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SKY 1809
post Nov 25 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Nov 25 2008, 05:13 PM)
Remember to pass some to me tongue.gif
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OT.

You bought a lot of Citi shares yesterday.

You have been eyeing on Citi for quite some time hmm.gif

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post Dec 29 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 20 2008, 09:29 PM)
Normally i make my stock pick up payment via check or cash sometimes (if the amount is few thousands).

Today is my first time i use interbank transfer from my CIMB to my brokerage Hwang DBS (RHB).

Any one got do this before? Any risk?

It will be easier for me next time as i no need to go bank to open cheque and easier.

All sifus there pls share you experience on interbank fund transfer for your stock pick up.
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Correct me if I am wrong.

CIMB charges RM 2 for the fund transfer and the max amount could be limited to RM 5,000.00

I am using Public Bank to pay Broker under bills which does not charge. On top of that, could be higher limit than RM 5,000 ( I did pay more than RM5k before in one single payment ).

Online payments to me are safe, and I am the frequent user to pay bills, credit cards and do bank transfers. Lot of time saved , and finding the car parkings at banks almost put me off. On top of that, pay bills in time and better cashflow planning..

Good Luck.

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post Jan 6 2009, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 6 2009, 09:35 PM)
add on, contra gain takes 3 working days to clear.
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To add one more,

For beginners, do not always think of contra gains . biggrin.gif

Correct me if I am wrong.

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SKY 1809
post Apr 14 2009, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 14 2009, 11:31 AM)
if positive comment like buy, then sell price.
if negative comment like sell, then buy price. tongue.gif
more or less, because the thing keep changing...
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Very confusing . Sounds like MBA lecturer hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 14 2009, 12:02 PM)
Haha... sometime things mean to be confusing...
If brokerage initiate a buy call with a tp of $5, it means fair value is at $5 and the current market price is under value. So they advice customer to buy at current price (e.g. $3), when the price reach $5 and no fresh information that appear, then customer should consider to sell because that's fully valued (customer can choose to keep also, they have to make the decision). and vice versa to sell call. I also don't know am I interpret it correctly or not... haha...
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Sometimes, when brokers issue calls to buy, i just wait for 6 months or so, to buy at cheaper prices.

I find it safer that way.

Just my own DIY method.

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post Apr 14 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 14 2009, 01:04 PM)
Hehe... their valuation also based on model one, I just take as reference, I never believe them... haha...
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A lot of things in this world are basing on mere assumptions.

Even in accounting, it always assumes the co should be able to operate on Going Concern Basis, the rests are true.

But if the Governments worldwide do not support, then there is a big question mark over the problem of " going concern"

But if the fact that certain reports help you to make money, why not take the advantage of them ?

The brokers pay these analysts highly, there must a reason for it. biggrin.gif



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post Apr 14 2009, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Apr 14 2009, 01:30 PM)
just wondering how we check what shares we have in our CDS acc? besides calling our broker.. any other way to check?
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My trading system has all my shares porfolio under the "portfolio management " button or something sounds like that.

Normally You need to sign a form to agree and pass back to the broker.


Added on April 14, 2009, 1:36 pm
QUOTE(htt @ Apr 14 2009, 01:30 PM)
I think only top brokerage have highly rated analyst (I took reference from them). Some small one only hire kucing kurau... read already also don't know want to laugh or want to cry... just personal opinion only, no means to offend anyone...
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I guess you are making good money from Singapore share trading.

KL people is lacking knowledge on this area.

Perhaps you can start a thread to teach us. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Apr 14 2009, 01:50 PM)
what if i hv more than one broker? then how do i check the shares in my CDS acc? is there any other way besides the portfolio management from broker?
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The CDS acc is always tied to your trading account with that broker only.

It is like using internet banking , no way to using CIMB system to do Maybank transactions.

Partly for security purpose.

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post Aug 7 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 7 2009, 12:01 PM)
That's what I believed when I was in secondary school, time passed, thing changed... (and that's almost 99% wrong tongue.gif ).

can.
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That is why those holding Master or whatever in Investing are not guaranteed to be Billionaires.

Could stand a higher chance than the rest.

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post Aug 7 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 7 2009, 01:00 PM)
Because human behavior is the hardest thing to predict... tongue.gif
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Investing is all about Fear and Hope.

Even External Auditor's report carries some missing words " Hoping that the company would be able to operate on going concern basis ***", thereafter, auditors would be able to get constant yearly fees. They treat their clients kinda " long term Investments" also.

Some investors are hoping dividends come forever.

Not the wrong way also.

*** duty of auditors to say so, if foresee companies not able to operate on Going Concern Basis.

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post Dec 10 2009, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Dec 10 2009, 06:38 AM)
thanks for the explanation

another question i see from this site: http://www.tuneprofit.com/stock-basic/diff...ominee-account/

CLIENTS COLLATERAL TRADING – NOMINEE nominee account
1) CDS (stock) is held under company’s name
2) Not entitle to apply for IPO
3) Entitle for dividend but not any voucher issue by company
4) No Annual Report received

annual report im not concern since i can check it online and i'll be saving trees but the main thing is not entitle to voucher issue is major concern for me

does it mean im losing out in something? im concern becos im using maybank2u and i think its a nominee ac. pls clarify. tqtq  notworthy.gif
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Some companies such as Genting , Resort World ( Genting M ) , and maybe YTL give Vouchers or coupons for you to enjoy their facilities.

