thanks, viper is the one contributing the most clips.
still can find lots in malaysia, but must go away from developed areas

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Added on October 22, 2008, 7:08 pmthanks, i remember when i was small i wanted to write a book about catching fighting spiders. My fren and I did write a book about spiders in general though during primary school for a class project. But now the web is the best... can show clips.

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Added on October 22, 2008, 7:09 pmYeah, Phiddipus has a lot of fans. They are traded in some places in the states. Not planning to get one?

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Added on October 22, 2008, 7:16 pmcool video. the male kena chop by the female.

I have since let go Berserk and Nightmare back to their original place after keeping them for 2 weeks. They leapt happily away. They are not fierce fighters, prefering to avoid each other.

Now I'm still keeping the Bavia trio, a couple of female fs and a Hyllus semicurpeous.



This post has been edited by mindstorm: Oct 22 2008, 07:16 PM

Big male?

Here's my DIY jumper sactuary. Took me several weeks of ad hoc planning and thinking to make in my spare time. It's a combination of many materials and widgets. The whole back of this cage is fine netting(also 3/4 of the top), so the inside is well-ventilated.


With several openings so I can put live feed in without having to open the main door lest insects inside fly out when they are plentiful.

There is a small blank ant colony inside, and also breeding fruit flies. So I don't bother feeding the spideys inside.
I am still waiting for it to mature so that the money plant which i planted at the back can grow up onto the bamboo support i placed and fill up the top part of the cage. The base is a strong plastic tub filled with black soil for a sturdy base. Hence i don't move it around, although it is light enough(but still pretty heavy) to be carried alone should i wish to.

Here is one of the female staying in a rather peculiar nest. Between the flower of the fern and one of the fern's leaf.


Because the jagged flower cone is sandwiched in between the white single petal and the leaf, the female used it as one of her walls.

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Added on October 27, 2008, 1:43 amHeh, guess we're sorta taking a break.

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Added on October 27, 2008, 1:51 amSomeone nickedname alexnsally messaged me in youtube couple of days back
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spider fighting
hi bro,i saw the videos u posted in youtube. that was cool...me n a group of frens was spiders lover too...we picked up tis hobbies again after seeing the videos...well we got a few good size spiders waiting for challenge. just for fun anyway...haha

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Glad to see this hobby now and then being relived and enjoyed.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Oct 27 2008, 01:51 AM

still got one...


Some pics of my hyllus, i caught it in a park near where i stay.




It was cute. I realized hyllus make good pets for several reasons.
1. It is not fussy about its environment and would easily make nest between a couple of small leafs. My hyllus looks very comfortable in its environment and doesn't seem to want to try and "escape". It would just stay still for long periods of time on the wall of a container and look around slowly waiting for prey. When it is full it hides in its very private nest. When it is hungry it slowly scout around.
2. It is great fun to watch it hunt. Slow and steady.
3. Hyllus can be real gluttons. Before it moulted, it took up to 7 small crickets continuously. I didnt expect it to finish off every cricket one after another. I placed them there for reserves so that it could eat them over a couple of days but it ate every single one of them until it was fat.
Here she is eating one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZIa5QcdDY4
Moulted on the 20/10/08... she looks more serious now

Wah, Hyllus moulted again! After the last moult at 20/10/08, it ate a whole bunch of crickets, got fat and then went into building a tight nest. She then started to stay inside the nest for great length of time.. i thot she was laying unfertilized eggs. Today, i saw her came out, and much bigger! That's a short span of 13 days in between 2 moults. Below u can see 2 of her "tengkorak"(skull)...
She measures slightly less than 12mm, she's longer than the male spider bandar!


I'm having loads of self-bred crickets, this is only a small number of the total population...

Hyllus seems to do very well on crickets alone. She ate another sizable one today. But those Bavias don't seem to want to eat the same food day in day out. If i just keep feeding them one type of feed(crickets, roaches or fruit flies) eventually they just stop eating until i change their diet.
I think i'll have to find some time to look for a boyfriend for Hyllus.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Nov 4 2008, 12:21 AM

Couldn't resist taking some pics of my Hyllus. Her eyes has a green tinge to them when light is reflected.


She has these couple of long thingy at the tip of her abdomen which she wriggles whenever she secure some web to the surface she is on.

She's a bit pinkish around the base of her legs area.

Guess what she's strecthing to peer at? My computer screen!


I'm naming her Glutty for she is a glutton. The reason i named her is because i found another one today by accident! I was just walking to my car after work and saw another female Hyllus on a lilly leave under a tree in the parking lot.
She got the slippery symptom where she cannot cling onto the plastic surface. So i put a cut root for her to cling to in her container. She hasn't eaten yet. She seems scared of the crickets i gave her. I name here Dazzy cuz she's rather dazed.


