QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 11 2008, 08:14 PM)
Well football did begin as a blue collared sport and I don't necessarily think you have to be poor or uneducated to be loud and noisy. During MyRAWK viewings, you get a whole bunch of people shouting obscenities, loudly urging the team on. There is also this hardcore dude who is a millionaire (he's even produced a movie in India!) and he's really really loud. Another is a cigar smoking lawyer and went to court right after drinking all night and morning after we won the UCL in 2005. He went home, took a shower and headed straight for court. Immediately after, he went to Borneo Ink to get his arm tattooed! LoL. I was there the day after and Eddie (the tattoo artist) asked if I knew this drunk Liverpool fan that walked in the day before. What I'm trying to say is, they come in all shapes, sizes and forms
Well you are lucky to have met that many well off football fans but where was Keane coming from with the 'prawn sandwich brigade.' It was directed at the corporate class people who just came about for the hospitality and the experience. Besides, what do rich people have to be 'angry' about? From what you and I would have read, football is for the people who work at factories who watch a game of football to 'destress' and channel their frustrations.
Anyhow, I read an
article which said:
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.....it has sold out its core working-class supporters in a rush to embrace "middle England"-is a charge commonly levelled at football. The young home-owning professionals with company cars and share portfolios are as coveted by New Labour as by the new breed of football club chairmen, for whom they represent the ideal modern fan: well-behaved and sufficiently wealthy to afford a �500 season ticket, each of three different �40 replica club shirts and the annual subscription to Sky Sports.
It goes on at different parts of that VERY VERY LONG article to suggest that working class fans who indeed make more noise are a rarity at football stadiums thanks to the increasing prices of tickets. Mind you, that article was written before 2000.
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 11 2008, 08:14 PM)
I see where you're coming from but to me, it's more than just entertainment. Do I like it if my team makes watching grass grow seem like watching a blockbuster movie? Of course not. Will I come back again the following week?
That would be a definite yes. Heck it's the same reason I watched Liverpool play each week under Houllier even though it was like watching paint dry. Ok, you may say it's different because I don't have to pay to watch it on telly. Well firstly, I invest time. I could be doing something more interesting elsewhere. Secondly a ticket at Anfield costs around the region of $30 - $35 if I remember correctly. That may come up to RM 200 + but if you're living there, you don't convert so it's like us paying RM35, not that much if you ask me.
You are assuming that you have unlimited amounts of money. And face it Duke, if you did, chances are you'd buy Anfield and make it your bedroom. Most people would only be able to afford to watch one game every couple of months. Save money -> Old Trafford->Repeat. Even if you forget about the conversion rate, what about the waiting list for some of the top stadiums. Plus, modern day fans think like consumers; if product United doesn't provide value and satisfaction, I can opt for product Arsenal.
From what I read at United forums, some say that those ticket holders buy those tickets to sell it at a very high price to the tons of people outside the stadium, esp. tourists (mostly Asians) and will only go and watch the game if they can't sell it off. Tells you about what they think towards the football club.
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 11 2008, 08:14 PM)
You are assuming of course that making noise means taunting the opposition. How about songs that are pro your club? It's not uncommon to hear songs like YNWA, Ring Of Fire, The Best midfield in the World, Steven Gerrard's chant to the tune of "que sera sera", Carra's chant to the tune of "yellow submarine" and such at Anfield, or even M Bar for that matter
Making noise back here may be limited to taunting and jeering the opposition but mainly because fans don't learn the songs of their clubs.
Study? Dude, how old are you??? I thought you were a working adult!
I have fun chanting songs that are pro-United like Take Me Home, Giggs Winning Nine Times, Nemanja Will Murda Ya but it's human nature to laugh at other people's misfortunes. [Where did comedy come from?!]
So I am sure you'd concur that during a United-Liverpool game, you'd have choice chants for us Devils
I'm only 19 lah. Same age as Monstar, no?
Added on January 11, 2008, 9:08 pmQUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 11 2008, 08:26 PM)
Then I'm nuts then. I bloody enjoy it as well. Certainly make my watching experience a hell lot more fun.
Was on a family holiday. Being a kid back at Disneyland and the likes. Haha.
Live alone? Midnight how to chant? Parents asleep
This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Jan 11 2008, 09:16 PM 
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