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toda6866
post Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM

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cheers sang terap, u really experienced in terms of rabbit care.....but i jz wanna clarify ur assumptions though, FYI, i did go thru that 1st pg, but it said the different type of Hay 2 feed <6mths n >6mths

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a. Alfafa Hay is best for young rabbit (kit) below 6 months
b. Timothy Hay is best for rabbit above 6 months


but not how 2 limit the ratio of hay n pellets depending on age....well, end of the day, I really care bout the lil creature's health dats y I jz making sure info is complete dats all

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post Apr 3 2008, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(toda6866 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM)
cheers sang terap, u really experienced in terms of rabbit care.....but i jz wanna clarify ur assumptions though, FYI, i did go thru that 1st pg, but it said the different type of Hay 2 feed <6mths n >6mths
but not how 2 limit the ratio of hay n pellets depending on age....well, end of the day, I really care bout the lil creature's health dats y I jz making sure info is complete dats all
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hay would be unlimited applies to both young and adult.

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post Apr 3 2008, 09:38 PM

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Basically, you do not limit HAY no matter age. Hay helps with Digestion and digestion problem is the biggest problem with rabbits. Besides that, hay acts as roughage for them to chew and that keeps their teeth at the right length since the friction of the chewing motion would so called "file" the teeth.

Actually there are many more varieties of Hay to offer our bunnies. Just that only Alfafa and Timothy Hay is available in Malaysia. And that also the stock damn inconsistent. Looks like no one bothers much about rabbits. That is why we as owners have to make that push to demand frm petshops. Our rabbits deserve same treatment as Dogs and Cats.

Appreciate u taking the effort to ask and that is why I am taking time to answer your questions.

QUOTE(toda6866 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM)
cheers sang terap, u really experienced in terms of rabbit care.....but i jz wanna clarify ur assumptions though, FYI, i did go thru that 1st pg, but it said the different type of Hay 2 feed <6mths n >6mths
but not how 2 limit the ratio of hay n pellets depending on age....well, end of the day, I really care bout the lil creature's health dats y I jz making sure info is complete dats all
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post Apr 3 2008, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 3 2008, 08:43 PM)
So far, the best pellet available locally for young and adult rabbits is Sunseed Vita Plus. You can get this at Pet Lover Centre Ikano or Sunway Pyramid.
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i tried pets lover center sunway pyramid before, they dont have it ....pets safari told me that they have it in sunway, but when i go there...they dont.... doh.gif

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:39 PM

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When was this? I made them transferred some stock over to Sunway. I bought my supply from there.

As far as I know still have stock there. If not let me know. I'll ask them to bring some over again.

QUOTE(inexsis @ Apr 3 2008, 10:36 PM)
i tried pets lover center sunway pyramid before, they dont have it ....pets safari told me that they have it in sunway, but when i go there...they dont....  doh.gif
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 3 2008, 10:39 PM)
When was this? I made them transferred some stock over to Sunway. I bought my supply from there.

As far as I know still have stock there. If not let me know. I'll ask them to bring some over again.
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erm....last i check...mayb last 1-2month.....
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post Apr 4 2008, 10:55 PM

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hi guys, i've just got 2 small rabbit 2 days ago. 1 black and 1 white. i think both age around 3 months old or so. the white one has a little stain on it, and i see that rabbit behaves quite like cat whereby they will lick their paws and then wipe part of their body as dry cleaning. but then my mum went and sort of bathed the white one... and use hair dryer to dry it... well she stopped half way cos scared that the sound is too noisy, but that rabbit got scared pretty bad... then today as i got back from work.. i saw it lied there motionless by the water tray while the black one is still as active as b4. then i touched it thinking that it's sleeping but no matter what i do it still didn't respond... and then i found out that ... it died! omg... sad sad... i felt so guilty.. that poor thing, just been with us for 2 days and he died... sob sob... i'm trying to find out the root cause, i suspect probably he got sick from the washing and drying stuff that he might have gotten a fever or caught a cold.... i'm still new... hope u guys can give a pointer or two. thanks.... sad.gif
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post Apr 4 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Qool @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 PM)
hi guys, i've just got 2 small rabbit 2 days ago. 1 black and 1 white. i think both age around 3 months old or so. the white one has a little stain on it, and i see that rabbit behaves quite like cat whereby they will lick their paws and then wipe part of their body as dry cleaning. but then my mum went and sort of bathed the white one... and use hair dryer to dry it... well she stopped half way cos scared that the sound is too noisy, but that rabbit got scared pretty bad... then today as i got back from work.. i saw it lied there motionless by the water tray while the black one is still as active as b4. then i touched it thinking that it's sleeping but no matter what i do it still didn't respond... and then i found out that ... it died! omg...  sad sad... i felt so guilty.. that poor thing, just been with us for 2 days and he died... sob sob... i'm trying to find out the root cause, i suspect probably he got sick from the washing and drying stuff that he might have gotten a fever or caught a cold.... i'm still new... hope u guys can give a pointer or two. thanks....  sad.gif
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omg.........dats cry.gif i cant see but imagining a cute creature liddat, 3 mths then die........ rclxub.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 4 2008, 11:23 PM

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Most probably died of shock from the sound of the hair dryer. There is no need to bath your rabbit unnecessarily. Don't need to be fancy with them. They are generally clean creatures. U do not bath them unless they get stuck in MUD or something. Totally unnecessary. And only 3 months. Still so young. Anyhow, lesson learned and another bunny died. Just be extra careful next time.

