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ks3114
post Apr 30 2009, 06:54 PM

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I know Maybank Online Trading will deduct RM2.50 from each dividend u get as their service charge.
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post May 1 2009, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 1 2009, 03:08 AM)
Can anyone share with me on Dividend Counters?
I understand that counter like BJTOTO, TANJONG, TM, GENTING, PBBANK and many more pay out dividend...

How does dividend work?
How do they pay out?
How long we need to hold the share before we are consider qualified for the dividend pay out?
I only trade penny share and i have no idea on this kinda big counters..
A little advice would be great!!
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To keep track of which counters are dividend, u can check KLSE website here or if you want to research on the historical distributions, go to The Star Online here. You need to hold their shares until their 'Ex-Date' as shown in their announcement. (Note the 'Payment Date' too, not all companies pay right after their ex-date. Some even pay after 2+ months)

Again, like others have mentioned there are sooo many dividend stocks. It's really up to ur investment strategies ie. what is your target return p.a? How much risk you're willing to take? After you have set your investment goals, we can help you narrow down the good stocks.
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post May 1 2009, 05:40 PM

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If i had only 4k, i wouldnt buy such expensive shares like BJTOTO.
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post May 2 2009, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ May 2 2009, 02:23 PM)
You prefer penny stocks with higher beta values?
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If my goal was just to get dividend, no. If i'm not mistaken, sustainable high dividend stocks are usually stable, they dont fluctuate much in relation to the overall market.

If im a speculator, yes Id go for volatile penny stocks.

Since virtualgay mentioned his goal was sustainable dividends, and I'd suggest not buying into only one counter. The reasons are:

1) Diversify, in case something happen to that company. In the case of BJTOTO, Govt may inc taxes, or some states may ban number forecasting thereby some risks there.

2) he mentioned "I am not aiming high.. just enough for me to cover my montly expenses will do...". Buying into 1 counter will pay dividends quarterly/half yearly. But if u really need some cashflow on monthly basis, u can plan(rough estimate) the dividend payout periods accordingly.


I'm still new in this investing field. All the sifus please correct me if im wrong. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(elhh82 @ May 2 2009, 02:59 PM)
That is not the right way to determine if a share is expensive or not. Other values like EPS etc are the right gauge of how expensive a share is.

Most of the "cheap" shares are priced low because,

1. the company is worth very little, or has very little potential (sometimes they are undervalued of course)
2. the company has many shares listed, so when you buy 1 share, you are buying only a very very small piece of the cake.

Many companies like to exploit this incorrect assumption on the side of investors to boost their trading volume. They keep splitting their share over and over and over, so the shares are "cheap".

Think about this, would you buy 1 whole cake at RM10 or will you buy one slice of cake (whole cake cut into 10) for RM1.5? Which one is cheaper?
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Sry about making a very vague statement there about 'expensive'. I did not mean 'over-valued', but more like 'high price' in the sense that the no. of shares you own will be low and its harder to diversify.

I agree with you, companies split shares just to make their share more 'speculation-friendly', similar to wats goin on in KLSE now. Imagine Genting at rm40, resorts at rm23, knm at rm2 - I would think they wont be speculated that much.

Btw, I usually judge the value of a share by P/E and if Im not mistaken that how research houses value shares too. Correct me if im wrong.

To me,
PE around 10, price is normal.
PE at 20 or above, expensive.

Again, all this depends on many factors like the industry it is in, whether its a speculated stock, its fundamentals.


This post has been edited by ks3114: May 2 2009, 05:34 PM
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post May 4 2009, 12:16 AM

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Got a question here about dividends and taxes for REIT.

Withholding tax will be deducted for distributions made to the following categories of unitholders:
Resident non-corporate - 10%

From what I understand, REIT's income are tax-free? But they withhold 10% of the distribution? (I can check from the dividend pay-out slip, but I'm overseas and they sent the slips back home)

Are all REITs single tiered yet?

Thanks.

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post May 5 2009, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(kongps82 @ May 4 2009, 10:11 PM)
What does the ex for the ex. date means?
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Its like the cut-off date for the dividends.

Eg. if ex-date is 5th May, people that hold the shares before the ex-date (5th May) will be entitled for the dividend.
Meaning if u own the share on 4th May - You get dividend.
On 5th May - No dividend.

Hope its clear enough. Correct me if im wrong.
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post May 6 2009, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ May 5 2009, 10:36 PM)
Thanks for the info, where can I get such info?
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KLSE Company Announcements. It is under 'Notice of Book Closure'
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post May 12 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(masterjedi @ May 11 2009, 10:53 PM)
first thanks for reply.

but which one the system will match the 1000 unit of 1.70 or 1000 unit of 1.75?  im big confius. or system will make an avarage price for 2000 unit at the diffrent date and macthe it with the selling price 1.82 and 1000 unit?
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The system will only record that u have bought 2000 units and there is a balance of 2000 units in ur CDS account. So when u sell, all they do is deduct 1000 units and pay you for the 1000 units u sold (which is at 1.82).

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