You are not entitled for that.

Some said they approach Maybank and still getting them ( I heard it quite a long time ago ).

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post Dec 11 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Dec 11 2009, 07:41 AM)
notworthy.gif  I learned something  thumbup.gif

Since I have CDS account open with Jupiter, mine is CDS account right?  They wont put to nominee..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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You can call Jupiter Help Desk to find out more " firsthand " info yourself., or any issues you need to clarify.


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post Mar 26 2010, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 26 2010, 02:33 AM)
Private placements means issuing new shares for private investors. Whenever new shares are issued whether by private placement, rights/warrant issue etc. the profit distributed among the shares will be lesser per share.

More people means smaller slice of pie for everyone.
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It depends.

Private placements could mean, the companies are still in the expansion path, hence need more funds to be injected into the companies, meaning the business or profit is still growing at least proportionally or rapidly.

At the end of the day, EPS on enlarged basis is still maintained or growing.

Axreit and RCECap are just two examples of using private placements to expand their businesses.

There is nothing to be alarmed of with such a company.

Meaning, the original intention of a private placement could be more appropriately used for business expansions.

You still need to filter out the good ones from the bad ones ( that could have misused the funds for other objectives )

So an analysis has to be carried by an investor before investing .

That, we call Investing per se.

Good luck.

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post May 7 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(kokanchai @ May 6 2010, 06:00 PM)
hey guys, i am new here

i feel that i am interested to learn about stock market investment

by i am noob about this

where do i started learn from?

are they any short courses can i take part of it?

or are they any good book to recommend me
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I remember Security Commission does organise some Courses from time to time.

Some are basic and some are for passing the exams .

Does have Investment Talks either in house from from third parties .

Nice and relaxing facilities, and cheap foods too ( from their Canteen )

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post Jan 15 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 14 2011, 08:11 PM)
in our trading platforms 1 lot = 100 units , so yeah 100 lots = 10000 units.

but, in conversation, most (older) ppl still refer to 1 lot as 1000 units, because the change was recent .. i think it was in 07.
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Investing is not like other professional sports , where young ages tend to have more energy to sustain.

Investing is more like in a state of the mind, while lot and lot of data are being kept , bigger capacity than a super computer.

And then comes the interpretation process whether to invest or not to invest.

And at of the end of it, there is no guarantee for success.

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post Jan 15 2011, 03:47 PM

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Haha, anything to do with US is always good.

But investors are shifting to Asia leh.

Let them ( US ) turning into a big casino if they really want to.

Feel good factor is everywhere.

BTW: HFT was defeated by humans when it short sell stocks to pennies. A trap set up by the humans to con HFT. HFT is not something so great as I first thought.

I believe most Malaysians do not have the intelligence of HFT to sell a blue chip for one sen ( If Bursa allows ) , but future versions could be more intelligence . Nothing is impoosible.

Neverlah if you have total trust in them.

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post Jan 15 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 15 2011, 10:32 PM)
(older) people are more seasoned.
nothing beats that. notworthy.gif
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That is the beauty of investing in Malaysia, not liking to have HFT for the next 10 years.

After that, do expect HFT version 10 in town. biggrin.gif

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post May 11 2011, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 11 2011, 12:30 AM)
If so that is very good.. sometime back it have to be on request basis.
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It could be a mistake for not automatically consolidating into one transaction.

No request is needed to be made in the first place in current situation or many years back.

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post May 14 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Larrylow @ May 14 2011, 10:48 AM)
Got a newbie question here,

Let say a stock price is trading at 1.2x, but its NTA is 3.5x, does that mean this stock is undervalue?

If the management plans to take this company private, will they pay a premium to the current shareholders?

Thanks for your enlightenment!
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NTA is simple form of fair value to me ( in a very conservative manner ) . For banks, Price to Book value is always use.

For lazy people like me, when NTA is easily given, I would assume NTA as the book value ( lazy man way ). Plse do not follow me on this shortcut.

The takeover of banks could be in the region of 1.5x Price to book value. So it is about ( 1.5x3.5) rm 5.25. To privatize a bank, that is the fair value to do so.

Just some very rough guidelines, for instance some people may want to buy your unlisted company ,then you might want not to sell below rm 3.50, as the buyer is ready with a list of complicated formula to suppress your price. They could have bought over your badly run competitor at rm 1.20, so they say this is the market price for you.

The other thing is the earning power of the co such EPS and PE. A losing co with good NTA may start to erode the assets, sometimes the loss would wipe out the NTA in a year. Good NTA backed with good EPS is a better choice.

There are many complicated ways to value a company too. SOP for example. RNav is another. DCF. bla bla bla

But I like to keep It AS Simple as possible. Cashflow is important too, and many investors could have left out on this part.

Regards.

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post Nov 13 2011, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jt2020 @ Nov 11 2011, 04:26 PM)
Hi, if I wan to know which stock are in which sector specifically, where can I search for it?

I only know a stock for health sector is kpj, but if I want to know all the stocks for health sector, or maybe more specific, which stock belongs to hospitals, which stock belongs to drug companies, which stock belongs to medical equipments, etc. where should I refer?

I am using ecm and kpj is under service, where service is very wide,,,
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Well, if you have a trading module with some brokers, their systems are linked to EquitiesTracker.com where you can access these info for free, by clicking one of the buttons. For Jupiter , it is the " Fundamental " button, then look for " Industry " .

Beside sectors, you would get some comparisons of PE and so on.

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