QUOTE(Qool @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 PM)
hi guys, i've just got 2 small rabbit 2 days ago. 1 black and 1 white. i think both age around 3 months old or so. the white one has a little stain on it, and i see that rabbit behaves quite like cat whereby they will lick their paws and then wipe part of their body as dry cleaning. but then my mum went and sort of bathed the white one... and use hair dryer to dry it... well she stopped half way cos scared that the sound is too noisy, but that rabbit got scared pretty bad... then today as i got back from work.. i saw it lied there motionless by the water tray while the black one is still as active as b4. then i touched it thinking that it's sleeping but no matter what i do it still didn't respond... and then i found out that ... it died! omg...  sad sad... i felt so guilty.. that poor thing, just been with us for 2 days and he died... sob sob... i'm trying to find out the root cause, i suspect probably he got sick from the washing and drying stuff that he might have gotten a fever or caught a cold.... i'm still new... hope u guys can give a pointer or two. thanks....  sad.gif
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post Apr 5 2008, 09:37 AM

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yeah... will do. now there's 1 more black rabbit left. will take extra care for her now. thanks for all advice. smile.gif
still very very new here... first time keeping rabbit. but she eats a lot. how many times do u guys recommend i feed her? those pet shop recommend i bought er.. something like rabbit's food, it shape like pieces of small wooden stick in tiny pieces. i do feed her carrot though, wanna move onwards with more variety of vege or perhaps fruit too
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there are alot of food outside that suite rabbit.

perhaps u can try the rabbit food that sangterap suggest earlier
anyway its not recommended to bath them unless they are really dirty. young rabbits especially younger than 6 months is a big no no to bath them
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post Apr 6 2008, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(toda6866 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:07 PM)
cheers sang terap, u really experienced in terms of rabbit care.....but i jz wanna clarify ur assumptions though, FYI, i did go thru that 1st pg, but it said the different type of Hay 2 feed <6mths n >6mths
but not how 2 limit the ratio of hay n pellets depending on age....well, end of the day, I really care bout the lil creature's health dats y I jz making sure info is complete dats all
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No need to limit your 2 months old rabbit pellet and hay, give unlimited pellet and hay(afalfa mix timothy), mean filled up to full each time he finish no matter what time. The guide line for limiting on pellet is AFRAID of the rabbit get too fat, or over eating and cause obese. Young rabbit is growing, dont limit them and dont feed any fresh green till 6 months or more.
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post Apr 6 2008, 07:32 PM

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haha, seems that having the little bunny and no real time to play with it seems very cruel to me. Bought it totally on impulse.
Anyway, just wondering would anyone of you like to adopt her instead? she's black color, and just around 3 - 4 months old. Anyone whose interested can PM me for CoD around penang island area. (price = free)
just sad to see the poor thing lying inside the cage all by herself.
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post Apr 6 2008, 07:49 PM

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Qool,

Baby rabbits below 6 months should not be given vegetables. And especially NOT carrots whether young or adult rabbit. Carrot contains too much starch. Bugs Bunny eating lotsa carrots is a MYTH. By right, rabbits do not thrive on carrots. Carrots should only be given in small amount as threats.

Feed your baby rabbit lotsa alfafa hay and good pellets all day will do.
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 6 2008, 07:49 PM)
Qool,

Baby rabbits below 6 months should not be given vegetables. And especially NOT carrots whether young or adult rabbit. Carrot contains too much starch. Bugs Bunny eating lotsa carrots is a MYTH. By right, rabbits do not thrive on carrots. Carrots should only be given in small amount as threats.

Feed your baby rabbit lotsa alfafa hay and good pellets all day will do.
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thanks a lot Sangterap... will feed him the pet food the pet store recommended. Anyway, back to topic... really hope some bunny lover would consider to adopt this little bunny of mine... smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2008, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Apr 2 2008, 10:25 AM)
What show? Normally when you talk about show, it should be like the dog/cat shows we have here. But to think on another level, dog/cat shows involve dogs/cats with pedigree and that means all are purebreds. So, you can just ask yourself, do you normally see pure bred rabbits around? The answer is sadly no.

