb 25 2008, 11:50 PM)
need some comment on

1)my ps3 use component out.video comp into the LCD TV (using Bravia S series 32inch)(only 1080i displayed) and sound in to dvd player(mini home theater) or..

2)using HDMI so video and audio goes into LCD TV....

the question is..which setup is better?i was thinking is no.1..since the mini home theater can decode the audio in to surround 5.1

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Added on February 26, 2008, 8:47 am
QUOTE(apisgogo @ Feb 26 2008, 12:22 AM)
just finished watching The Game Plan.

the movie was funny! smile.gif haha.. good for family entertainment. The Rock really can crack u up. the little girl is really cute.

Awesome PQ. i give 4 stars for PQ  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Nice audio (PCM 5.1). but the sound seems quite dormant. but it really rocks your speakers when the football game scene were on. So i give the audio 4 stars  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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