Here she is compared to Glutty. Much smaller.

Opps there she goes... another sizable cricket down

Woohoo, CNY 2009 is here. Happy Chinese New Year to everyone!

My friend, Dan came back from the states and of cuz by tradition, we will take at least one day to go spidey hunting!
Today, on the second day of CNY, that's what we did.

Before it becomes an anti-climax, I must say that this time round there aren't any superb clips to be shown. In total my friend got 12 males and I got 7 males for the day-end battle. Most of the fights were short push and at most single chops with several no-shows(kecut). By now, we know that generally this is can be expected of newly caught spideys. For fs to display the tenacious behaviour seen in many of Viper's clips, one will have to keep and train the fs for some time through repeated battles.

We went 3 destinations today in chronological order. LG(2 hours plus in the morning), AM(half hour, didn't plan to go there but was passing by after having lunch at SOGO and decided to drop by for a quick look) and LO(an hour plus).

Dan got 8 from LG, 4 from AM and 0 from LO.
I got 3 from LG, 1 from AM and 1 from LO. I also had 2 imports from Negeri Sembilan, Port Dickson.

In the end, one of Dan's AM male emerged as winner, being also the largest, against the single male I found from LO. It was the last fight of the day. The winner looked dazed and slow b4 the fight, and frequently missed seeing his opponent on stage. But when he finally did, he displayed an awesome stance and showed off his wide wing span which was no match for his opponent. With a short push, he emerged victorious over 19 males. I didn't managed to get any close-ups shots of this new first king because it was getting really dark by then. I'll meet up with Dan before he flys back to US and try to get some good shots.

All in all, Dan kept his king and another 2 because of their size. (He havent given them any meaningful names yet). While I also kept 3 of my best. The third one was kecut but it had size, and I reckon it is still immature. With several weeks of good feeding and sparring, he could become a fearsome contender.

The Stats:-
Total: 17 fights
9 short push(including the last fight-1st and 2nd king)
1 long push
4 no shows
3 single chops

Some photos
1)First Destination - LG

Oops, where did it go?



Me catching spiders without damaging the plants.
Orchids, suprisingly make a haven for fs.


Dan's a careful catcher, positioning himself at proper angles to assess the worthiness of his potential catch and its surrounding environment before deciding on a move or strategy.


Dan, "Got one male"
Half minute later, "Another one"
2 minutes later, "Another one"
I was dumbfounded.
Dan was quickly maxed out on his containers. So he started culling his catch on the spot by putting caught ones in the nest of new ones to see which one wins and then he takes the winners. He only does this for small ones, big ones of cuz will be assessed back home.


A last minute encounter, with just a split second glance, Dan knows it is a "must" catch... a sizable one.
And he was right.


According to Dan, this was the type of leaf where Bighead was found.

Dan, "We have caught enough"
Me, "We have more than enough".


Unloading at noon. "How many did you catch? 3?"

"Nope, 12". Gasp. Spideys on my dashboard. A sizable one.

2)Second Unplanned Destination

Dan was surprised at the number of males and ease of catching for this small strip of land

3) Third Destination

Only one male from here. Turned out to be my first king. But lost to Dan's first king.

Back at Dan's home.

Spideys on the boot.


Spideys size comparison and categorizing in preparation for the end of day battle.

Some odd photos.

A female "transparent" spider feeding off another similar species.
(which i thot is the same species but immature one?)


A lost skink.


This is how best to scan for fs... viewing leaves against the sunlight.


Monkey invasion at a bus stop.


Wild action. A young eating a black ant.

A day's activity. A great CNY day.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 29 2009, 02:51 PM

I think so. I will try to get some close-up shots on it later.

Nice... any good fights?

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Added on February 4, 2009, 2:37 amHi, chand. U're most welcome to this forum. Who introduced u to fighting spiders?
Have u caught any yet?

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 4 2009, 02:37 AM

Dan went back to the states yesterday. The day before he left, we went for a short spider hunt. He got 3 males but lost the biggest one because the net on the container was torn and the spider somehow escape from the pouch where he placed his container. I got none. Dan still proved he is better catcher than i am. The 2 new ones he caught was still no match for the his first king and my first king we caught earlier.


A large Wong ma ma's(kerenga) nest.


A "kerenga"-eating spider.


A small Bavia with eggs

Back at Dan's garden
Dan's first king. (What shall u call it man? Still no name)




Fight!!!(With my first king) Shouldn't be hard to guess which is Dan's first king!
Mine ran without even chopping.



Fighting Dan's first king with a male Hantu kuning!
Hantu kuning dare not fight, seeing how Dan's first king showing off his Mantis Martial Arts!!