There are so many breeds of rabbits recognize by rabbit clubs overseas but most of the rabbits we have here are locally mixed variety. How nice it would be if there are people who start specializing in each of those breeds. Then we can start having show.

At the moment we are ready to have shows only for fancy judgments because there are no standard conformations to look out for. Things like best dressed rabbit or rabbits that can do tricks are just some of the things we can "award" a rabbit for. As far as whether the rabbit achieve certain standards laid down like ear placements, type and overall body structure, fur quality and many other official standards cannot be taken into consideration.

I know many people just love their pets as they are and I respect that. But I really hope that more take the initiatives to work on purebreds so that we can truly bring the variety of rabbits in our country to a higher level. And what saddens me the most is when mix breedings are done. There is no consideration for quality/standard and what is being contributed in the long run in mind. I could accept that you get sub-standard quality to begin and slowly work towards a certain quality. But sadly, most are "buta" breedings.

That is just my 2 cents. No intention to offend. IMHO it would be good for bunny future in Malaysia. And I am not asking you to discard your rabbits now and work on a breed. Normal rabbits make great pets too but just to strike some awareness so that instead of creating more pet quality, we should strive to add more show quality pets in our country. With that, more people will come to appreciate keeping rabbits as pets and in the long run, pet shops would be force to cater for our needs. If you notice now, the market is filled with lousy rabbit food and etc. When will our rabbit community start enjoying good stuff? They deserve better treatments than cats and dogs if not treated the same way.
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100% agree with what you said. I've been to several pets exhibition or pets show, sometimes it really annoys me when what you see in these events are majority dogs, cats and aquatic business then a really really minority of other pets, like rabbits, chinchillas, sugar gliders and ferrets. For other exotic pets, can't really be blamed cos they are quite pricey at a certain standard. But rabbits are really much more cheaper and easier to take care. Although I have a few mixed breed rabbits myself, but I do hope that the quality and standard of pure breed rabbits can be increased in Malaysia. Like dogs and cats, the quality of rabbits could be measured based on their appearance, structure, fur etc. However, there's no such organization to do so, like MKA for dogs.

As for now, i think only Beh has pure breed netherland dwarfs and holland lops as he had imported them and I can fully trust him if he says those are pure breeds. As for the rest, like in pets store, no offense, but i don't really trust them to be pure breeds. I can only see a breed name and a high price, but i don't really see a pure breed rabbit. Can you believe this? I've seen a huge rabbit (almost like Rex size) yet it states dwarf. Maybe it's mixed or something, but it doesn't state there.

As we have a bunch of rabbit lovers in this thread, maybe we could get together and form a group or something to help the situation? brows.gif

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post Apr 6 2008, 10:36 PM

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yes we should. As you have already mentioned most people own mix breeds and how can we incorporate that into our so called club? Can we start something that goes Mixed Breed Pedigrees? Actually, even in the US people are developing new breeds. The way I see it, the local mix breeds here are quite unique and do look a lot different from those in the western countries. Maybe we should have a breed call the Malaysian Special Edition with many varieties. Even for a particular breed, there are always many varieties. Like Netherland Dwarfs have otter, orange, silver marten, chinchilla and so on. So even The Malaysian Special Edition would have all these varieties.

Have to think about this....
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post Apr 7 2008, 03:19 AM

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With the different conditions in Malaysia, like hot weather and high humidity, I suspect quality of even pure breeds in Malaysia would be different with those in western countries, especially their fur coats. If we could really standardize a certain breed that could only be bred in Malaysia, maybe we've got something here... But if it's possible, i think it's better if we start from those that are pure breed first. First we have to see what kind of differences are there if we compare a pure breed that were bred in Malaysia with ones in western countries. If there are any differences, we could start from there i suppose rolleyes.gif. for this, i think Beh could help out rclxms.gif
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Here in Malaysia id rather have a short haired rabbit due to the conditions, weather, and its easy to take care of em (dun need to cut, trim, etc...). Another thing a two bout the female long haired rabbit, in the end they'll shave their fur till they become like the short haired rabbit especially when they want to give birth (beranak).. so..
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QUOTE(Qool @ Apr 5 2008, 09:37 AM)
yeah... will do. now there's 1 more black rabbit left. will take extra care for her now. thanks for all advice. smile.gif
still very very new here... first time keeping rabbit. but she eats a lot. how many times do u guys recommend i feed her? those pet shop recommend i bought er.. something like rabbit's food, it shape like pieces of small wooden stick in tiny pieces. i do feed her carrot though, wanna move onwards with more variety of vege or perhaps fruit too
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Your rabbit is still new and young. i suggest i quickly buy another rabbit to replace the dead one. Rabbits can be territorial when they get older. It would be hard to introduce a friend in the same cage when it gets to 6months (fighting is a problem). and believe me, 2 rabbits is better than 1. They simply love the company of another of their kind.



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