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TSwei
post Jan 8 2008, 10:31 PM, updated 18y ago

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Yes yes, the long wait is over. Finally a full revision for Mac Pro.

Head over to the Mac Pro page to check it out!
Official page
Press release

Here's some update I notice:
- Processor option: single 2.8GHz processor, two 2.8Ghz, two 3.0Ghz, or two 3.2Ghz.
- Bus speeb bump from 1.33Ghz to 1.6Ghz.
- RAM module from 667Mhz FB-DIMM to 800Mhz FB-DIMM.
- Graphic crard from stock 7300GT to HD 2600XT, BTO X1900XT to 8800GT.
- Other noticeable changes, Bluetooth now standard, PCI Express 2.0 & reverse mounting for memory rise card A.
- Stock config is: 2x Quad 2.8Ghz (8x 2.8Ghz), 2GB of RAM, 320GB HDD, ATI HD 2600XT 256MB dual dual-link DVI.

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kiasunkiasi
post Jan 8 2008, 10:35 PM

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Do we really need so many cores?
TSwei
post Jan 8 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Jan 8 2008, 10:35 PM)
Do we really need so many cores?
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Clearly, it's not for everyone.
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:41 PM

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finally...!! after 6 months of acquiring my beast.... way better than my iMac G5 when they made the jump to Intel.... sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:42 PM

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i'm not sure when i'm gonna buy Mac Pro with full specs.
nando
post Jan 8 2008, 10:42 PM

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Finally!!!!!!!!! finally!!!!
the previous model starts at RM8999....i wonder what is the $ range of this new series will be?
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:44 PM

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Next target, 16 cores anyone...? brows.gif drool.gif

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TSwei
post Jan 8 2008, 10:45 PM

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Previous model is USD2499 if I'm not mistaken. The new one is USD2799.
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:48 PM

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wow..lagi mahal...
If not mistaken, Imacs, MacbookPro replacements were either cheaper or same price but higher specs than the previous generations..
maybe due to this is premium product?

Also, does the price of MacPro drops after a certain period of post launching?
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:53 PM

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Not that I aware. That's why I deicided a Mac Pro is a good buy. Less revision, less price drop. The 1st gen lasted for almost 1.5 year without major revision.
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(wei @ Jan 8 2008, 10:53 PM)
Not that I aware. That's why I deicided a Mac Pro is a good buy. Less revision, less price drop. The 1st gen lasted for almost 1.5 year without major revision.
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betul juga...so you're going for one?

hmm, under processing, got
8-core: Two 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz, or 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processors

and a

Quad-core: One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processor

Looks like the 2799 is for the 8-core 2 2.8Ghz.....? wonder what is the Quad Core doing there?

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post Jan 8 2008, 10:57 PM

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what i see is an active cooling for the stock graphics, which translate to more noise....?

xeon procs should be cooler by now, since it's on a 45nm engraving.... but a slightly faster memory modules translates to higher heat output.... sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2008, 11:01 PM

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hmm..

the previous model, 2 x 2.66Ghz dual core is RM9999

this current new line up has a 1 x 2.8 Quad core...

any comments on performance wise hmm.gif ?

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 8 2008, 11:01 PM)
hmm..

the previous model, 2 x 2.66Ghz dual core is RM9999

this current new line up has a 1 x 2.8 Quad core...

any comments on performance wise hmm.gif ?
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i thought it's a 2 x 2.8 Quad core standard....?

1 x 2.8 is a CTO model.... sweat.gif but it's still way faster than the older stock 2 x 2.66 Dual Core....
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post Jan 8 2008, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 8 2008, 10:56 PM)
betul juga...so you're going for one?

hmm, under processing, got
8-core: Two 2.8GHz, 3.0GHz, or 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processors

and a

Quad-core: One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5400 series processor

Looks like the 2799 is for the 8-core 2 2.8Ghz.....? wonder what is the Quad Core doing there?
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That's the lowest end model, replacing the Quad 2.0 model.

Me? Nah, my 2.66 still doing very well. As I said when I bought it, I hope I wont need to update my workstation for 3-5yrs. Somemore it's not a small purchase. All sweat and blood money there.

Might get a PC 8800GT and flash it for my Mac when the time is right. Going to dual dual-link DVI biggrin.gif

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Yes, it's single proc. But it's a single proc with Quad-core inside. So its 1x4 or 2x4.

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jan 8 2008, 11:05 PM)
i thought it's a 2 x 2.8 Quad core standard....?

1 x 2.8 is a CTO model....  sweat.gif  but it's still way faster than the older stock 2 x 2.66 Dual Core....
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i thought so too ..but cuba see http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html..
there is a 2.8 1x

err...care to explain in layman how 1x2.8 is way faster than 2 x 2.66 dual core?
thanks
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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 8 2008, 11:08 PM)
i thought so too ..but cuba see http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html..
there is a 2.8 1x

err...care to explain in layman how 1x2.8 is way faster than 2 x 2.66 dual core?
thanks
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layman's term....? hmm.gif hmm.gif

Quad 2.66 against a true Quad 2.8.... in terms of gigahertz...

and the new Penryn Harpertown comes with SSE4 instructions... so if apps are optimised for it.... brows.gif

layman enough....? tongue.gif

spare me the technicalities please.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Jan 8 2008, 11:11 PM

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here's why
1x4 @ 2.8GHz vs 2x2 @ 2.66Ghz
1.6GHz Bus speed vs 1.33Ghz Bus speed
800MHz RAM vs 667MHz RAM

bare number already winning, but have to see how well the OS & apps work with multi-cores.
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post Jan 8 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jan 8 2008, 11:10 PM)
layman's term....? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Quad 2.66 against a true Quad 2.8.... in terms of gigahertz...

and the new Penryn Harpertown comes with SSE4 instructions... so if apps are optimised for it.... brows.gif

layman enough....? tongue.gif

spare me the technicalities please....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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okay..the phrases `apps optimised for it'
AND

`bare number already winning'

won me over..heheheh..

hoping that the price of US2799 is not for the 1x2.8 quad model. hehehe

apple store down so cannot do `mock' buying..hehehe

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TSwei
post Jan 8 2008, 11:17 PM

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Yeah, the store still down, I wonder how much the top model cost now whistling.gif
Was at RM28K before.

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