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 Dec 5 2007, 12:44 AM
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Wait tonite DJIA down 100points then tomorrow sure got bargain...
Added on December 5, 2007, 12:46 am QUOTE(aichiban @ Dec 4 2007, 09:08 PM) i took it @3.64 God bless you...it sort of cover all my other losses  edit : not sure it will go to 5 but im targeting to exit @ between 4.44 to 4.54 depending on the changes  IMO, Proton is another Perwaja in the making... This post has been edited by kapitan: Dec 5 2007, 12:46 AM |
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Dec 5 2007, 09:08 AM
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I tried is 5mins... the fact is that there;s lag issue when trading online...
Besides you aint the only one queueing for selling/buying... unless your buy price is higher than ppl willing to sell or selling price lower than ppl willing to buy... |
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Dec 5 2007, 09:35 AM
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Pana stock all going up....
Dataprep cheong... |
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Dec 5 2007, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(tsarena @ Dec 5 2007, 03:22 PM) Hopefully Yalor... too bad sold off all my HSI yesterday...  I really wonder why HSI-C3 suddenly so active... When I bought at 0.23 wasnt moving at all... now all sold and less than 3 days, up 5cents... LOL... and to think that I bought 50,000 units that time... that would be 2.5k... You guys should buy what I sold.... |
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Dec 5 2007, 03:35 PM
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Yalor...
But HSI-C2 should be more attractive cos its cheap and exercise at 30870 level... HSI-C3 still some way to go at 31xxx. However due to the complex calculation, I still not sure how to calculate HSI-C2 and C3 but I think its at negative. |
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Dec 5 2007, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 5 2007, 03:38 PM) kapitan, so you are not picking up anything today? Lately I busy with work... So I din have time to monitor... Besides those HK CW all got >5% premium except PetroChina C1, Sinopec C1, CNOOC-C1, ShenHua-C1, CheungK-C1. |
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Dec 5 2007, 04:18 PM
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Today market not bad la...
The increase is very wide spread... Although counters like KNM, LCL, BURSA, SIME, push KLCI up a lot, but still smaller one also got increase. Anyway, I think I will take a rest... too high liao... |
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Dec 5 2007, 04:53 PM
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Bubbles going to burst....
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Dec 5 2007, 11:55 PM
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IMO, since I also bought IOICORP, I think if one really calculate, I think it already exceed the 32x PE when the price is at 7.50 and above.. hence it drop to 7.10-7.30 which didnt hold out for long. I sold mine long ago after realising its too damn bloated.
In HK, you probably get shares (mainly China related shares) that are trading beyond 40x PE and yet they still prosper. But then again, with China trying to cool the economy and reduce the trade deficit, who knows what might happened. Just a matter of fact, my company usually bought around RM20~30M steel materials from China yearly but this year has been reduced not in amount but quantity. China has already taken a drastic step to cool its export by cutting off rebates and imposing export tax to curb them from exporting too much. Products from China (using steel as reference) has increase almost 30% (used to enjoy 7% rebate, but now thats taken off, and slapped with a 15% export tax which will be increased to 20% early next year). Shares like Sinopec, Cheung Kong, CNOOC, PetroChina (surprise, surprise, but it has since drop to a more realistic ~20x PE level) are few of the decent of trading off 20x PE. Shares like ICBC, Shen Hua, ChMoly (China Molybdenum), China Mobile, and China Life are trading with a PE exceeding 40x. Of course China has a big market and its impossible to have a forecast for their future expansion but with China intervention to cool down its economy, I think its wise to practice precaution when buying HKCW. Added on December 5, 2007, 11:59 pm QUOTE(beginner @ Dec 5 2007, 11:51 PM) pana is watching over you and everyone of us here... becareful. I think will be quite stable till Chrismas. very long time no see continuous green so many days dee, hope this rally continue till chinese new year.  )Next year will be hard to say cos as subprime figures will be released along with rates cut again, who knows what might happen. This post has been edited by kapitan: Dec 5 2007, 11:59 PM |
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Dec 6 2007, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 09:09 AM) phew. so lucky i am.. Yesterday bought 300lots of HSBC-c1 at 0.015, now soldd all already.. earn almost 3k... Daring.. |
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Dec 6 2007, 10:02 AM
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How much u bought?
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Dec 6 2007, 03:59 PM
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IOICORP back to 7.15, fast fast sell....
I dont think will stay there for long... |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 03:54 PM) HK HSBC up quite alot, no wonder hsbc-c1 surge this morning. anyone still holding hsbc-c1 ? HSBC premium is how much? |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 04:19 PM) i m in the Q of hsbc-c1 at 0.015 for 2000lots,, but stil couldn;t get it Buy so much waited for hours already  Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying.... |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:38 PM
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Today I bought HSI-C1...
Seem like whenever I buy this one it will curse it... Bought @ 1.28, even till now still got negative premium yet no movement... even when HSI approach 30K it gives little away... I think investor are more interested in the smaller sized HSI C2 n C3. Added on December 6, 2007, 4:41 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 6 2007, 04:35 PM) Out of money, going to expire this month. I know la... but at 2000lots (2million unit) thats massive...HSBC is HKD 133.60, exercise price should be around HKD 152 something, if not mistaken. Judge you own. Added on December 6, 2007, 4:36 pm Actually not much, it is just RM0.015 after all. Even with 300lots, he make Rm3k... 2000 lots means 20k profit or loss if +/- 1 cent... if thats not great then what is This post has been edited by kapitan: Dec 6 2007, 04:41 PM |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 04:42 PM) u bought at the highest price of today. too bad. People like me will only go for SHI c2 and C3, as it is cheaper, i can buy more and "Up/Down 1cent also u feel like dying...." Its ok... calculated...Based on HSI closing, its worth 1.25 at least... Its like that... when C2 and C3 hot, C1 will be abandon... But I like it... cos at least got value... |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:42 PM) you are funny guy la seriously My total loss to date is RM1.9k.... I allocated RM3k so RM1.1k left... See if HSI-C1 will loot all my saving or give me something back tomorrow... Added on December 6, 2007, 4:48 pm QUOTE(alivecmh @ Dec 6 2007, 04:46 PM) DJ future coming down now at +27 only compare this afternoon 57+. better let go all my share c watch the thunderstorm coming. What la u...Added on December 6, 2007, 4:47 pmsigh,, hsbc-c1 back to 0.02.. still in the Q at 0.015 Thunderstorm coming and you are still queueing for what... This post has been edited by kapitan: Dec 6 2007, 04:48 PM |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:51 PM
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Bought Sinopec-C1 and PetroChina-C1....
Negative premium... see whats up tomorrow... Signing off... |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:50 PM) @kapitan Negative premium lor...you said you bought HSI-C1 at 1.28, that is the highest price for today and it has come down to 1.20 now That day also same when I made RM200++... Im prepared la this time... Worse come worse loss the balance RM1.1k nia... Then save again lar... will be back next year... |
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Dec 6 2007, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:53 PM) if market were to tumble on tomorrow Hmm... yalor...i am sure SINOPEC will be the first one to kena kao kao afterall it has been going up from 0.2x to 0.3x sigh sigh But then again, with negative premium, I think drop also 1-2cent nia... I only got 5lots... Added on December 6, 2007, 4:55 pm QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:53 PM) if market were to tumble on tomorrow CNOOC lagi keng le...i am sure SINOPEC will be the first one to kena kao kao afterall it has been going up from 0.2x to 0.3x sigh sigh This post has been edited by kapitan: Dec 6 2007, 04:55 PM |
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