Odd pics

What is this weevil doing in ur garden, man?


The nest with eggs which u left on an orb web, Dan.
(On his last day in m'sia, Dan had to save many fs nests from a tree in his garden which fell and would probably be burnt by his mum. How lucky the fs are!! Hooray for Dan!)

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 4 2009, 03:15 AM

Haha! WELCOME here! Seems u found my hideout...

Nice to know u enjoy such a long lost hobby too, which thanks to internet, is no longer lost.

Cheers!

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Added on February 5, 2009, 3:07 amWoohoo! u got big one too! I'll call u next wk, this wk stocktake so too busy. Make sure u keep ur king till then!

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Added on February 5, 2009, 3:10 amwaloa eh...so u are fish1401!! i and viper were trying to contact u because we saw ur forum in fishingkaki. That was such a long long time ago! Welcome man! We are the fanatics!!

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 5 2009, 03:10 AM

Wah... that last pic is astonishing man...the size difference btw the predator and the prey.

Ur Hyllus is a semicupreus, same like the one centaurfly showed us last time
http://centaurfly.blogspot.com/2008/08/min...emicupreus.html
and same like mine too. I see Drag0nette updated her blog with a new Diardi now which name sounds like her favourite one that passed on.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:37 amyeah...maybe u can go back to Archilles place!

3 only. The first king given by Dan is quite old already.

Got a few...but nothing compared to ur videos u made last time.
I got time i will load some of the more interesting ones bit by bit.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:39 amyeah man.

Here's a clip on them!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaO4-rA5orE
... made it back in Oct last year. They weren't big ones. Got them in a park near by house.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:42 amWah say eh... where u get a chop so fast?? Can fight with my 2nd king.

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:43 amU didnt change since ur fishingkaki forum huh? U also posted a pic showing ur firstking then eating another male....

But i like...very nice close up. Wat camera u using?

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Added on February 9, 2009, 2:45 amAiyoyo...
That type of container u using very dangerous...hard to open and hard to close... as u are closing, the spider may run to the side and try to slide its arms to escape in between the base and the cover... and "kiaaappp".... become no arm bandit...

Wah...u so fast got kaki? Who are these kaki? Do they know got this fs forum? Ask them come share their fs and fs fight here la... i like to see them.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 9 2009, 02:50 AM

u keep the small fs to fight la.

i no longer trying to breed FS cuz lack of suitable garden. They are almost impossible to breed in captive as i have written many of the problems.

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Added on February 10, 2009, 6:09 pmNice setup man! Wah...ur hyllus moult so fast! Hyllus seems to have no problems adapting to captivity and seems to grow quite fast if u feed it well.

Well, no one has yet explore fully the other species of Thiania... but by logic, since Bhamoensis is the most wide spread one, I guess Bhamoensis must be the most adaptable one and maybe the better fighter among the all others species, hence securing more nest to live in and propagate.

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Added on February 10, 2009, 6:11 pmHere's a shocker. U won't fight a similar clip else where so far...
A Telamonia laying eggs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miDRteDMfQU

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 10 2009, 06:11 PM

wah, nice nice, so many stuff to see and read.
i've been away cuz my wife just gave birth(on the 16th)! So busy with new born baby.

Dan, ur first king has died. Here i lay it side by side with the legend-Big Head(the one with only one arm). Haha! Bet other forumers never thot i would still be keeping Big Head's carapace!


So which is bigger?

Here is where i was keeping Bighead all along, in a small pill container. Dan was one surprised dude when i showed it to him, hehe.


Still keeping my first king, the one caught from lookout point. Maturing nicely. Eating mostly ants.


My second spider which i am also keeping.(Dan, this is the sizable but kecut one...wonder wheather it has matured enuf to fight now)


This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 20 2009, 01:56 AM

i dont think it is suicide la...just that when fs dies, it will dry up which causes its forelegs to bend inwards pointing towards its mid torax or mouth.

Uploaded Xonan vs Hades but actually the other 3 clips i already uploaded as

14seconds
Celltel vs Riper (30July2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nz0AxjR2xM

Other good fights(less than 10 seconds)
Riper vs Unknown Rd2 (15July2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uC0XePQ6OQ

12seconds
Oneteeth vs Hope (17May2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05u-6BHbjk

I uploaded again under the heading which u said for the first and second ones but the last one(Oneteeth vs Hope) is already there.


This post has been edited by mindstorm: Mar 15 2009, 02:35 AM

Wah, which part of malaysia are u from? If u got big ones, u're lucky man. Not easy to find.

Wear rubber boots and spray with Baigon la... leech won't dare to climb up. One experienced fishing kaki told me.
Or like me, i use a mosquito repellent called Off... i smear on my shoes... leech won't climb. Or if manage to climb, i jst smear some on it, sure drop.

