Jan 11 2008, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 11 2008, 05:29 PM)
Even though kickoff may be early, it's on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. I know you work every other Saturday afternoon mate but the majority of us don't. Have no idea if it's the same there. Good point though.
I think most of them not working on Saturday even for builders. I have no idea why the atmosphere seems a bit 'dead'. My view is as you all said, it's the commercialism of the game which affect it. Remember the UCL finals in Athens, the breakdown of the ticket allowance is a farce. For easier explanation, back then the ticket allocation was divided into 3 portion. Milan & Reds each got about 25k while the remaining 20-25k seats are mainly reserves for corporate sponsors, competition winners, tourist, etc. This allocation is frankly inadequate considering that the 2 teams fills their stadium of at least 40k week in week out. It sort of marginalise those locals/hardcore as RTK mention.
Put it this way, how many of us though extremely proud/hardcore/loyal/passionate fans can really afford for a trip there? Even some of the scousers complain about prices back then.
Another thing is, the tickets of matches grew spiraling. As we know, soccer club is more associates to blue-collar workers. So how much can they afford in view of ever escalating ticket price? Hence as RTK puts it, the locals are sort of being marginalize in favor of tourist/corporate fans who really can never relates to being in sync with the culture of supporting their club (even if they are hardcore).
Added on January 11, 2008, 5:51 pm
QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 11 2008, 05:42 PM)
I'd think that football is ill. At least in Malaysia. Why? Not because of the much mentioned fact that our national team is nothing but a glorified pub team but the fact that football fans have lost touch with what is truly great about 'supporting' a team.
In my office there's three general types of footie fans (which with some generalisation can be applied to the general populace):
i) The true hardcore fans with nothing better to do - usually the minority
ii) The gambling fans - knows quite a bit about form and with soccernet's life scores stickied on the desktop. they support the team who wins them the most money...
iii) The casual fans - or what i would call the Championship Manager or Football Manager generation. People who know all the statistics and all the obscure players who have no inkling on what really makes a good player or a team tick. People who do not think nor care much about a club's history - everything and everyone is a statistic.
I've not included the lalangs even though they are often the loudest and most brash - i'm more concerned with the group that view watching footie as more than a pass time or a fad. One of my biggest regrets is that i myself is 'kaki bangku' hence i believe i cannot appreciate the finer points of football, but HOW MANY OF TODAY"S FOOTBALL FANS HAVE ACTUALLY EVEN ATTENDED A FOOTBALL MATCH IN A REAL LIFE STADIUM? Football (or more accurately the EPL) has more followers than ever, but for me the 'understanding' of the game is sadly being lost.
The fact that we are the only three old farts posting here (as mentioned by Duke) only proves my point.
Ok. Rant over.
Me no 4 In my office there's three general types of footie fans (which with some generalisation can be applied to the general populace):
i) The true hardcore fans with nothing better to do - usually the minority
ii) The gambling fans - knows quite a bit about form and with soccernet's life scores stickied on the desktop. they support the team who wins them the most money...
iii) The casual fans - or what i would call the Championship Manager or Football Manager generation. People who know all the statistics and all the obscure players who have no inkling on what really makes a good player or a team tick. People who do not think nor care much about a club's history - everything and everyone is a statistic.
I've not included the lalangs even though they are often the loudest and most brash - i'm more concerned with the group that view watching footie as more than a pass time or a fad. One of my biggest regrets is that i myself is 'kaki bangku' hence i believe i cannot appreciate the finer points of football, but HOW MANY OF TODAY"S FOOTBALL FANS HAVE ACTUALLY EVEN ATTENDED A FOOTBALL MATCH IN A REAL LIFE STADIUM? Football (or more accurately the EPL) has more followers than ever, but for me the 'understanding' of the game is sadly being lost.
The fact that we are the only three old farts posting here (as mentioned by Duke) only proves my point.
Ok. Rant over.
This post has been edited by vreis: Jan 11 2008, 05:51 PM
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