Lastik also can ah? For me, easiest way to catch flies is use a transparent plastic bag.. slowly, very slowly put over a standing fly. 99% sure catch. Then after that just take off one wing and throw to spider.

Great to have you here man. Now Viper and me have another kaki near us where we can set up fights.

Nice story u have there. Looks like chop is quite ubiquitous. I didn't know can let spider fight with mirror. I know they will react but i don't remember letting a fs engage with a mirror. ur fs must be damn fierce like fighting fish if can attack mirror too.

I'm sure cheras which is quite an old place have lots of area to catch. If u daring like viper, can go people's backyard to find also, haha! I not so daring, but daring enuf to go dangerous places.

Remember, if can, show us ur fs fights with clips or photo also la. If no record, once a great fight is fought, it can only be enjoyed by whoever is there at that time and will be gone forever.

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Added on March 15, 2009, 2:39 amWah... long fight leh...29 seconds with a 2-3 second break. Will go down in records(page 1).
The small chop vs big one also very crazy fight.
Nice man.

Been busy lately. Nice to see so many posts.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Mar 15 2009, 02:39 AM

haha..very interesting fight. i guess i forgot about it. Definately worth the hall of fame.

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Added on April 3, 2009, 2:26 amhaha!! i found ur recent hideout...
http://www.fishingkaki.com/forum/viewtopic...der=asc&start=0
Great revival of ur tread, man! Been busy with many other stuff in my life recently(baby, work, projects etc). Decided to google a bit on spiders just now and found ur tread. I loved the stories told by ur fishing kakis. Imagine what an impact fighting spiders had on kids(or even teenages or adults) during the past before computer were invented. I especially liked the one from BigTom and his 3 ferocious battles with his brother! Wonderful of u to started that tread. Also shows how fs was such a craze in Singapore once upon a time.

i tried logging into the forum with a pass ID but somehow cannot go in. Same thing as last time, tried to go in to contact u but also cannot, dunno why. That's why viper eventually pm u.

Anyway, i just wanted to say hi and also thank u for ur referral here.
Also, on fs, i don't think "females" change to males. Those that do are actually males to start with. Just before the last moult, their pedipalps(where they store sperm) are actually much bigger than that of females. Just that before the last moult, their face is not white, hence morphologically looking like a female.... but in strict biological sense, they are actually males.

Ur one arm blue is definately the most awesome one arm bandit ever seen!

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Added on April 3, 2009, 2:52 amHaha, Dan(mangrovejumper), check this out man... i know this is something u wouldn't allow...haha!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4LJ5eJgkjQ&feature=related

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Apr 3 2009, 02:52 AM

Wah u are really coming out with very good fight clips! One of these days when i free, i will link up the good ones in the hall of fame too. Many of them definately deserves to be there.

I also plan to group together all the links about fs(stories, other forums, photos) that are scattered all over this tread and put it in front page for easy reference.

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Added on April 24, 2009, 2:02 amI liked the clips u took of hyllus. Is she bigger now?

Guess wat, i am still keeping one of the male fs we caught in Jan(the kecut big one, but eventually won ur first king)! I released him onto my plant in my porch i think for 2 weeks already, and he is still staying in the same mansion nest, eating ants as they passed along. I will get a snapshot of it tomorrow. he is 3 months old now.

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Added on April 24, 2009, 2:06 amwat happened to ur fs, all released?

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Added on April 24, 2009, 2:08 amsure got one. wah, if u can find fs in mount kinabalu, sure to be different body pattern one. be sure to show us photo if u get one.

spiders in ulu may or may not be stronger or bigger.

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Added on April 24, 2009, 2:20 amWah, if u read through this tread, then confirm u are also another hardcore fs kaki like us. How come u suddenly decided to google fighting spiders leh??

thanks for the praise. Anyway, i went to ur tread to which u started in arofanatics and left a comment there. Great man, u are again making the interest come back again in Singapore. don't forget video clip if fight, once good fight fought, will be gone forever if no clip.
For the benefit of other readers here.
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368934

Anyway, interesting to know now got a TV series in Singapore called "Fighting Spiders"!
http://fightingspiders.mediacorptv.sg/about.htm
But of course it is more on people la...but i think sure got some parts depicting school boys playing with fighting spiders. I saw some parts in youtube but didn't really see any parts showing any REAL fighting spiders. Did u follow the series, got any part showing REAL fs fighting ah?? I also wonder who is the director, script writer and how their inspiration for such a drama come about. I think it is from a book...cuz i know of a book that is written by Singorean also got mention about fighting spiders being an influence to boys in olden times. Do you know?

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Apr 24 2009, 02:50 AM